Should have done more to honor Chris Kyle? Err at least anything? I hope he mentions something or wears something to recognize a lost American hero.
If Obama did give any recognition could you post it? I must of missed it somehow.
Does anybody else think Obama...
Should have done more to honor Chris Kyle? Err at least anything? I hope he mentions something or wears something to recognize a lost American hero.
If Obama did give any recognition could you post it? I must of missed it somehow.
Unfortunately heroes die pretty regularly. I understand Chris Kyle was a great sniper and died as a result of being a charitable person but I'm honestly not sure what should be the criteria for when the president should acknowledge the death of an individual. Thousands have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not have been as good of a shot or written any books but does that make them less deserving of recognition for their sacrifice. I'm open to other opinions and to learning more about Kyle.
You just opened a can of worms
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All of this is on Facebook. As said, many great individuals die who fought for this country, in my opinion if Obama recognizes one, he will have to recognize them all or a whole other storm will develop. It sounds like a douche move yeah and it's hard for me to say that it's right, but I'm sure his PR person or whoever handles his moves in front of the public has a reason why.
Do we as citizens show our respect for every killed US soldier? We should be the most thankful for those who keep us safe.
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I agree with almost everything that has been posted here. Tragic that he died, but does that rise to the level of President publicly talking about it? I don't think so.
Despite what you read on FB, Obama did not order the flags at half mast for Whitney Houston. I'm no fan of the President, but we can't blame him for everything...
I'm just going to say it. Obama went out of his way to recognize Trevon Martin.
National Polarizing issue, i would venture most americans know Treyvon Martin, most wont know Chris Kyle
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Does anybody else think Obama is a worthless piece of shit?
<raises hand>
That's the problem. Our president panders to the audience rather than doing the right thing. An american hero dies and the response is "this isnt a big enough PR moment for our rock star president".... but if Snooki died.... liberals would throw a parade.
~raises hand~
Let me add the caveat that he shouldn't commented on the Treyvon case either... Or about the Cambridge police, or Sandra Fluke, or...
Here we go...
get used to it.... its gonna last for at least a decade. I have a feeling our generation will be sitting in rocking chairs on our porch when we're 50 talking about how big of a piece of shit Obama was.
Yep
It was a racially charged hotly debated and horribly reported story by the media. Thats what made it relevant.
Im not saying i agree with it, im just saying theres a reason he responded, and im not sure it was because he is a "piece or shit" or that was his motivation behind it.
It speaks more to his "score political points" more than anything. Hes never been a leader , he says things that ignite a argument, but rarely does anything to lead people to that place he wants to go.
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I fear the "place he wants to go" and my absolute best expectations for him is that he fails in achieving anything. That is the best case scenario.
Eh, edited because Sinfix is already too stressed.
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^^^ I can read deleted comments.
You did the right thing.
Yes I understand this, everybody that serves is a hero to me. I guess I am just seeing Chris Kyle as an icon and figured due to his status there should have been some recognition. I am not trying to get into if Obama is great or awful, his actions speak for himself. The topic was I think Chris Kyle deserved something from the Commander and Chief.
Side note, has anybody read the book?
Simon's comments usually dont bother me too much. I've accepted that he's a pillow soft liberal apologist and his insults go in one ear and out the other as if it was a nagging house wife bitching from the kitchen about the trash not being taken out.^^^ I can read deleted comments.
You did the right thing.
It was a troll post but someone may have seen it and thought I was serious.
I like how I'm automatically classed as a liberal for having an open mind and not agreeing with all of your views. I am pillow soft, I'm a nice and caring person. Want a hug?
I'm not the hugging type. I dont classify you because you dont agree with me..... lot of people here dont agree with me and i dont label them liberals. I certainly do not claim to be the "conservative voice" on this forum... especially since i do not even claim to be a conservative.
Well not that I care to be called a liberal I just think its funny you always point someone out as a liberal if they see things a tad different. I think gun opinions are the big thing on if you determine someone as a liberal.
No hugs? You gay.
I honestly had never heard of him until he died.
I couldnt agree more.
The real issue with me here is the racial side of it. He seems to have a knack for jumping on stories that can easily be twisted into racial altercations. Maybe its pandering to his black base, maybe he really does want the country divided along any lines he can find. I dont know what his motivations are, but the perception is of a president who is quick to accuse someone of racism, even before he has the facts.
if you're anti gun..... at all.... you're on my shit list.
The real heros don't do it for praise or remembrance. They could care less whats done for them in the afterlife. If you want to honor them live up to the standards and freedoms they sacrificed so much for.
Amen to that......
That is a totally different subject. I do agree though.
Typical of a liberal to not understand that stance.
I'll try to explain it to you in a way that you might be more likely to understand.......
If the government said they wanted to ban ordering a cosmo at a heterosexual bar, i would also stand up against that ban. Even though banning cosmos would have zero effect on my life because i dont drink them, i still understand that the government is taking something from someone who enjoys it without justification for doing so. If they think they can take your freedom, they will think they can take my freedom. "an attack on anyone's freedom is an attack on everyone's freedom" The 2nd amendment being attacked is extra significant, because in essence, it is the amendment to defend all amendments. Once it falls, you're a pet.
