The Death Sentence...

**TSiFTW** · 11-10-2009, 10:02 AM

Fuck just put him in general population in a prison in the south, unprotected. He wont last 10 minutes.

**Greddypacked** · 11-10-2009, 10:02 AM

NO THAT GUY DESERVES TO BE EXECUTED. HE KILLED THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST DOING THEIR EVERYDAY CHORES OR ACTIVITIES. SNIPING PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS IMMORALE.

**90_ACCORD** · 11-10-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

thats too nice for the shit he did though

well for the people that dont believe in lethal injection. the bullet thing is for them

**TSiFTW** · 11-10-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by 90_ACCORD

well for the people that dont believe in lethal injection. the bullet thing is for them

It's not that I don't believe in it, I just say gut the fucker. Save the morgue the extra work.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Greddypacked

NO THAT GUY DESERVES TO BE EXECUTED. HE KILLED THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST DOING THEIR EVERYDAY CHORES OR ACTIVITIES. SNIPING PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS IMMORALE.

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

**90_ACCORD** · 11-10-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

The reason why they have multiple guys shoot someone is so no one has the guilty conscience of killing someone. Whether you feel the person deserved to be killed or not, you don't want to have to live with the fact you killed someone. If there is five guys with guns, they give four blanks and one guy the real bullet, but don't tell any of them.

So... the people doing the killing started to realize that the blanks don't give as much kick back as the real bullets. Then some people had to go to counseling sessions, because they couldn't deal with the fact of knowing they killed someone whether the person was bad or good.

im sure there is some cop out there that could live with that. which would probably mean he shouldnt be a cop if he is ok with killing someone.

**90_ACCORD** · 11-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by TSiFTW

It's not that I don't believe in it, I just say gut the fucker. Save the morgue the extra work.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by 90_ACCORD

im sure there is some cop out there that could live with that. which would probably mean he shouldnt be a cop if he is ok with killing someone.

But one person? That makes you just as bad. Killing someone.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by TSiFTW

It's not that I don't believe in it, I just say gut the fucker. Save the morgue the extra work.

There is no way you truly believe in what you're saying lol, people saying things like this are on the same level as the killer, they just lack the balls.

**Greddypacked** · 11-10-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

LOL... if he can snipe people and hide from the law he knows he is morally wrong. Oh about the rapist, hannibal lector sh!t... THIS SNIPER KILLED F>CKING 10 PEOPLE... that's considered a mass murder

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**TSiFTW** · 11-10-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

There is no way you truly believe in what you're saying lol, people saying things like this are on the same level as the killer, they just lack the balls.

Actually I fully believe in it. I know it'll never happen, but I would love it if it did. Piece of shit people should be treated like, well, pieces of shit.

**Kasper** · 11-10-2009, 10:11 AM

Yeah i really dont understand some people.. IF someone walked into your house, or even on the street just walked up to you and the people you loved the most in this world, and just killed them and made you watch. then walked away. and you had the chance to determin weather he lived or died, you cannot tell me that you would stand there and say, "well i'll house him, and feed him and give him free tv for the rest of his natural life"

And 9 times outa 10 life in prison doesnt mean natural life. in most cases its 25 years. and a kid thats 18-25 years old will be out long before hes dead. and for what. cause we housed him in a protective castle for the last couple of years, gave him something to eat, housed him, and let him watch TV all day.

Its people like that that say "well we'll just give him life" that drive me completely crazy. he has killed someones family. and your basically telling him its ok. im sorry but if people dont relize that our bodies are made to adapt to our surroundings so long term prison is what they will adapt to and become home. it'll just be another day for them. except there getting a free ride.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:11 AM

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

**Benefit** · 11-10-2009, 10:11 AM

this thread has alot of dumb shit already posted in it, lets see what happens next

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Greddypacked

LOL... if he can snipe people and hide from the law he knows he is morally wrong. Oh about the rapist, hannibal lector sh!t... THIS SNIPER KILLED F>CKING 10 PEOPLE... that's considered a mass murder

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Yes, but i don't see a problem if a person knows what they did was morally wrong. it's the people who think what they did was okay. those are the ones who need to be murdered.

