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    Should have done more to honor Chris Kyle? Err at least anything? I hope he mentions something or wears something to recognize a lost American hero.

    If Obama did give any recognition could you post it? I must of missed it somehow.

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    Unfortunately heroes die pretty regularly. I understand Chris Kyle was a great sniper and died as a result of being a charitable person but I'm honestly not sure what should be the criteria for when the president should acknowledge the death of an individual. Thousands have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not have been as good of a shot or written any books but does that make them less deserving of recognition for their sacrifice. I'm open to other opinions and to learning more about Kyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Unfortunately heroes die pretty regularly. I understand Chris Kyle was a great sniper and died as a result of being a charitable person but I'm honestly not sure what should be the criteria for when the president should acknowledge the death of an individual. Thousands have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not have been as good of a shot or written any books but does that make them less deserving of recognition for their sacrifice. I'm open to other opinions and to learning more about Kyle.
    I'm just going to say it. Obama went out of his way to recognize Trevon Martin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I'm just going to say it. Obama went out of his way to recognize Trevon Martin.
    National Polarizing issue, i would venture most americans know Treyvon Martin, most wont know Chris Kyle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    National Polarizing issue, i would venture most americans know Treyvon Martin, most wont know Chris Kyle
    That's the problem. Our president panders to the audience rather than doing the right thing. An american hero dies and the response is "this isnt a big enough PR moment for our rock star president".... but if Snooki died.... liberals would throw a parade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    That's the problem. Our president panders to the audience rather than doing the right thing. An american hero dies and the response is "this isnt a big enough PR moment for our rock star president".... but if Snooki died.... liberals would throw a parade.
    It was a racially charged hotly debated and horribly reported story by the media. Thats what made it relevant.

    Im not saying i agree with it, im just saying theres a reason he responded, and im not sure it was because he is a "piece or shit" or that was his motivation behind it.

    It speaks more to his "score political points" more than anything. Hes never been a leader , he says things that ignite a argument, but rarely does anything to lead people to that place he wants to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Unfortunately heroes die pretty regularly. I understand Chris Kyle was a great sniper and died as a result of being a charitable person but I'm honestly not sure what should be the criteria for when the president should acknowledge the death of an individual. Thousands have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not have been as good of a shot or written any books but does that make them less deserving of recognition for their sacrifice. I'm open to other opinions and to learning more about Kyle.
    Yes I understand this, everybody that serves is a hero to me. I guess I am just seeing Chris Kyle as an icon and figured due to his status there should have been some recognition. I am not trying to get into if Obama is great or awful, his actions speak for himself. The topic was I think Chris Kyle deserved something from the Commander and Chief.

    Side note, has anybody read the book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by On_Her_Face View Post
    Yes I understand this, everybody that serves is a hero to me. I guess I am just seeing Chris Kyle as an icon and figured due to his status there should have been some recognition. I am not trying to get into if Obama is great or awful, his actions speak for himself. The topic was I think Chris Kyle deserved something from the Commander and Chief.
    I honestly had never heard of him until he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Unfortunately heroes die pretty regularly. I understand Chris Kyle was a great sniper and died as a result of being a charitable person but I'm honestly not sure what should be the criteria for when the president should acknowledge the death of an individual. Thousands have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They may not have been as good of a shot or written any books but does that make them less deserving of recognition for their sacrifice.
    This is the best answer you're gonna get.

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    All of this is on Facebook. As said, many great individuals die who fought for this country, in my opinion if Obama recognizes one, he will have to recognize them all or a whole other storm will develop. It sounds like a douche move yeah and it's hard for me to say that it's right, but I'm sure his PR person or whoever handles his moves in front of the public has a reason why.

    Do we as citizens show our respect for every killed US soldier? We should be the most thankful for those who keep us safe.
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    I agree with almost everything that has been posted here. Tragic that he died, but does that rise to the level of President publicly talking about it? I don't think so.

    Despite what you read on FB, Obama did not order the flags at half mast for Whitney Houston. I'm no fan of the President, but we can't blame him for everything...

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    Does anybody else think Obama is a worthless piece of shit?

    <raises hand>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Does anybody else think Obama is a worthless piece of shit?

    <raises hand>
    ~raises hand~


    Let me add the caveat that he shouldn't commented on the Treyvon case either... Or about the Cambridge police, or Sandra Fluke, or...

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    Here we go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    Here we go...
    get used to it.... its gonna last for at least a decade. I have a feeling our generation will be sitting in rocking chairs on our porch when we're 50 talking about how big of a piece of shit Obama was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    Here we go...
    Yep

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    Eh, edited because Sinfix is already too stressed.
    Last edited by Elbow; 02-13-2013 at 07:40 AM.

