its amazing we have to do this shit on a state level b/c the gov't keeps dragging its feet... land mines + wild dogs + snipers = no boarder jumpers
its amazing we have to do this shit on a state level b/c the gov't keeps dragging its feet... land mines + wild dogs + snipers = no boarder jumpers
Where was I when this thread was made...cool aid you got rep for that one....
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so the soccer game guys whos winning ..
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please delete your post. we were having a nice discussion before this bullshit.Originally Posted by nolimitsteveo
When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.
i wont delete it but just let the system work for itself ..
obviously by you speaking isnt gunna change anything ..
non us-citizens will still get into this country one way or another ..
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I vote put guys with sniper rifles on the border...and a mine feild...
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i 2nd
3rd.
you tighten up the border = no more drugs
drugs = lots of money
money = nice things for anyone involved.. politicians or anyone that turns their head. = fuck you, illegals will still make it into the country.
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oh I am not saying that that would stop the flow of illegals, but I think that it would dramtically reduce the flow because it would make them think twice about going over the border for fear of getting shot or blown to peices...
Drugs = dirty money = bad = high crime rate = more money haveing to be spent on crime control = higher taxes = less abitily to spend money = bad econmy...
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wow that just what we want :jerkit: , another reason for land mines and snipers
When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.
Another thing is I think the reason why we have some many illegals flocking over the border is our low income cizten support. I believe that if we stopped giving out welfare checks and medical care to people that arent trying to improve themselves and to illegals then it would also slow things down.
I have abosutely no problem with mexicans asains or russain candain or where ever the hell they might be from coming over here asimalating into our socaility and working and following our rules and paying taxes just like everyone else. I do have a problem with people from other places coming here not paying taxes not asimalating into our sociality and getting paid to sit on their ass all day...
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paul i just gave you a working example. you can accept it or not. truth be told, nobody really works for minimum wage anymore anyways. but i made it work. one parent and two children? its called contraceptives.
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no you added to your example so you could have more money to play w/... you can't live on min wage it can't be done w/o gov't aid. please show me how you can live on min wage. you = 1 not you and your girlfriend who makes min wage.
you make 680 a month now explain?
I hated my job at the pharmacy because I saw to many people walking up in the expensive ass cloths diamond rings with a caddy key on the key chain walking up to give me a metacaid card for their kid. It was all I could do to say sorry we dont take metacaid from people who drive caddys
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you want me to live on min wage?
it has been done. its called college. my rent was 409 a month. that would leave me 191 to eat. cheap food and your set. agian, not that difficult to believe. no you wont be eating flilet minion and drinking 60 doller wine but you can still do it.
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rent = 409
191 = eat
now where you going to take shower b/c you have a water bill? wow sorry ice storm hits you can only work 3 days this week. work isn't providing your clothes anymore you need to buy new gear. ya thats what i thought. thanx for playing.
min wage it is possible you just have to live in a shit hole apartment, drive a geo metro or a bike, and get ramen for breakfast lunch and dinner, and if anything bad happens you will have use gov't support...and when you have to buy new cloths...
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Wow...this thread started off so well too.
i agree but as i said it can only be done w/ gov't aid
What I was trying to get across that just normal living with out anything bad happening and no one gets sick or your car never breaks and you never have to buy new cloths you can do it. Min wage IMO is designed to help people get started again because if you can hold down a job you will eventually get a rise. In short in a perfect world with no problems it can be done...I am sure it can be done in a non-perfect world, but I havent come across anyone that has done it yet...
There should be a limit of how long you can get gov't aid through welfare to prevent those people who just do enough to keep their job and never get raises...get what I am saying?
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409 was all inclusive. as for food, do what everyone else does, get a credit card. lets factor that in. start out with a 500 doller credit limit. which is what i got without a job. lets say you buy clothes for u and your kid. max it out. 500. with 19.8% interest thats a 15 doller a month payment. looks like only 170 to eat on. damn. and to be honest. i lived for 8 months on 609 dollers a month. its possible. i even had money to drink away my sorrows.
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Cherry Kool Aid , great post.. dont listen to this left wingers...
I have worked with all races.. white/blacks/asians/spanish.. whatever.. Some white peopel are scared to start at the bottom.
White people for the most part have a hard time working in jobs that pay under 10 bucks an hr.. they rather stay at home for us tax payers to pay for there shit.
Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see this.. I mean... There are 1000's of Job in GA paying from 8 to 10 bucks an hr.. So who to blame for this, IMIGRANTS? lame, is to easy.. always trying to find someone to blame..
Dont believe me? take a drive to your Local RETAIL BUSINESS.. Most of the lower Level employees make under 10 bucks, about 95 % I BET, make under 10 bucks an hr.. and Most are Black/asian/spanish.. You might find a few white people in there, But not many..
I know plenty of white people that rather work at an office making 9.50 an hr with no room for improvement with that company rather then work at a Best buy (w/ room to move up) making 9.50 and be seen by some of her/his friends..
I started working at 16 .. making 6.25 an hr back in 96 with quiktrip... 6 motherfukcing 25...
Now, Not all whites are like this.. I mean, All my bosses are white hahahahahhahaha
i worked for 4.25 when i was 14 at win dixie in lawrenceville on weekends (all i could work being in middle school
i worked for 4.25 when i was 14 at win dixie in lawrenceville on weekends (all i could work being in middle school
blah.. you know what I mean though, you are a diffrent white dude.... You a hard worker.. But you were 14, 4.25 an hr is gold for a 14 year old.. But I mean, how many 20 + adults you see at these types of jobs trying to survive though.. is not only imigrants..
of course, there are more succesful white people in this country ( well duh ).. But still , I hope my point wasnt taken the wrong way..
i get ya... but like i posted previous this generation is like that b/c the parents... parents provide for their families... i saw a 60min on this family in cali that 2 mexican immigrants worked night/day to put 2 children through college, 1 of the kids is now a lawyer. see what i mean. it doesn't matter race but what is provided for you. even mcdonalds salary can yeild a doctor/lawyer in your family
no i userstood, but you can't design something around the short term, b/c that is why we have so many people on gov't programs. worthless people rather underachieve then have to bust ass to do better.What I was trying to get across that just normal living with out anything bad happening and no one gets sick or your car never breaks and you never have to buy new cloths you can do it. Min wage IMO is designed to help people get started again because if you can hold down a job you will eventually get a rise. In short in a perfect world with no problems it can be done...I am sure it can be done in a non-perfect world, but I havent come across anyone that has done it yet...
There should be a limit of how long you can get gov't aid through welfare to prevent those people who just do enough to keep their job and never get raises...get what I am saying?
they should just do away w/ it... i fucking can't stand it that my wife/i are trying to put her through college to become a doctor the gov't says your cost of living + school cost us 35k and they only give us 10k... we then have to take out more loans to cover the rest of school which cost us 22k. now when she finishes school we will have an extra payment = to mortgage payment of around 600 to pay back he school loans. and you don't have a choice they will garnish your wages if you try to skip out on them. but some fucking bitch can keep getting pregnant get a monthly check and free healthcare on my tax dollars. i'm not bitching that we have to pay it back but when we have to go take out extra loans from school the % rates suck b/c gov't loans are the best. there would be more money available if the system wasn't being leeched on in other areas
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i'm an immigrant and we were poor as shit when we first moved here. my parents have always held at least 1 job and even now they're still both working hard (my mom barely makes $10/hr now for god's sake). i myself started working at the age of 15 at my local publix for a whopping $5.50/hr. went on to work many places at under $10/hr all the way through college. shit i worked as a damn valet for average pay even after i graduated college not 2 yrs ago. maybe that's why it pisses me off in a way to see illegals taking some jobs away from those that would actually work a job even if it didn't pay well. but that's in no way saying i condone all the lazy ass motherfuckers who don't want to work for less than wonderful pay.
Oh.. not only in retail, I know plenty of office jobs that pay 10 bucks an hr.
Dude I understand that one... I have never taken out an unemployement check or welfare check even though I should have many times...and I staying on gov't health for a very short period of time til I could get my own (like 3 months) Then we kept the peachcare stuff for my daughter and used it as a 2nd health insurance...now I have my own health ins, a good job, and can pay for myself and I pay child support.
I like to think that I am a good example of what to do in a bad situation...I am 20 yrs old, divorced once, and father of one. I got alot of help from my parents and my babies's momma's parents, but they could only do so much...I paid for our food and transportation the only thing they paid for for the most part was shelter and a shower...
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anyways.. this topic is over with seriously, I mean the IMMIGRANTS won.. hahaha well.. sorda..
No I dont want speedmonkey to win...
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