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    i dont give 2 fucks who died, if my light is green, get the fuck out of the intersection. i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. Unless you're a person of some significance, i do not see the need for this. If your family members dont know where the funeral home is.... use mapquest like the rest of us, or buy a TomTom. The whole funeral process annoys me, but having to be stuck in traffic during rush hour so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights on the way to a funeral really pisses me off. How to these stupid fucking traditions still exist in the modern world? it's 2012 and people still pay 10s of thousands of dollars to have people buried in a wooden box. Pay thousands to have some random ass person play a song over a PA and allow you to sit in their room. What's the difference in a funeral chapel and the banquet room at the holiday inn? The entire process is exploitation, but either way.... if you believe in this tradition or not..... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GODDAMN ROAD!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
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    insult falls on def ears when said person does not believe in god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    insult falls on def ears when said person does not believe in god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
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    i dont give 2 fucks who died, if my light is green, get the fuck out of the intersection. i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. Unless you're a person of some significance, i do not see the need for this. If your family members dont know where the funeral home is.... use mapquest like the rest of us, or buy a TomTom. The whole funeral process annoys me, but having to be stuck in traffic during rush hour so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights on the way to a funeral really pisses me off. How to these stupid fucking traditions still exist in the modern world? it's 2012 and people still pay 10s of thousands of dollars to have people buried in a wooden box. Pay thousands to have some random ass person play a song over a PA and allow you to sit in their room. What's the difference in a funeral chapel and the banquet room at the holiday inn? The entire process is exploitation, but either way.... if you believe in this tradition or not..... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GODDAMN ROAD!!!
    Clearly, your parents did not teach you how to behave and have respect for traditions in society. To think that you are more important than the "75 cousins" is arrogance. First, how do you know that the person was not of significance? Who judges what impacts a person's life might have? Second, the dead will never again slow traffic down, so you can't be bothered to show a slight bit of respect?
    This attitude that I see with some people is appalling. Arrogance and lack of respect are character flaws. Luckily, they can be changed - if you want them to. Hopefully, as you grow older, you will continually review your actions and behavior, and will continue to improve your character throughout life.
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    Yeah, it sort of makes you a bad person. It's called respect, you clearly lack any. Which people who lack respect typically are not respected by others. Especially when you feel the need to take the time to post about it on an internet forum, I am guessing just to hear people say either you're a dick or you're a bad ass and give you reps. There's no other real reason to do it other than attention.

    People who lost a loved one deserve the right to get to the funeral all at the same time and have a smooth burial. It's typically not because people get "lost."

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Clearly, your parents did not teach you how to behave and have respect for traditions in society. To think that you are more important than the "75 cousins" is arrogance. First, how do you know that the person was not of significance? Who judges what impacts a person's life might have? Second, the dead will never again slow traffic down, so you can't be bothered to show a slight bit of respect?
    This attitude that I see with some people is appalling. Arrogance and lack of respect are character flaws. Luckily, they can be changed - if you want them to. Hopefully, as you grow older, you will continually review your actions and behavior, and will continue to improve your character throughout life.
    Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?
    #1 - We aren't in Africa, we are in the United States, and pulling over for a funeral is an American tradition. If you want African traditions, move to Africa. If you are residing in the United States, have respect and pull over.
    Don't go off on tangents.

    #2 - I said nothing about the funeral business. This is separate from tradition. Perhaps you should research family burials. In Georgia, you are allowed to perform burials on your own, as long as you stay within the state guidelines. If you want to build a coffin, and bury your dead on your own land, that is legally permissable.

    #3 - I've paid for funerals berfore, and have never spent $10K. Have you ever paid for a funeral? Not sure where you came up with that figure. The average is $6K from what I have read. Of course, you can DIY and save more - that your choice. Most people choose to spend the money, and focus their time on taking care of family needs.

    #4 - Funeral escort police are not showing respect - they are directing traffic, to prevent accidents. An accident would slow you down even more, and you would be on here complaining about that. Most people that go to a funeral do not know where the burial site is, and the likelihood that they would try to run a red light trying to keep up the car in front is higher. Police are there to help YOU get where YOU are going. BTW - Those high funeral fees help pay for the police escort.
    Do you think that driving on the roads is right? It is not. Do some legal homework.

    #5 - Funeral processions are not affiliated with religion. You show ignorance once again.

    #6 - If you don't like American customs, move out of the country. Don't be surprised though where you find that everyplace has traditions and customs.

