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    Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

    Ok whats your thoughts on Black History Month?

    Personally I feel that it should be done away with, there shouldnt be one. Ok Ok here me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain races history? I feel that it does no good, only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

    History is history, it is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

    I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
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    Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

    Ok what's your thoughts on Black History Month?

    Personally, I feel that it should be done away with; there shouldn't be one. Ok Ok hear me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain race's history? I feel that it does no good; only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

    History is history. It is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

    I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

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    i agree

    I think its better to learn from the past but not live in it, its only seperating whites from blacks even more and acknowledging it.

    if there's gonna be a month for something it should be world history month, as cheesy as that sounds. but something that acknowledges us together as one people's history rather then segregating like we did 40 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    History is history, it is color blind.

    Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.

    We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C22H19N3O4
    Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.

    We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.
    maybe in kindergarten when you learn about pilgrims and native americans sitting down being one big peaceful family lol

    any more advanced class gives you a multi faceted perception
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    maybe in kindergarten when you learn about pilgrims and native americans sitting down being one big peaceful family lol

    any more advanced class gives you a multi faceted perception
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    Quote Originally Posted by C22H19N3O4
    There are no words to describe the extent of your stupidity.
    Come back when you get your GED or finish your stint at community college.
    FSU is a community college?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
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    Quote Originally Posted by C22H19N3O4
    Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.
    you missed what i meant by color blind

    i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race

    We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.
    refer to my last comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    you missed what i meant by color blind

    i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race


    refer to my last comment

    so true

    even whites should be apart of the whole thing to remind us not to be the same assholes that we were before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race
    It's tangible history if the information is made available to us. Are you telling me that you learned about Asian and Latino influences on American history when you were in grades k-12? The information is limited and needs to be supplemented. One of the reasons I stand behind a college education.


    *Note: Yes, I know the topic is about BHM, but it should encompass all minorities, including women. BTW, BHM is also intended for young Black Americans who have forgotten where they've come from and where they are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C22H19N3O4
    It's tangible history if the information is made available to us. Are you telling me that you learned about Asian and Latino influences on American history when you were in grades k-12? The information is limited and needs to be supplemented. One of the reasons I stand behind a college education.
    you're twisting my whole purpose around buddy

    i dont mean HISTORY that we are taught i mean THE ACTUAL HISTORY (aka what happened in the past) you obviously have some gripe with the state school system, thats neither here nor there in this thread.

    if you want to vent about that then make a thread. this is about how there should/should not be seperate ethnic history months


    *Note: Yes, I know the topic is about BHM, but it should encompass all minorities, including women. BTW, BHM is also intended for young Black Americans who have forgotten where they've come from and where they are going.
    it basically does encompass all minority's hence the point of me making this thread.

    please go re-read what i posted, because it seems you are missing my ENTIRE point of this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    please go re-read what i posted, because it seems you are missing my ENTIRE point of this thread
    You need to learn how to relay your question properly. This is not the first time we've had this problem.


    You propose that BHM be eliminated, but that is irresponsible when the current K-12 curriculum creates a distorted view of American history. How hard is that to understand?

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    Black history month was started back when blacks were treated less than human. Carter G. Woodson started Black history month in 1926, and he did it to show Blacks/Whites (mainly Black youths) what accomplishments blacks had made here in America. For many years it was only celebrated by blacks, it has only become widely celebrated in the last 20-30 years. The month doesn't preach hate for another race and it doesn’t show the supremacy of one race.

    I honestly don't see the problem with the month. The month affects no one and everybody I know that actually pays attention to the month; usually learn something new (including me). I would like to know more about other races too and I don't see a problem with Asian, Spanish, White history month. Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race. If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites. If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race.
    you white people? generalize much?
    If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites.
    ignorance is bliss i guess...
    If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month
    but what happens if i have a comma splice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    you white people? generalize much?
    , its much easier to group ppl
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    ignorance is bliss i guess...


    Sorry for my bad grammer. Sometimes I forget that I am on a car forum. I really don't care to agrue about Black History month, because there has been numerous threads about the subject just this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    , its much easier to group ppl
    Yet when white people do that, they're thought of as racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    , its much easier to group ppl
    and if its by race, then its racism




    Sorry for my bad grammer. Sometimes I forget that I am on a car forum. I really don't care to agrue about Black History month, because there has been numerous threads about the subject just this year.
    i wasnt referring to your grammar, cause i suck at grammar lol

    i was referring to you "grouping", as you so eloquently put it, white people together saying that WE go out on coon hunts and burn crosses

    i mean i could say the same ignorant racist things about people of other races, yet i know they arent true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    and if its by race, than its racism
    Nah man, you musta forgot. Only white people can be racist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    i was referring to you "grouping", as you so eloquently put it, white people together saying that WE go out on coon hunts and burn crosses
    yea its called sarcasm. But I don't expect you to know the differance, b/c u don't know me
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    i mean i could say the same ignorant racist things about people of other races, yet i know they arent true
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    Black history month was started back when blacks were treated less than human. Carter G. Woodson started Black history month in 1926, and he did it to show Blacks/Whites (mainly Black youths) what accomplishments blacks had made here in America. For many years it was only celebrated by blacks, it has only become widely celebrated in the last 20-30 years. The month doesn't preach hate for another race and it doesn’t show the supremacy of one race.

