A car carrier arrived at work today (BMW DRIVERS VERSUS IA...DRAMA FTW!)

[DinanM3atl]

THIS THREAD IS DUMB AS HELL.... ITS ABOUT AS DUMB AS THE Z06 VS. M5 THREAD... ARGUEING W/ BMW DRIVERS IS LIKE EXPLAINING A COLOR TO A BLIND MAN.

YOU CAN ALWAYS BUILD A FASTER/BETTER RIDE FOR CHEAPER ITS THAT SIMPLE... BY THE WAY ISN'T BMW SITTING BEHIND ACURA, MAZDA, AND AUDI IN THE WORLD CHALLENGE MANUFACTURER POINT STANDING?

http://www.world-challenge.com/events/points.php

Read what kenny posted Paul, Turner comes out, wins and kicks ass for a couple races a series so BMW's as a whole get penalized with restricter plates and weight penalties to try and "even" the field.

Also Turner doesnt run a full season in SWC... thus the best and most money team doesnt run all races, you can beat to hell that Turner cars are FAR superior to the other ones in that series, Turner does this in about 2 or 3 other series and people hate them for it.

The Mazda is definately fast though in SWC!

[4dmin]

Speed World Challenge you mean? Thats because Turner comes out first couple races and whoops EVERYBODY's ass, BAD, then ALL of the BMW's get weight penalties. Happens that way most every year.

I ONLY SAW ONE PODIUM FINISH FOR BMW... MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING.

[DinanM3atl]

excuses excuses

AHAHHAHAHA

calling FACTS excuses is retarded and used by those that don't have real information about the subject.


AHAHAHAHHAHA keep on drag racing dude

[Vteckidd]

LOL, drag racing you lose, an by those point standings, you lose too.

[4dmin]

AHAHHAHAHA

calling FACTS excuses is retarded and used by those that don't have real information about the subject.


AHAHAHAHHAHA keep on drag racing dude

here i what i'm wondering i've heard this BS a 100x from BMW owners... why are they getting weight penalties... obviously other manuf can get the same... i checked out laptimes and BMW are doing anything any other manuf aren't doing

[Doppelgänger]

Drag Racing is GHEY... unless its POWERTOOL DRAG RACING!!!

[kendogg]

I ONLY SAW ONE PODIUM FINISH FOR BMW... MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING.

I'll check on the intraweb when I get home, bt AFAIK, Turner swept 2 championships this season actually. I can't remember which series they run full seasons in and which ones they don't, but noth their M3 team and their 330 team won season championships this year. Your mis-informed Paul.

[DinanM3atl]

I ONLY SAW ONE PODIUM FINISH FOR BMW... MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING.

This year is slightly different, the Mazda has definately caught up on BMW, however in all the races Mazda has won or podium finished they restrictions and weight penalties ahve been nill.

I have to give all the cars in that series props because they are all very closely matched now for sure! It is a good series, one that BMW no longer completely dominates!

[Doppelgänger]

cause mazda rules!!!

[4dmin]

I'll check on the intraweb when I get home, bt AFAIK, Turner swept 2 championships this season actually. I can't remember which series they run full seasons in and which ones they don't, but noth their M3 team and their 330 team won season championships this year. Your mis-informed Paul.

Bill Auberlen won 1st in the first race and that was it... the highest points BMW driver is 12 Seth Thomas i believe... \/

http://www.world-challenge.com/event...php?pointid=82

[DinanM3atl]

Bill Auberlen won 1st in the first race and that was it... the highest points BMW driver is 12 Seth Thomas i believe... \/

http://www.world-challenge.com/event...php?pointid=82

Again, thank you for supporting what I said.

Neither Turner nor Bimmerworld run full seasons.

Bill with Turner comes in and wins first place in the first race. Penalties will in encurred on ALL BMWS IN THE SERIES! and then turner and bimmerworld miss a couple races then show up for another one. Come on man, So you have guys with the best cars racing 4-5 times a season and the ones with privately funded cars penalized because a team with an unlimited budget won a race, and then skips a couple of races.

[JBalla1036]

Mazda 6 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DinanM3atl]

Mazda 6 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all reality it is VERY fast in raceform as proven by Speed World Challenge Series

[ShooterMcGavin]

this thread brings to mind an old joke i heard once:

what's the difference btw a bmw and a porcupine?

















































a porcupine has its pricks on the outside

i love bmw's, always have and probably always will. but it's threads and this and some of the comments made by bimmer owners here that created the stereotype that all bmw owners are arrogant pricks who look down on everyone not driving a bmw, how sad

[Five*Star*]

Wow, looks like I missed something. This is a long ass thread!