    Here is a book that addresses family burials and has a section on GA laws. http://www.amazon.com/Caring-Dead-Yo.../dp/0942679210
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    #1 - We aren't in Africa, we are in the United States, and pulling over for a funeral is an American tradition. If you want African traditions, move to Africa. If you are residing in the United States, have respect and pull over.
    Don't go off on tangents.

    #2 - I said nothing about the funeral business. This is separate from tradition. Perhaps you should research family burials. In Georgia, you are allowed to perform burials on your own, as long as you stay within the state guidelines. If you want to build a coffin, and bury your dead on your own land, that is legally permissable.

    #3 - I've paid for funerals berfore, and have never spent $10K. Have you ever paid for a funeral? Not sure where you came up with that figure. The average is $6K from what I have read. Of course, you can DIY and save more - that your choice. Most people choose to spend the money, and focus their time on taking care of family needs.

    #4 - Funeral escort police are not showing respect - they are directing traffic, to prevent accidents. An accident would slow you down even more, and you would be on here complaining about that. Most people that go to a funeral do not know where the burial site is, and the likelihood that they would try to run a red light trying to keep up the car in front is higher. Police are there to help YOU get where YOU are going. BTW - Those high funeral fees help pay for the police escort.
    Do you think that driving on the roads is right? It is not. Do some legal homework.

    #5 - Funeral processions are not affiliated with religion. You show ignorance once again.

    #6 - If you don't like American customs, move out of the country. Don't be surprised though where you find that everyplace has traditions and customs.

    Here is a book that addresses family burials and has a section on GA laws. http://www.amazon.com/Caring-Dead-Yo.../dp/0942679210
    #1 i dont follow ridiculous traditions regardless of my location.

    #2 And if those people were burying their loved ones on their own land, they wouldnt be blocking traffic and i would have nothing to complain about.

    #3 "According to FuneralTips.com, in 2009 the average funeral cost is around $7,500. While the casket alone can range between $600 and $10,000, the average cost was about $2,300. The basic service fee for the funeral director was $1,400, plus $600 for embalming, $400 for calling hours, $450 for a ceremony, $625 for transportation and $500 for miscellaneous expenses including writing and placing the obituary, obtaining the proper permits and providing a register book." Chose to do whatever you wish with your time and money. If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it.

    #4 Same thing could happen to me if im in a hurry because im late for work or trying to get somewhere. The convoy delaying my travel by 20 minutes made me continue to my destination at an increased rate of speed to maintain schedule, no police escorted me for safety. Clearly the police agree with me since in a lot of areas around the united states they are beginning to stop these services.

    Do some homework? ok.... "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." [emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579

    #5 The Middle Paleolithic (Middle Stone Age) spans the period from 300,000 to 50,000 years ago. Some of the earliest significant evidence of religious practices dates from this period. Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice since, as Philip Lieberman suggests, it may signify a "concern for the dead that transcends daily life."[3] Though disputed, evidence suggests that the Neanderthals were the first hominids to intentionally bury the dead, doing so in shallow graves along with stone tools and animal bones.[4] Exemplary sites include Shanidar in Iraq, Kebara Cave in Israel and Krapina in Croatia. Some scholars, however argue that these bodies may have been disposed of for secular reasons.[5] According to recent archeological findings from H. heidelbergensis sites in Atapuerca, humans may have begun burying their dead much earlier during the late Lower Paleolithic but this theory is widely questioned in the scientific community. Cut marks on Neanderthal bones from various sites such as Combe-Grenal and Abri Moula in France may imply that the Neanderthals like some contemporary human cultures may have practiced excarnation for religious reasons.

    #6 1st amendment - The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

    I am using my freedom of speech to address my grievances against an establishment of religion using the law to interfere with my right to peacefully assemble at my destination as scheduled.

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    How do you know this funeral wasn't for a police or other worker like that? Six police cars does seem like a bit, I only ever see one leading.

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    So your eager ass couldn't wait few minutes for convoy to pass by in a safe manner, BUT here you are sitting behind a computer for hours, wasting your time doing nothing but complaining about it. You sir are a waste of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    #1 i dont follow ridiculous traditions regardless of my location.

    #2 And if those people were burying their loved ones on their own land, they wouldnt be blocking traffic and i would have nothing to complain about.

    #3 "According to FuneralTips.com, in 2009 the average funeral cost is around $7,500. While the casket alone can range between $600 and $10,000, the average cost was about $2,300. The basic service fee for the funeral director was $1,400, plus $600 for embalming, $400 for calling hours, $450 for a ceremony, $625 for transportation and $500 for miscellaneous expenses including writing and placing the obituary, obtaining the proper permits and providing a register book." Chose to do whatever you wish with your time and money. If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it.