So when you say to me "i support an assault weapons ban" what i hear is "i support the government banning something without justification as long as its not something that has an effect on my life"
and when you think that.....
i think you're a bitch.
One of these is the american people and one is the government. Which one you think you are is a pretty clear way to find out if you're a liberal.
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The key here is "without justification". You may not agree with the justification, but it doesn't mean there is none. On this particular subject, I happen to be closer to your side but I can still understand why others feel differently.
This assumes a false dichotomy. Not everyone sees the American Government and the American people as two distinctly different entities.
NEWS FLASH: I DON'T SUPPORT AN ASSAULT WEAPON BAN NOR DO I SUPPORT ANY GUN BANS.Typical of a liberal to not understand that stance.
I'll try to explain it to you in a way that you might be more likely to understand.......
If the government said they wanted to ban ordering a cosmo at a heterosexual bar, i would also stand up against that ban. Even though banning cosmos would have zero effect on my life because i dont drink them, i still understand that the government is taking something from someone who enjoys it without justification for doing so. If they think they can take your freedom, they will think they can take my freedom. "an attack on anyone's freedom is an attack on everyone's freedom" The 2nd amendment being attacked is extra significant, because in essence, it is the amendment to defend all amendments. Once it falls, you're a pet.
So when you say to me "i support an assault weapons ban" what i hear is "i support the government banning something without justification as long as its not something that has an effect on my life"
and when you think that.....
i think you're a bitch.
One of these is the american people and one is the government. Which one you think you are is a pretty clear way to find out if you're a liberal.
That's the issue with you, you CAN'T READ. lol
Then you should be equally as outraged at Obama as i am! Join the club!
Assault rifles are less than a 1/2 of a percent of criminal activity in america. If that .5% is all the justification the government needs..... then god help us all.
What about assault rifles being used in mass shootings? The percentage is higher than in criminal activity. Do you think that guy who did the shooting at the Dark Knight theatre would have killed more people with a hand gun instead of an assault rifle? Sandy Hook is another one. Obama is trying to reduce tragedies like these from happening.
FactCheck.org : Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
One thing that is clear: Guns are effective lethal weapons. “If there were no guns, the lethality of crimes would be less,” says Wellford. “You can’t have a drive-by knifing.”
In all cases of injury prevention, says Hemenway, the agent, or method, involved makes a difference. On Dec. 14, the day of the shooting in Newtown, another attack occurred at an elementary school in China. The attacker there had a knife, and injured 22 kids and one adult. But no one was killed. Why the stark difference in fatalities? “The answer is the type of weapon they had,” Hemenway says.
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Here’s a funny fact about FactCheck.org: Barack Obama was Chairman of The Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 until 2000. The Challenge had to do with reforming Chicago public schools.
But, it was funded by the same source that funds FactCheck.org: The Annenberg Foundation. If you go to FactCheck.org and look at the logo, you will see “ANNENBERG POLITICAL FACTCHECK.”
You can read all of the documentation about this connection between Obama and the Annenberg organizations on Wikipedia: Chicago Annenberg Challenge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So…knowing this now…can you REALLY rely on FactCheck.org to tell you the “true” and “accurate” facts about anything regarding Obama and Joe Biden?
Sweet.... fact checkers.... the same people who told us that Mitt Romney told the biggest lie of the campaign when he said that Jeep was going to China. Obama and the liberal media thugs attacked him relentlessly over that accusation. The worker's at Jeep even turned on him and publicly called him a liar.
Chrysler announces deal to build Jeeps in China
America doesnt have a gun problem, we have a crime problem. You're only looking at one side of the coin if you judge guns based on gun crime alone. Even in a country where guns are so prevalent, 5000+ home invasions happen a day in the US. Do you think the absence of guns will help or hurt with that? Given the number of guns in the US, how long do you think it would take before guns were actually removed from society even if you did get your wish? 50 years? 100 years? 200 years?.... Also, people invented guns. They werent gifts that the government passed out. If you removed purchasable weapons, people would create weapons. Banning assault weapons accomplishes absolutely nothing. It's nothing more than a feel good in your face america story for liberal parasites who wish to reconstruct the country as they see fit. I was watching the SOTU and afterwards they interviewed some bleeding heart liberal who probably had to hide the boner in his pants he was so happy.... and this guy said something along the lines of....
"wow, if Obama gets everything he wants, this will be a completely different country in 5 years"
Though this guy said it with a smile on his face and with utmost confidence.... i thought to myself... "and thats the fucking problem".....
Actually, it was not the type of weapon. It was the intention of the criminal. He intentionally slashed instead of stabbed - knowing that he would not actually kill at the school. Factcheck was probably only were able to look at the English version published with the video. He did stab the old woman when he broke into her house, so he did use stabbing as well. Look at the Chinese publications on the attack.
Regardless, 25 students have been killed in random knife attacks in China since 2010, with 110 injured. When will they ban all these dangerous knives in China?
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