Mazdaspeed 6 FTW!! HeHe

[JBalla1036]

In all reality it is VERY fast in raceform as proven by Speed World Challenge Series

Yes I know I've driven one!!

Wow, looks like I missed something. This is a long ass thread!


Mazdaspeed 6 FTW!! HeHe

Or regular Mazda 6 with turbo FTW!!!!!!

[ShooterMcGavin]

ON alot odf boards I post on, especially bimmerforums, you get a 2-day temp ban for out of hand name-calling, and personal attacks. Just keeps the riff-raff out, ya know? They try to keep us at least respectful of eachother in at least some context I guess :shrugs:

u spoker earlier in the thread about how all jap car owners are STUPID, is that the same kind of respect that u speak of here now?

[4dmin]

Again, thank you for supporting what I said.

Neither Turner nor Bimmerworld run full seasons.

Bill with Turner comes in and wins first place in the first race. Penalties will in encurred on ALL BMWS IN THE SERIES! and then turner and bimmerworld miss a couple races then show up for another one. Come on man, So you have guys with the best cars racing 4-5 times a season and the ones with privately funded cars penalized because a team with an unlimited budget won a race, and then skips a couple of races.

nope bill ran 1 race ... all of the other bmw's ran and the best rank is 12 so what does that say about the manuf.? ok

[DinanM3atl]

nope bill ran 1 race ... all of the other bmw's ran and the best rank is 12 so what does that say about the manuf.? ok

Are you even reading what I am typing Paul or just what you want to out of the post?


In SWC all vehicles will be penalized via restrictor plates and weight penalties because of podium finishes and performance in races. SO, they all got penalized then Turner doesn't show up anymore. Quit argueing about something you know very little about and you just "read it on the internet"

I admitted that all the vehicles are more closely matched this year. But you take vehicles that have similar weight, power etc

Then throw 250 pounds in the passenger seat, see what happens.

[The Yousef]

... ARGUEING W/ BMW DRIVERS IS LIKE EXPLAINING A COLOR TO A BLIND MAN.

thanks Paulina


now i must leave study for my finals that i'm about to fail....

~leaves~

[4dmin]

Are you even reading what I am typing Paul or just what you want to out of the post?


In SWC all vehicles will be penalized via restrictor plates and weight penalties because of podium finishes and performance in races. SO, they all got penalized then Turner doesn't show up anymore. Quit argueing about something you know very little about and you just "read it on the internet"

I admitted that all the vehicles are more closely matched this year. But you take vehicles that have similar weight, power etc

Then throw 250 pounds in the passenger seat, see what happens.

SIMILAR WEIGHT ISN'T SAME WEIGHT. you make it sound like no other form of racing has restrictions... even drag racing has restrictions + tech inspections... every form of racing does that makes the playing field even and make it a driver sport not a $$$ sport. they have cars w/ 1.8L motors competing in this against BMW w/ 3.0L motors.

[Jaimecbr900]

Hmmm, so let's get this straight:

The term "luxury" is defined by guys that drive 20 yr old beater cars because they have an airplane prop on the hood they think makes THEM cool???

Got it.

The BMW is the "ultimate" driving machine, only if it goes to the twisties where the driver grew up in and paved himself with ma and paw and runs against a FWD 4 cyl car.

Got it.

The BMW is "luxury" because it is DELIVERED in an enclosed trailer which somehow adds what......30-40 HP and instantly puts on aftermarket mods.....*edited*- Oh, and the enclosed trailer also makes the leather softer, the dash less plastic, the electronics work better, the maintainance cheaper, and the instrument cluster much more modern since it looks the same as it did back in 1932.

Got it.

I'm not a stereotypical BMW dickweed, yet EVERY SINGLE thread I'm in I HAVE TO remind everyone that I drive a BMW, even if it's old, even if it's tired, and even if it's the only car I have any experience in.

Got it.

The BMW is the mack daddy race bred car, yet when it goes head-to-head in a championship series against the likes of much "lesser" JAPANESE cars......it's not even in the hunt for the boobie prize. Why? "Cause, coach.....my pussy hurts.....and them meany boys put restrictor plates and extra weight on my car and now that we're EVEN and it's up to ME to win or lose.....I get my ASS handed to me by smaller engined cars.......Coach.....my pussy hurts because they're making me play by the RULES that were there when I started the season.....Coach, that aint fair because I'm LOSING.......and my pussy hurts...."

Got it.

[Fast Shadow]

Yah I had a pink sticker for flatlinecustoms.net And your point being? It is a "hazing" type thing to get into the club, drive around with it for a month. What is the big deal, why don't you go over to NASIOC.com and post on the forum that all their STIs are ghey because STI color is pink... good arguement prick, let me get all flatline together, you meet us at taco mac and come tell all of us that. Thumps up for you, I could careless the value or perceived value of your E46 M3, I walked those at Road Atlanta too, Even passed an Elise... What is your point? Keep your Jap car.