    #4 Same thing could happen to me if im in a hurry because im late for work or trying to get somewhere. The convoy delaying my travel by 20 minutes made me continue to my destination at an increased rate of speed to maintain schedule, no police escorted me for safety. Clearly the police agree with me since in a lot of areas around the united states they are beginning to stop these services.

    Do some homework? ok.... "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." [emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579

    #5 The Middle Paleolithic (Middle Stone Age) spans the period from 300,000 to 50,000 years ago. Some of the earliest significant evidence of religious practices dates from this period. Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice since, as Philip Lieberman suggests, it may signify a "concern for the dead that transcends daily life."[3] Though disputed, evidence suggests that the Neanderthals were the first hominids to intentionally bury the dead, doing so in shallow graves along with stone tools and animal bones.[4] Exemplary sites include Shanidar in Iraq, Kebara Cave in Israel and Krapina in Croatia. Some scholars, however argue that these bodies may have been disposed of for secular reasons.[5] According to recent archeological findings from H. heidelbergensis sites in Atapuerca, humans may have begun burying their dead much earlier during the late Lower Paleolithic but this theory is widely questioned in the scientific community. Cut marks on Neanderthal bones from various sites such as Combe-Grenal and Abri Moula in France may imply that the Neanderthals like some contemporary human cultures may have practiced excarnation for religious reasons.

    #6 1st amendment - The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

    I am using my freedom of speech to address my grievances against an establishment of religion using the law to interfere with my right to peacefully assemble at my destination as scheduled.
    You brought up traditions from outside of our continent as though it would support you.

    You think that you own the road because you pay taxes? your tax money goes into a general fund, part of which pays for road work. You do not own it, it is for the common good, and "75 cousins" are more of the common than one of you.

    So, now you drop 25% of the average cost off....

    Nothing says that they have to have a home burial, just that they have the right to. If you want to bury your dead on your own land, I have not problem with it. If I choose to pay to have mine buried, then leave me and mine alone to do so.

    "If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it." - Evidently you do, as you started this thread.

    If you choose to speed, then that is on you. You can't use your statement earlier as a defense, but just to humor you - "75 cousins" speeding through a light sounds to be more dangerous than your one car.

    Thompson vs Smith was about driver licensing. It has nothing to do with you not being delayed by a funeral procession. The police are not telling you that you cannot use the roadways, they are simply directing traffic. To think that you should never be delayed on the road is idiotic. I suppose that you will next say that you should not have to pull to the side for emergency vehicles either, as they slow you down from getting to the liquor store. Like I said, go study up.

    Burial services are not tied to Christianity, Buddism, Hinduism, etc. Most Americans, including atheists, bury their dead. You have no common sense if you cannot understand that.

    You have the right to free speech, but you have no clue about what the First Amendment is about, based upon your statement. Police escorts for funerals are not an establishment of any state-sponsored religion. You seek to stop police escorts and thus block people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead? You are looking to restrict those that have religious beliefs that they must bury their dead? See, I can turn that around also.

    If you really believe the garbage that you are spewing, you are beyond hope, and reflect poorly upon your family.
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    Does it make you a bad person because you choose not to yield to a funeral line? No.

    Does it make you an inconsiderate fucking asshole because you can't show a simple sign of respect for a family that lost a loved one? Sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. ....so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights...

    Let's break this down a little further.

    One car generally will have an average of two people - some cars will have more, and some will have only one person.

    If the procession is very loose, then you would have 1 car every 3 seconds starting to enter the intersection at at time. That's 20 cars every minute entering the intersection. Again, that's if they aren't following each other closely. Generally, processions are fairly slow, and cars bunch up, but we will try to keep the number lower here.

    If the police took 1 minute to initiate the block on the intersection, and to get out of the intersection (generally, it shouldn't take 15 seconds), and allowing 1 minute per side (4 sides = 4 minutes) for the intersection to clear after the procession has passed, then you have 15 minutes of procession.

    15 minutes at 1 car per 3 seconds entering the intersection is 300 cars, carrying an average of 600 people. That is a really big funeral, and probably not someone who is insignificant. Do you know for certain that 600+ people would show up for your funeral?

    Care to rephrase how long you were actually delayed at the light? Sounds to me like you might be embelishing the amount of time that you were really delayed.
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    Longest I've ever sat is about 5 minutes waiting and that was a pretty long line of cars... Not really a big deal considering I always leave in enough time to make an appointment..

