Quote Originally Posted by Interlude
1. I said that plane = dyno roller, treadmill = car. Please reread what i said.

2. Plane will take off on snow since there AREN'T any -A Velocity on X axis with -hp & -tq. Also, the snow will have enough friction for the plan to grip on. Treadmill has -A Velocity on X axis with -hp & -tq. It counters every +A velocity in the +X direction.

3. Plane doesn't require right velocity/speed to lift off, it requires enough lift force of the air movement. It relies on its speed to help it move ALONG the density of the air to cause enough lift. If the plan is to run on the space runway where there aren't any air, it will not have any vertical movement. It will move VERY fast on the outerspace runway, but not UP unless it has a thrust engine to push it up and changes its Y directional velocity. The plane can run at 500mph on the runway while the air is moving at the SAME velocity and SAME force and SAME direction as the plane, it still WILL NOT take off.

I don't believe it bet. But I understand your concept very well.

It's time for the Mythbuster to prove this.
A plane DOES require velocity/speed to lift. The speed of the air over the top of the wing vs over the bottom of the wing creates a pressure difference and that is what gives you lift.

Wrong on the bolded part. How can a treadmill counteract the FORWARD push of the engines by spinning the wheels of a plane? All it does is spin the wheels. Answer me that. I just busted your theory, btw...