    I honestly don't see the problem with the month. The month affects no one and everybody I know that actually pays attention to the month; usually learn something new (including me). I would like to know more about other races too and I don't see a problem with Asian, Spanish, White history month. Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race. If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites. If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month


    this is the most ignorant bs ive ever read....


    why ask for equality but when you are offered it u cry about ur little history month. I thinkBHM is bullshit and another crutch for those black people who still feel like they ever had anything to do with slavery....get over it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    WELL then, BLACK POWER and Kill whitey.
    So much racism in here. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektik
    this is the most ignorant bs ive ever read....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektik
    why ask for equality but when you are offered it u cry about ur little history month. I thinkBHM is bullshit and another crutch for those black people who still feel like they ever had anything to do with slavery....get over it....
    I am the one crying??? My god I find it hilarious how people get so concerned over small matters that doesn’t even affect that person. I do think schools and some business take it too far sometimes when it comes to recognizing black history month. Please tell me how exactly how it affects you directly and promotes inequality? The most I hear from people who don’t agree on BHm, is that they just have a problem with the name of the month. Which is also the same reason why ppl get pissed about BET and when fubu was popular (finally once ppl caught on to the name).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
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    I am the one crying??? My god I find it hilarious how people get so concerned over small matters that doesn’t even affect that person. I do think schools and some business take it too far sometimes when it comes to recognizing black history month. Please tell me how exactly how it affects you directly and promotes inequality? The most I hear from people who don’t agree on BHm, is that they just have a problem with the name of the month. Which is also the same reason why ppl get pissed about BET and when fubu was popular (finally once ppl caught on to the name).
    i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stikiller
    i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I hate you too u big lip coon
    ha ha, but the do have their little white holidays, so they have no reason to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stikiller
    i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.
    oh got it, so once theres a non-white president the white people are gonna change the holiday to WHITE president day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    oh got it, so once theres a non-white president the white people are gonna change the holiday to WHITE president day?
    Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stikiller
    Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?
    What holidays do white people have that black people don't? President's day is a BS excuse, you're an American too. And I hope you're joking with the last part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stikiller
    Look yall have holidays all year long,
    they are everyones holidays last time i checked. i mean presidents day is to remember the leaders of this country, not what color they are.
    I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday.
    i agree with you there
    All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that.
    theres not a holiday for every presidents birthday, presidents day is on Washingtons birthday (i believe) my assumption as to that would be because he is the first presidnt of the US. so they deicded to remember all presidents on his bday.
    And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?
    i believe the month was created to bring awareness about black history, right? but as i said in my first post black=white=asian=hispanic=etc.. history.

    i think that cialis made a good point in this thread that the school curriculum needs a major overhaul to bring more minority history into the classroom
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    Quote Originally Posted by stikiller
    Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?
    the ignorance just reaks from your post
    since when was it a specific presidents holiday. its just PRESIDENTS DAY not gwb day or clinton presidents day, so if there ever was a black president it would still be his holiday.... the issue with BHM is that its a specific holiday for a specific race....

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    As I see it, BHM makes the divide between whites & black larger.

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    what holidays do white people have all year long??

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    christmas???

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    Quote Originally Posted by devin
    christmas???
    I couldn't think of any white holidays and I assume that might be what he was talking about since a white man is the face of christmas
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I couldn't think of any white holidays and I assume that might be what he was talking about since a white man is the face of christmas



    thats the most rediculous(sp?) thing i have ever heard.


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    This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.

    Blacks also fight for the supposedly "politically correct" alternative to 'blacks' : "african-americans". This so-called politically correct term is racist in nature, im white, and the majority of whites are ok with being called white. Personally, when i look in the mirror, on the most simplist terms of colors my skin is white. Blacks on the other hand get uneasy when refered to as blacks. Why? I have no idea, all i know is there are plenty of people that fight for this "politically correct" term. I have a little bit of irish in my bloodline, but am i called an Irish-American, nope; neither do i want to be called that. There is only one type of american in my opinion and thats the good ol fashioned plain "american" NOT: irish-american, african-american, turkish-american, or any other word you could make up. I just dont understand why a race that is supposedly anti-segregation chooses to segregate themselfs with "politically correct" termanology.

    We also have blatantly racist people in atlanta, that have influence over the population, two of which is the mayor of atlanta, and jesse jackson. yet they continue to do so with great support. You dont see the KKK on FOX News at night, but you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.

    All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.
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