You need all of your friends around to when one person tells you your car looks gay when it has a giant pink banner on the windshield? STis don't have giant pink banners on their windshields, let's stick to the subject. STis with the little pink STi logos look cool, it's a tradition. Giant pink windshield graphics do not. Ever. On any car.

You walk E46 M3s? LIRL, not unless you have an AA turbo or blower.

[BigTs13]

** sneaks quietly into the room**

Supra FTMFW BITCHES!!!!!!

** hauls ass outta the room**

[ShooterMcGavin]

Hmmm, so let's get this straight:

The term "luxury" is defined by guys that drive 20 yr old beater cars because they have an airplane prop on the hood they think makes THEM cool???

Got it.

The BMW is the "ultimate" driving machine, only if it goes to the twisties where the driver grew up in and paved himself with ma and paw and runs against a FWD 4 cyl car.

Got it.

The BMW is "luxury" because it is DELIVERED in an enclosed trailer which somehow adds what......30-40 HP and instantly puts on aftermarket mods.....

Got it.

I'm not a stereotypical BMW dickweed, yet EVERY SINGLE thread I'm in I HAVE TO remind everyone that I drive a BMW, even if it's old, even if it's tired, and even if it's the only car I have any experience in.

Got it.

The BMW is the mack daddy race bred car, yet when it goes head-to-head in a championship series against the likes of much "lesser" JAPANESE cars......it's not even in the hunt for the boobie prize. Why? "Cause, coach.....my pussy hurts.....and them meany boys put restrictor plates and extra weight on my car and now that we're EVEN and it's up to ME to win or lose.....I get my ASS handed to me by smaller engined cars.......Coach.....my pussy hurts because they're making me play by the RULES that were there when I started the season.....Coach, that aint fair because I'm LOSING.......and my pussy hurts...."

Got it.

try as i might i couldn't help but el oh el, reps for you

[4dmin]

Hmmm, so let's get this straight:

The term "luxury" is defined by guys that drive 20 yr old beater cars because they have an airplane prop on the hood they think makes THEM cool???

Got it.

The BMW is the "ultimate" driving machine, only if it goes to the twisties where the driver grew up in and paved himself with ma and paw and runs against a FWD 4 cyl car.

Got it.

The BMW is "luxury" because it is DELIVERED in an enclosed trailer which somehow adds what......30-40 HP and instantly puts on aftermarket mods.....

Got it.

I'm not a stereotypical BMW dickweed, yet EVERY SINGLE thread I'm in I HAVE TO remind everyone that I drive a BMW, even if it's old, even if it's tired, and even if it's the only car I have any experience in.

Got it.

The BMW is the mack daddy race bred car, yet when it goes head-to-head in a championship series against the likes of much "lesser" JAPANESE cars......it's not even in the hunt for the boobie prize. Why? "Cause, coach.....my pussy hurts.....and them meany boys put restrictor plates and extra weight on my car and now that we're EVEN and it's up to ME to win or lose.....I get my ASS handed to me by smaller engined cars.......Coach.....my pussy hurts because they're making me play by the RULES that were there when I started the season.....Coach, that aint fair because I'm LOSING.......and my pussy hurts...."

Got it.

i'd take jaimes GROCERY GETTER over a m3... remember the viper coming back from savannah?

[HalfBaked]

The BMW is the "ultimate" driving machine, only if it goes to the twisties where the driver grew up in and paved himself with ma and paw and runs against a FWD 4 cyl car.

Got it.

Whoa.

Can we leave the FWD 4 cyl's outof this!!!

[man]

lol, I'll put my $5k "ricer" up against any stock m3 on any track, yes I've driven plenty of them. Not impressed at all.

[kendogg]

u spoker earlier in the thread about how all jap car owners are STUPID, is that the same kind of respect that u speak of here now?

Search bimmerforums for my sn there - kendogg. And check out the place, it's nice, people get along, people post intelligent stuff all the time. And when something isn't kosher - the board members tell them. Thats just how it is.

[Vteckidd]

Hmmm, so let's get this straight:

The term "luxury" is defined by guys that drive 20 yr old beater cars because they have an airplane prop on the hood they think makes THEM cool???

Got it.

The BMW is the "ultimate" driving machine, only if it goes to the twisties where the driver grew up in and paved himself with ma and paw and runs against a FWD 4 cyl car.

Got it.

The BMW is "luxury" because it is DELIVERED in an enclosed trailer which somehow adds what......30-40 HP and instantly puts on aftermarket mods.....

Got it.