    Now traffic cause by the cluster fuck in Atlanta I'd complain about, but not someones death...

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    Just make sure before you die you tell everyone not to attend your funeral so it will go faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You brought up traditions from outside of our continent as though it would support you.

    You think that you own the road because you pay taxes? your tax money goes into a general fund, part of which pays for road work. You do not own it, it is for the common good, and "75 cousins" are more of the common than one of you.

    So, now you drop 25% of the average cost off....

    Nothing says that they have to have a home burial, just that they have the right to. If you want to bury your dead on your own land, I have not problem with it. If I choose to pay to have mine buried, then leave me and mine alone to do so.

    "If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it." - Evidently you do, as you started this thread.

    If you choose to speed, then that is on you. You can't use your statement earlier as a defense, but just to humor you - "75 cousins" speeding through a light sounds to be more dangerous than your one car.

    Thompson vs Smith was about driver licensing. It has nothing to do with you not being delayed by a funeral procession. The police are not telling you that you cannot use the roadways, they are simply directing traffic. To think that you should never be delayed on the road is idiotic. I suppose that you will next say that you should not have to pull to the side for emergency vehicles either, as they slow you down from getting to the liquor store. Like I said, go study up.

    Burial services are not tied to Christianity, Buddism, Hinduism, etc. Most Americans, including atheists, bury their dead. You have no common sense if you cannot understand that.

    You have the right to free speech, but you have no clue about what the First Amendment is about, based upon your statement. Police escorts for funerals are not an establishment of any state-sponsored religion. You seek to stop police escorts and thus block people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead? You are looking to restrict those that have religious beliefs that they must bury their dead? See, I can turn that around also.

    If you really believe the garbage that you are spewing, you are beyond hope, and reflect poorly upon your family.
    I dont own the road. I share it. Nothing i do on the public road delays anyone else. Light is red, i stop. Stop sign, i stop. I never go cruising with 50 of my friends and ignore traffic signals.

    The information provided said the avg cost of a funeral was $7500 in 2009 with a coffin alone potentially costing as high as $10k. I dont think that there's argument against the idea that the cost of funeral services greatly out weigh their value.

    If the funeral convoys stopped and red lights, they wouldnt have interfered with my travel and i wouldnt have had any issue. Are you even reading? Doesnt appear so for someone so confident in questioning another's intelligence.

    There's no need for the 75 cousins to be in a hurry. If they endanger themselves, that is their own fault. Everyone has some place to be, yet we all have to obey traffic laws and travel safely. Funeral appointment isnt an excuse to drive recklessly. Leave early like the rest of us.

    I gladly pull over for emergency vehicles as i respect their need for urgency and the lives theyre attempting to save in addition to the risk they have to their own. There's absolutely no relation between that and a group of people participating in a (i guess debatable) religious ceremony. No need for someone who passed away to be in a hurry. I understand the need for an ambulance to be in a hurry.

    You're right, if i chose to speed, its my fault. Same for the 75 cousins if they chose to ignore traffic signs in an effort to arrive at the same time.

    There's no law against me being delayed on public streets, however.... i have a right to use public streets, i must follow the laws of the road and expect everyone else to do the same. I dont feel a (debatabale) religious custom is more important than anyone else's need to get somewhere on time. Maybe stuck in traffic there was a soldier going home to see his wife and kids for the first time in a year, maybe someone who had been unemployed for a year was on their way to a job interview, maybe a single mother who was driving a car without air conditioning had her toddler on board... i can think of a million reasons that are more justified than rushing a group of people to a funeral home so they can have their guilt exploited by a 15 billion $ a year business that uses religious ignorance to pressure people into thinking that spending their hard earned money on a burial ceremony is an honor to the deceased.

    Burial ceremony has multiple religious ties and origins, i honestly dont understand how you're denying this.

    I do not wish to stop people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead. Even though i am an Atheist, i respect people of all religions rights to do anything they please. They can put together a convoy of 150 cars and travel to the park for a prayer meeting to drink cookies and punch.... that's perfectly fine... hell, i may stop and share a cookie with them...... however........................................... .... i expect every single one of them to stop at red lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Just make sure before you die you tell everyone not to attend your funeral so it will go faster.
    You say that jokingly, but i already have. When i die, i wish to be cremated without any type of formal ceremony. Unlike Christians, i value the life that takes place before death more than the supposed one after. I would hate to see my friends and family waste their money to have me buried in a box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You say that jokingly, but i already have. When i die, i wish to be cremated without any type of formal ceremony. Unlike Christians, i value the life that takes place before death than the supposed one after. I would hate to see my friends and family waste their money to have me buried in a box.
    Great maybe we can mix your ashes with some pigeon feed then have you shat out all over the world lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Let's break this down a little further.

