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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Asian

    A third logical argument for God’s existence is called the cosmological argument. Every effect must have a cause. This universe and everything in it is an effect. There must be something that caused everything to come into existence. Ultimately, there must be something “un-caused” in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That “un-caused” something is God. A fourth argument is known as the moral argument. Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected. Where did this sense of right and wrong come from if not from a holy God?
    not to mention that is science too

    for every push there is a pull, common physics.
    funny how science fucks itself over when making such arguments and then pretends to be superior intellectually to all of those who believe in a greater being
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    for every push there is a pull, common physics.
    funny how science fucks itself over when making such arguments and then pretends to be superior intellectually to all of those who believe in a greater being
    What I find most interesting about Scientists vs the Bible is the inability of modern day scientists, with vast amounts of technology, to 100% disprove a book written thousands of years ago by a bunch of lower class guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    What I find most interesting about Scientists vs the Bible is the inability of modern day scientists, with vast amounts of technology, to 100% disprove a book written thousands of years ago by a bunch of lower class guys.
    lol which is exactly my point

    until they can disprove it, its retarded how they just make up more and more ridiculous theorems that are just as ridiculous in a sense as the bible is to the scientists.

    the worst part is that the common man doesn't realize that this is a THEOREM made up by a scientist.

    i stand on the religion side
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    lol which is exactly my point

    until they can disprove it, its retarded how they just make up more and more ridiculous theorems that are just as ridiculous in a sense as the bible is to the scientists.

    the worst part is that the common man doesn't realize that this is a THEOREM made up by a scientist.

    i stand on the religion side


    Yes, and a theorem is based on proven facts, so its nowhere near "made up".

    Funny how you consider the other side retarded for "making up" things when in fact that is what the bible is. If this book is really the word of god, then wheres the proof that he dictated it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB26powered


    Yes, and a theorem is based on proven facts, so its nowhere near "made up".

    Funny how you consider the other side retarded for "making up" things when in fact that is what the bible is. If this book is really the word of god, then wheres the proof that he dictated it?
    funny how you put all the laughing emoticons on there because you were too lazy to read the whole thing and decided to skim through.

    if you chose to go back and read word for word then you would see that i stated MULTIPLE times that i believe a lot of those things in the bible never happened but serve as a way for you to learn from and live your life as a good person.

    i don't take the book word for word and realistically i realize it was written by human beings, read what i say before you try to use my own arguments against me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    funny how you put all the laughing emoticons on there because you were too lazy to read the whole thing and decided to skim through.

    if you chose to go back and read word for word then you would see that i stated MULTIPLE times that i believe a lot of those things in the bible never happened but serve as a way for you to learn from and live your life as a good person.

    i don't take the book word for word and realistically i realize it was written by human beings, read what i say before you try to use my own arguments against me
    but if you believe in this why would you even consider yourself Christian of any doctrine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    funny how you put all the laughing emoticons on there because you were too lazy to read the whole thing and decided to skim through.

    if you chose to go back and read word for word then you would see that i stated MULTIPLE times that i believe a lot of those things in the bible never happened but serve as a way for you to learn from and live your life as a good person.

    i don't take the book word for word and realistically i realize it was written by human beings, read what i say before you try to use my own arguments against me
    Wow, don't we get all fussy when challenged.

    Thanks for making that ASSumtion, but I did read it. You simply missed my whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    What I find most interesting about Scientists vs the Bible is the inability of modern day scientists, with vast amounts of technology, to 100% disprove a book written thousands of years ago by a bunch of lower class guys.
    how are you going to disprove something people won't accept proof for? it is if a tree falls in the woods thing... christians basis for everything is faith and faith isn't proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    how are you going to disprove something people won't accept proof for? it is if a tree falls in the woods thing... christians basis for everything is faith and faith isn't proof.
    Neither is a guy with a lab coat saying "well, because the galaxies are moving, obviously the universe was compacted into a tiny particle that exploded." It's pure idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    It's pure idiocy.
    so is your view on the catholic church
    get back to that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky SC
    so is your view on the catholic church
    get back to that point
    I have no problem with catholics, only catholic officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    I have no problem with catholics, only catholic officials.
    then watch your mouth cuz thats not what you said before
    and what exactly is wrong with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Neither is a guy with a lab coat saying "well, because the galaxies are moving, obviously the universe was compacted into a tiny particle that exploded." It's pure idiocy.
    well the bible roughtly states the earth is 6000 years old... do you believe that? we can carbon date into the millions. we can go on for days back/forth on what can be disputed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    What I find most interesting about Scientists vs the Bible is the inability of modern day scientists, with vast amounts of technology, to 100% disprove a book written thousands of years ago by a bunch of lower class guys.
    Thats rediculous. Disproving something written thousands of years ago by people that couldn't even explain rain, earthquakes, floods, etc. and based it on religous beliefs that had been spoken by word of mouth for 100 years before the earliest books where written would be extremely hard to do.

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