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    ^^^ I can read deleted comments.



    You did the right thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    ^^^ I can read deleted comments.



    You did the right thing.

    Simon's comments usually dont bother me too much. I've accepted that he's a pillow soft liberal apologist and his insults go in one ear and out the other as if it was a nagging house wife bitching from the kitchen about the trash not being taken out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Simon's comments usually dont bother me too much. I've accepted that he's a pillow soft liberal apologist and his insults go in one ear and out the other as if it was a nagging house wife bitching from the kitchen about the trash not being taken out.
    It was a troll post but someone may have seen it and thought I was serious.

    I like how I'm automatically classed as a liberal for having an open mind and not agreeing with all of your views. I am pillow soft, I'm a nice and caring person. Want a hug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    It was a troll post but someone may have seen it and thought I was serious.

    I like how I'm automatically classed as a liberal for having an open mind and not agreeing with all of your views. I am pillow soft, I'm a nice and caring person. Want a hug?
    I'm not the hugging type. I dont classify you because you dont agree with me..... lot of people here dont agree with me and i dont label them liberals. I certainly do not claim to be the "conservative voice" on this forum... especially since i do not even claim to be a conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I'm not the hugging type. I dont classify you because you dont agree with me..... lot of people here dont agree with me and i dont label them liberals. I certainly do not claim to be the "conservative voice" on this forum... especially since i do not even claim to be a conservative.
    Well not that I care to be called a liberal I just think its funny you always point someone out as a liberal if they see things a tad different. I think gun opinions are the big thing on if you determine someone as a liberal.

    No hugs? You gay.

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    The real heros don't do it for praise or remembrance. They could care less whats done for them in the afterlife. If you want to honor them live up to the standards and freedoms they sacrificed so much for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    The real heros don't do it for praise or remembrance. They could care less whats done for them in the afterlife. If you want to honor them live up to the standards and freedoms they sacrificed so much for.
    Amen to that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    The real heros don't do it for praise or remembrance. They could care less whats done for them in the afterlife. If you want to honor them live up to the standards and freedoms they sacrificed so much for.
    That is a totally different subject. I do agree though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On_Her_Face View Post
    That is a totally different subject. I do agree though.
    Not really, it was in direct response to your post. Soldiers don't give a damn about presidential recognition. Politicians use other's sacrifices to gain points in the public eye. We all know they don't actually give a shit about us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    Not really, it was in direct response to your post. Soldiers don't give a damn about presidential recognition. Politicians use other's sacrifices to gain points in the public eye. We all know they don't actually give a shit about us.
    If they cared, they wouldnt seek to remove everything theyve asked you to fight for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    Not really, it was in direct response to your post. Soldiers don't give a damn about presidential recognition. Politicians use other's sacrifices to gain points in the public eye. We all know they don't actually give a shit about us.
    Yeah the soldiers caring or not caring about presidential recognition is a different subject from the president giving recognition to somebody who I think deserved some type of recognition. I was agreeing that the real heroes do not do it for praise.

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    Here’s a funny fact about FactCheck.org: Barack Obama was Chairman of The Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 until 2000. The Challenge had to do with reforming Chicago public schools.

    But, it was funded by the same source that funds FactCheck.org: The Annenberg Foundation. If you go to FactCheck.org and look at the logo, you will see “ANNENBERG POLITICAL FACTCHECK.”

    You can read all of the documentation about this connection between Obama and the Annenberg organizations on Wikipedia: Chicago Annenberg Challenge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So…knowing this now…can you REALLY rely on FactCheck.org to tell you the “true” and “accurate” facts about anything regarding Obama and Joe Biden?

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    ^Exactly.


    "The Gestapo was specifically exempted from responsibility to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws. As early as 1935, however, a Prussian administrative court had ruled that the Gestapo's actions were not subject to judicial review."

    Now look at our country.

    1)Patriot Act
    2)National Defense Budget Act of 2012
    3)Extrajudicial Assassination of American Citizens
    4)Removal of the 2nd Amendment
    5)Manhattan Federal Judge Alvin Hellerstein has declined to hold the CIA in contempt for destroying videos that it had been ordered by the courts to preserve.


    This country's going to shit.

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    More white people voted for Obama than black people. Just thought I'd point that out.

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    I'm white and I voted for Obama.

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    I'm white and I voted for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    More white people voted for Obama than black people. Just thought I'd point that out.
    Yeah but 98% of the black vote went to Obama.



    I voted for Obama in his first election. I was so sick of the Bush administration and their policies. Especially the Patriot Act. Thought Obama would be different....


    Boy was I wrong.

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