    One car generally will have an average of two people - some cars will have more, and some will have only one person.

    If the procession is very loose, then you would have 1 car every 3 seconds starting to enter the intersection at at time. That's 20 cars every minute entering the intersection. Again, that's if they aren't following each other closely. Generally, processions are fairly slow, and cars bunch up, but we will try to keep the number lower here.

    If the police took 1 minute to initiate the block on the intersection, and to get out of the intersection (generally, it shouldn't take 15 seconds), and allowing 1 minute per side (4 sides = 4 minutes) for the intersection to clear after the procession has passed, then you have 15 minutes of procession.

    15 minutes at 1 car per 3 seconds entering the intersection is 300 cars, carrying an average of 600 people. That is a really big funeral, and probably not someone who is insignificant. Do you know for certain that 600+ people would show up for your funeral?

    Care to rephrase how long you were actually delayed at the light? Sounds to me like you might be embelishing the amount of time that you were really delayed.
    Columbus is one of the main train stops in the southeast. There's a train parking lot of whatever you would call that right in the middle of columbus with trains entering and exiting from nearly every direction. This all happens right in the middle of all the most highly traveled roads in the business district. Seeing the trains coming and going changes my course on a daily basis and under the right circumstances they back up traffic rather quickly. I add 15 minutes or so to my expected travel time to account for this every single day.

    In this particular instance, traffic was already bottle necked before the convoy even arrived. The police cars didnt have clear path to the intersection. I had to listen to police cars laying on their horns and sirens moving stopped traffic out of their way as i sat parked in a lane facing towards would be on coming traffic to move out of their way. After the funeral convoy passed the police hand directed the scattered traffic out of the intersection. By the time i got to move, a train was passing the road ahead of me and i had to take an alternate route around it (which im used to) but could have potentially avoided.

    I had 45 minutes to get where i was going, a course that i usually allow 30 minutes to travel and on a good day can travel in 15 minutes. I had to cancel one of my stops and arrived where i needed to be with 5 minutes to spare.


    and to be honest............. i'm actually sandbagging on how big of a cluster fuck this really was, because if i gave the full details of this, it would simply sound unbelievable and made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Great maybe we can mix your ashes with some pigeon feed then have you shat out all over the world lol
    That would be a great honor!!! to me, spreading someone's ashes in a place of significance honors them more than burying them on a commercial business location. I dont see much of a difference between being buried in a funeral plot or being buried behind a walmart. One commercial property vs another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Does it make you a bad person because you choose not to yield to a funeral line? No.

    Does it make you an inconsiderate fucking asshole because you can't show a simple sign of respect for a family that lost a loved one? Sure.
    You will never see me deny the fact that i am an asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I gladly pull over for emergency vehicles as i respect their need for urgency and the lives theyre attempting to save in addition to the risk they have to their own.



    Would you have pulled over for the convoy to the left of the picture once they got off of the interstate?
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    Damn anyone who inconveniences you for some comparatively minuscule amount of time, that "20 minutes" is such a waste compared to the approx 41 million that you'll probably be around for. How often do you actually have to stop for a funeral procession? I can't even remember the last time it happened for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post


    Would you have pulled over for the convoy to the left of the picture once they got off of the interstate?
    Stated above that i dont have a problem pulling over for emergency workers.

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    That convoy was a funeral procession for a Grady EMT that was killed on his way home by a drunk driver not very long ago.

    What makes this different from any other funeral procession?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got Milk? View Post
    So your eager ass couldn't wait few minutes for convoy to pass by in a safe manner, BUT here you are sitting behind a computer for hours, wasting your time doing nothing but complaining about it. You sir are a waste of life.
    I worked 68 hours this week in 5 days. In between posting on the forum today, i did some work on my vehicle, planted 35 hedges, have been attempting to clean my house. If i want to sit here all day and cup my balls in my hand while playing on my computer, i'm free to do so. Nothing im doing here is holding up traffic......... unless you're at an intersection texting your response to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I worked 68 hours this week in 5 days. In between posting on the forum today, i did some work on my vehicle, planted 35 hedges, have been attempting to clean my house. If i want to sit here all day and cup my balls in my hand while playing on my computer, i'm free to do so. Nothing im doing here is holding up traffic......... unless you're at an intersection texting your response to me.