I'm not a stereotypical BMW dickweed, yet EVERY SINGLE thread I'm in I HAVE TO remind everyone that I drive a BMW, even if it's old, even if it's tired, and even if it's the only car I have any experience in.

Got it.

The BMW is the mack daddy race bred car, yet when it goes head-to-head in a championship series against the likes of much "lesser" JAPANESE cars......it's not even in the hunt for the boobie prize. Why? "Cause, coach.....my pussy hurts.....and them meany boys put restrictor plates and extra weight on my car and now that we're EVEN and it's up to ME to win or lose.....I get my ASS handed to me by smaller engined cars.......Coach.....my pussy hurts because they're making me play by the RULES that were there when I started the season.....Coach, that aint fair because I'm LOSING.......and my pussy hurts...."

Got it.

/END MOTHERFUCKING THREAD

[4dmin]

kendogg + dinanm3 one of you guys gonna answer me:

SIMILAR WEIGHT ISN'T SAME WEIGHT. you make it sound like no other form of racing has restrictions... even drag racing has restrictions + tech inspections... every form of racing does that makes the playing field even and make it a driver sport not a $$$ sport. they have cars w/ 1.8L motors competing in this against BMW w/ 3.0L motors.

how come you talk big game about bmw being the amazing track cars yet you make excuses about it not being a level playing field?

[1SICKLEX]

I would like someone to tell me at the next meet my Lexus GS 430 is that much sub-par to a German equivlent...
Please, tell me in person.

I have great respect for all brands. Better yet, great KNOWLEDGE of them. I bet you didn't know BMW was almost bankrupt in the 1950s and almost bought by Mercedes Benz.

Did you know about the current 1 series? Did you know you can get a 154hp new 5 series in Europe, with vinyl seats? 2007 model

For every M5 or M3 there are 5,000 325s or 525s running around...

They make FANTASTIC cars, not sure why some owners feel the need to downgrade anything not German.

[4dmin]

I would like someone to tell me at the next meet my Lexus GS 430 is that much sub-par to a German equivlent...
Please, tell me in person.

I have great respect for all brands. Better yet, great KNOWLEDGE of them. I bet you didn't know BMW was almost bankrupt in the 1950s and almost bought by Mercedes Benz.

Did you know about the current 1 series? Did you know you can get a 154hp new 5 series in Europe, with vinyl seats? 2007 model

For every M5 or M3 there are 5,000 325s or 525s running around...

They make FANTASTIC cars, not sure why some owners feel the need to downgrade anything not German.

german(euro) vs. jap is a whole other topic... personally i would rather drive german too but i would buy a porsche/audi any day over bmw

[kendogg]

kendogg + dinanm3 one of you guys gonna answer me:



how come you talk big game about bmw being the amazing track cars yet you make excuses about it not being a level playing field?

Simple. Most of them build the cars to the rule book. A few don't. A few are faster. A few aren't legal. A few don't play by the rules, and use the series simply for product testing and development. Then penalties get put on the entire brand. How is that fair in the end?

[kendogg]

german(euro) vs. jap is a whole other topic... personally i would rather drive german too but i would buy a porsche/audi any day over bmw

I'd buy a porsche in a heartbeat. Never ever dis'd porsche. But an Audi - well, thats a whole 'nother story. I wounld't touch one with a 10 foot pole personally. Just because they're german doens't mean I'd automatically buy it.

[1SICKLEX]

Why do you need to wash the nice car?

BMW and Mercedes ships in ENCLOSED trailers and each car is under a cover.... I thought all "luxury" manufacturers would do this?

No the hell they don't. This is total misinformation. I got pics of new R-classes (Mercedes)on a regular exposed trailer.

Don't go spouting totally wrong information.

[BigTs13]

2006 ZO6 > 2006 BMW.........

[Nemesis]

2006 ZO6 > 2006 BMW.........

oh noes

[1SICKLEX]

german(euro) vs. jap is a whole other topic... personally i would rather drive german too but i would buy a porsche/audi any day over bmw

Porsche is my favorite non Lexus brand.... I dream of a 964 3.8 (they did not sell them in America)....

[Vteckidd]

Simple. Most of them build the cars to the rule book. A few don't. A few are faster. A few aren't legal. A few don't play by the rules, and use the series simply for product testing and development. Then penalties get put on the entire brand. How is that fair in the end?

BMW CANT COMPETE WITH OTHER MANUFACTURERS ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, PERIOD.

sure they are faster at the beginning of the year when they have more power and less weight.

you guys LOVE arguing apples to oranges comparisons. Like your G35 vs M3 comments. YOUR COMPARING DIFFERENT CARS.

so if a car was allowed to enter that made 100more whp, and whooped BMWs ass, would you complain? or would you say "who cares, my car is more luxurious"