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    um i'm just wondering how you can be christian but say you don't believe the bible word for word? isn't basically saying i'm christian but i believe what i want to believe, so in essence your not christian.
    Not true. The Bible is not a book of laws, it is kind of like a guidebook or a book of proverbs. This is why everyone's view of Christianity is skewed. As far as I know, only the Catholics are crazy enough to take the Bible word for word. They are the extremists and I think their higher-ups do things to give all Christians a bad name because most people don't know how different each denomination's beliefs really are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Not true. The Bible is not a book of laws, it is kind of like a guidebook or a book of proverbs. This is why everyone's view of Christianity is skewed. As far as I know, only the Catholics are crazy enough to take the Bible word for word. They are the extremists and I think their higher-ups do things to give all Christians a bad name because most people don't know how different each denomination's beliefs really are.
    the bible is a book of laws if you are christian... you can't say well i don't believe in sin so as long as i believe in god i'm going to heaven. you say extremists but those are the only people who can say they are that religion. you can't pick and choose the things you want to believe b/c in doing that you are saying that the bible isn't factual; furthermore saying the bible isn't true.

    i think you need to reread your bible b/c your saying you believe in GOD yet you don't believe in the bible as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    the bible is a book of laws if you are christian... you can't say well i don't believe in sin so as long as i believe in god i'm going to heaven. you say extremists but those are the only people who can say they are that religion. you can't pick and choose the things you want to believe b/c in doing that you are saying that the bible isn't factual; furthermore saying the bible isn't true.

    i think you need to reread your bible b/c your saying you believe in GOD yet you don't believe in the bible as fact.
    All you are describing is the beliefs of Catholics, I don't think you understand that. Catholics have set the example of how everyone else views Christians and it's simply wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? It never says "Do all this or you're going to hell." It states that if you truly believe in Christ, you will be forgiven of all your sins. Catholics just use this as a control device with the good old fire and brimstone banter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    All you are describing is the beliefs of Catholics, I don't think you understand that. Catholics have set the example of how everyone else views Christians and it's simply wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? It never says "Do all this or you're going to hell." It states that if you truly believe in Christ, you will be forgiven of all your sins. Catholics just use this as a control device with the good old fire and brimstone banter.
    wtf dude!?

    i think you're confusing the 15th century feudal times church with that of present day

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    All you are describing is the beliefs of Catholics, I don't think you understand that. Catholics have set the example of how everyone else views Christians and it's simply wrong. Have you ever read the Bible? It never says "Do all this or you're going to hell." It states that if you truly believe in Christ, you will be forgiven of all your sins. Catholics just use this as a control device with the good old fire and brimstone banter.
    um there are unforgivable sins, baptisms, etc.. there are many laws to which you need to abide by; if you truely believe. then you believe the bible is the word of god so you trying to debate that it isn't shows you obviously aren't practicing what you preach.

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    um there are unforgivable sins, baptisms, etc.. there are many laws to which you need to abide by; if you truely believe. then you believe the bible is the word of god so you trying to debate that it isn't shows you obviously aren't practicing what you preach.
    NAB Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    NAB Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."
    ya your point... b/c your proving mine; that specificlly states there are laws to christianity. also sins may be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness with truth in your heart. you sound like one of those Xmas/Easter christians... i go 2x a year and i'm going to heaven. lol

    dude you should really put more stock in what you believe.

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    ya your point... b/c your proving mine; that specificlly states there are laws to christianity. also sins may be forgiven if you ask for forgiveness with truth in your heart. you sound like one of those Xmas/Easter christians... i go 2x a year and i'm going to heaven. lol

    dude you should really put more stock in what you believe.
    You said we have laws to abide by. I posted the one law and it's pretty self-explanatory anyway, if you don't believe you won't be forgiven. How am I proving anything you said about having to follow a bunch of rules and take the entire Bible word for word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Not true. The Bible is not a book of laws, it is kind of like a guidebook or a book of proverbs. This is why everyone's view of Christianity is skewed. As far as I know, only the Catholics are crazy enough to take the Bible word for word. They are the extremists and I think their higher-ups do things to give all Christians a bad name because most people don't know how different each denomination's beliefs really are.


    dude i was with you the whole time until i read that qoute by admin

    thats actually pretty fucking insulting to go off on a limb and say that man. i'm roman catholic and i don't think you have even stepped into one of those churches before.

    they actually do more interpreting of the bible then any other christian religion out there. if you wanna go pointing fingers at who takes it word for word then you should blame the baptists.

    the higher ups give us a bad name? have you ever spoken to a priest or do you just glue your eyes to the news. vey few priests have ever done what they are stereotypically known for now because of a few bad apples. to do what they do is a huge commitment and a lot more then what a preacher has to do when giving his life to god.

    i'm tolerant towards all religions, but assuming that kind of stuff that you said was way out of line
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