    Kid, stop please, you are just making a fool out of your self.

    Here you are complaining about a convoy stopping traffic, a convoy carrying a man who probably saved lives of hundreds. Are your serious? In Atlanta, you are found to be stuck in traffic either way, for hours, and here you are complaining about your precious 20 minutes, which I imagine you're over exaggerating. You worked 68 hours in five days? Who is at fault that you have a crappy job and have to work over time to make a living, get over your self. Show your respect, and I'm not talking about respect in religious view, but respect as a human being to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    That convoy was a funeral procession for a Grady EMT that was killed on his way home by a drunk driver not very long ago.

    What makes this different from any other funeral procession?
    I understand what youre trying to accomplish by bringing up a sensitive topic that questions my stance on the overall matter.

    So i guess i'll do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Got Milk? View Post
    Kid, stop please, you are just making a fool out of your self.

    Here you are complaining about a convoy stopping traffic, a convoy carrying a man who probably saved lives of hundreds. Are your serious? In Atlanta, you are found to be stuck in traffic either way, for hours, and here you are complaining about your precious 20 minutes, which I imagine you're over exaggerating. You worked 68 hours in five days? Who is at fault that you have a crappy job and have to work over time to make a living, get over your self. Show your respect, and I'm not talking about respect in religious view, but respect as a human being to another.
    Why in the world would you assume the funeral was for someone that saved hundreds of lives??? well, i guess if you put it that way...... the funeral could have been for captain america or GI Joe.... lets just plug in whatever person makes our argument more compelling. I dont have to work overtime to make a living and my work schedule was referenced for no other reason that an explanation for my desire to be lazy or be on the pc for any extended amount of time. When work needs to be done, some people do it. I guess nurses and doctors should walk out of the hospital @ 40 hours since that's the american way and we refuse to work "crappy jobs". My 20 minutes are precious, regardless of how i decide to use them.

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    Why not just have the viewing at the burial site. Seems to be a lot easier especially if you have "75" cousins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Why not just have the viewing at the burial site. Seems to be a lot easier especially if you have "75" cousins.

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    The same reason Mcdonalds asks you "do you wants fries with that?"

    Funeral service is a business, they have no desire to reduce any level of service or fee required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    The same reason Mcdonalds asks you "do you wants fries with that?"

    Funeral service is a business, they have no desire to reduce any level of service or fee required.
    Lol yeah true.

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    and who decides who "someone of significance" is?

    who is anybody to say that someone is more important than the other?

    i could give 2 shits who a random person is that is dead, but thye have a family and friends that love the shit out of them, jsut as i would hope people would take my death as a significant event in some peoples lives.

    i dont care about ppl in traffic, yeah it should all be at the same place, id rather inquire to your above mentioned significance statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfwit View Post
    and who decides who "someone of significance" is?

    who is anybody to say that someone is more important than the other?

    i could give 2 shits who a random person is that is dead, but thye have a family and friends that love the shit out of them, jsut as i would hope people would take my death as a significant event in some peoples lives.

    i dont care about ppl in traffic, yeah it should all be at the same place, id rather inquire to your above mentioned significance statement
    i agree... so the funeral convoy and guests getting to their destination isnt any more important than anyone else on the road that day. Everything people wish to do could be done without the assistance of police escort or stopping traffic. They can still hold ceremony, travel together, ect.... i dont see the significance in their schedule being valued over another's. The funeral service using police escort to speed up one of their services provided (at cost) would be no different than FedEx using police escort to help them deliver packages faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    i agree... so the funeral convoy and guests getting to their destination isnt any more important than anyone else on the road that day. Everything people wish to do could be done without the assistance of police escort or stopping traffic. They can still hold ceremony, travel together, ect.... i dont see the significance in their schedule being valued over another's. The funeral service using police escort to speed up one of their services provided (at cost) would be no different than FedEx using police escort to help them deliver packages faster.
    right, but in your first post you said it was not good to hold traffic unless it was a person of significance... sooo your actually saying by agreeing with me that every funeral procession should be like that one
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    The problem I see with your video posted above is the people associated with that outrage has the same mentality you have. Just as you say "Why should I have to sit?" is the same as those officers saying "Why should we have to escort?"

    That video also has no bearing nor relevance on the topic at hand. You say it's a sensitive topic but what's so sensitive about it?
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