**TSiFTW** · 11-10-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

You are fully correct. However some thrive on it and fight for what they truly believe in. Just as most of the people they are fighting. Kill or be killed. Eye for a mother fucking eye.

**Greddypacked** · 11-10-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

I dont see anywhere in that article they say that sniper is ex military.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Benefit

this thread has alot of dumb shit already posted in it, lets see what happens next

You just made it dumb, it's been a civil conversation so far.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

You are pretty much saying hold his hand and give him a fucking hug and everything will be ok....he just had a bad day and decided to murder innocent people. Send him to a psychiatrist so he can cry about how his parents beat him, give him some drugs that only act as a mask for the fucked up shit hes got going on in his head, and put him back out into the world.

FUCK THAT! Everyone who does something like this and thinks about it after the fact goes for the whole insanity BS

what a crock of shit. The man has issues, issues where it seems cool in his brain to kill people who did nothing wrong.

How would you feel if you got a phone call saying someone you loved had been shot in the head while getting gas or picking up some food? Thats pretty much what this fool did. He doesn't deserve to breathe the same air everyone else does.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by TSiFTW

Actually I fully believe in it. I know it'll never happen, but I would love it if it did. Piece of shit people should be treated like, well, pieces of shit.

Then that makes whoever tears his guts out a piece of shit too...what's the difference? He's killed more. You're killing him. It's just a shitty circle of shit.

Someone has to keep morals in line and what's right or wrong. Killing is wrong in it's simple form, killing a living human is killing, the reason WHY you're killing doesn't matter. In the end you took a life. It doesn't have to be fair.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Greddypacked

I dont see anywhere in that article they say that sniper is ex military.

I used that as an example for the firing squad and why it's wrong sometimes.

**Greddypacked** · 11-10-2009, 10:18 AM

OH and for the people that dont believe he should get the death sentence. This would give more criminals a huge idea on... OH so if I go a killing people and act all crazy like im insane I would get free housing, food, and tv. also eh.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I used that as an example for the firing squad and why it's wrong sometimes.

The firing squad for this guy should consist of the family of those who he killed.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Greddypacked

OH and for the people that dont believe he should get the death sentence. This would give more criminals a huge idea on... OH so if I go a killing people and act all crazy like im insane I would get free housing, food, and tv. also eh.

X2

"Oh look....i feel like killing some random people today....I just gotta talk about aliens coming to get me and eat my own shit in front of people so I can get away!"

**Skorcher** · 11-10-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

Killing is wrong in it's simple form, killing a living human is killing, the reason WHY you're killing doesn't matter. In the end you took a life. It doesn't have to be fair.

I think this is the part I disagree with. If they are acting like an animal and not a human being, they should be treated as one.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

The firing squad for this guy should consist of the family of those who he killed.

$50 they wouldn't do it...

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

You are pretty much saying hold his hand and give him a fucking hug and everything will be ok....he just had a bad day and decided to murder innocent people. Send him to a psychiatrist so he can cry about how his parents beat him, give him some drugs that only act as a mask for the fucked up shit hes got going on in his head, and put him back out into the world.

FUCK THAT! Everyone who does something like this and thinks about it after the fact goes for the whole insanity BS

what a crock of shit. The man has issues, issues where it seems cool in his brain to kill people who did nothing wrong.

How would you feel if you got a phone call saying someone you loved had been shot in the head while getting gas or picking up some food? Thats pretty much what this fool did. He doesn't deserve to breathe the same air everyone else does.

I didn't say send him to a psychiatrist or put him back in the world. I wouldn't want that shit about me. By how he killed and how frequent, he didn't seem to care and that he didn't think it was wrong. He thought he could hold life and death in his own hands. And no one has that power. I personally think he should have the death sentence after reading the article, but i don't find lethal injection to be morally right.

You are saying that he has issues in his brain where as the other person was saying that he knew what he did was wrong. LOL it's either one or the other. it's not both.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

Then that makes whoever tears his guts out a piece of shit too...what's the difference? He's killed more. You're killing him. It's just a shitty circle of shit.

Someone has to keep morals in line and what's right or wrong. Killing is wrong in it's simple form, killing a living human is killing, the reason WHY you're killing doesn't matter. In the end you took a life. It doesn't have to be fair.

I dont see why people like him should be viewed as a human being like the rest of us though.

**TSiFTW** · 11-10-2009, 10:22 AM

If it was my family member I would take your 50 bucks.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

$50 they wouldn't do it...

You are probably right....most of them would chicken out. The way I see it though....thats my brother...sister....girlfriend....mom....dad....wh oever. Dont fuck with my family...ya know?

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

I dont see why people like him should be viewed as a human being like the rest of us though.

Because he lived like a human just like the rest of us, he made a bad decision, and fucked up. I AM NOT saying anything he did was ok or should be treated nicely. I just don't think it's the governments right to say eh, we are gonna kill you too.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

The firing squad for this guy should consist of the family of those who he killed.

Does it really make them right? To kill also? Just puts them on his level... well maybe not completely.

Originally Posted by simontibbett

$50 they wouldn't do it...

Exactly. Like I said earlier, there's a difference between wanting a certain person dead and actually DOING it.

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I didn't say send him to a psychiatrist or put him back in the world. I wouldn't want that shit about me. By how he killed and how frequent, he didn't seem to care and that he didn't think it was wrong. He thought he could hold life and death in his own hands. And no one has that power. I personally think he should have the death sentence after reading the article, but i don't find lethal injection to be morally right.

You are saying that he has issues in his brain where as the other person was saying that he knew what he did was wrong. LOL it's either one or the other. it's not both.

Ahhh...Gotcha

How is lethal injection so wrong though? (i ask because I dont know)

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

You are probably right....most of them would chicken out. The way I see it though....thats my brother...sister....girlfriend....mom....dad....wh oever. Dont fuck with my family...ya know?

I wouldn't do it, I don't think anyone in here posting would do it when it came down to it. The killer did it easily, that makes him sick, anyone who could just shoot and kill someone without feeling anything has something wrong. I personally think if I killed someone I would feel worse then before.

I'd shoot them in the knee caps or something to give them some pain. You shoot, kill, then what? It's over. You're stuck here feeling like shit still and they're no more.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:25 AM

I personally think all the freaks should be all unloaded on a deserted island and let them fend for themselves. Real normal people have the ability to form real thoughts. It seems to caveman that you have to resort to killing other people to get your rocks off.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

Ahhh...Gotcha

How is lethal injection so wrong though? (i ask because I dont know)

I bet her answer is what my girlfriend told me the other day, but I will let her tell.

**Elbow** · 11-10-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I personally think all the freaks should be all unloaded on a deserted island and let them fend for themselves. Real normal people have the ability to form real thoughts. It seems to caveman that you have to resort to killing other people to get your rocks off.

I agree, that makes sense too, I like the island idea lol.

Awww Benefit negative repped me for this thread. HE'S SO CUTE!

**oneSLOWex** · 11-10-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

Because he lived like a human just like the rest of us, he made a bad decision, and fucked up. I AM NOT saying anything he did was ok or should be treated nicely. I just don't think it's the governments right to say eh, we are gonna kill you too.

IMO he gave up his right as a human being taking those lives.

In some cases I agree...the government should not be able to make the decision. In this guys case, I agree with their decision as I believe, if left up to the families, the decision would be the same.

Originally Posted by Buttons

Does it really make them right? To kill also? Just puts them on his level... well maybe not completely.

Yes, by all means....he is no longer some innocent person going on about his daily life.

**Skorcher** · 11-10-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Buttons

I personally think all the freaks should be all unloaded on a deserted island and let them fend for themselves. Real normal people have the ability to form real thoughts. It seems to caveman that you have to resort to killing other people to get your rocks off.

This reminds me of the idea George Carlin used to talk about.

**Buttons** · 11-10-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by oneSLOWex

Ahhh...Gotcha

How is lethal injection so wrong though? (i ask because I dont know)

There's an oath that doctors have to take that they will do no harm. Well that's fine and dandy, but then comes lethal injection. You have (well i forgot what their names are) who have little medical training. They can miss a vein. The worst part of all, they don't give the correct dose. Doctors would be great at being able to give the correct dose, but if you have no training as so, you can't possibly know. Well there's a lot of money that goes into killing someone by lethal injection just for it not to work. Also, sometimes the person doesn't die by it, but just screams in agony. I rather he just starve to death on a deserted island

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