The Death Sentence...

[Total_Blender]

Prime example, here in Knoxville a few years ago etc.

When society counters killing with more killing, it really reduces society to the level of the criminals it is trying to condemn. I would think life without any possibility of parole would be acceptable in that circumstance. On a personal level its not very gratifying, but it does get the perpetrators off the streets and that's what the main intent of the system is.

Besides that, the death penalty is just about the only punishment that is un-reversable. Innocent people have been killed by the States, just the possibility of that happening at all makes the case against the death penalty in my mind. According to the leading authority on this subject, Dr. Wik E. Pedia, at least 15 people have been wrongly executed in the US since 1992.

[oneSLOWex]

When society counters killing with more killing, it really reduces society to the level of the criminals it is trying to condemn. I would think life without any possibility of parole would be acceptable in that circumstance. On a personal level its not very gratifying, but it does get the perpetrators off the streets and that's what the main intent of the system is.

Besides that, the death penalty is just about the only punishment that is un-reversable. Innocent people have been killed by the States, just the possibility of that happening at all makes the case against the death penalty in my mind. According to the leading authority on this subject, Dr. Wik E. Pedia, at least 15 people have been wrongly executed in the US since 1992.

Why pay for the ones who are guilty to live for nothing, comfortable or not?

[Total_Blender]

Why pay for the ones who are guilty to live for nothing, comfortable or not?

The cost of all the legal red-tape associated with executing a prisoner runs about even with the costs of housing that prisoner for life without parole. Court proceedings can sometimes total tens of thousands of dollars per day. Also, the added cost of operating a "death row" apart from the general population. I'm not sure what the execution itself costs, but I'm sure it ain't cheap.

[90_ACCORD]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091110/...iper_execution

Sick ass people IMO. "Why shouldn't I watch him take his last breath?"

UM BECAUSE IT'S MORALLY WRONG.

I don't think the death sentence should be around, NOBODY can tell me my life is over. If I was in that matter, I would go ape shit and kill every person I could in the room or at least go out with a bang.

he kinda decided when those peoples lives he took would be over so i dont see a difference in doing it to him.

[Elbow]

he kinda decided when those peoples lives he took would be over so i dont see a difference in doing it to him.

That you will be on his level.

I see it as regular citizens deal with shit, if someone personally went after him and killed him, it wouldn't be as big as a deal.

If the government decides, it's different in my book.

[90_ACCORD]

That you will be on his level.

I see it as regular citizens deal with shit, if someone personally went after him and killed him, it wouldn't be as big as a deal.

If the government decides, it's different in my book.

but like buttons said do you really want to help pay for his housing and food?

you will basically be paying to help keep him safe from everyone that wants to hurt him for what he did. how is that fair?

[Buttons]

Eh, i'm on the line about things. Some people NEED to be out of society, where as I don't think I want my tax dollars to be paying for his food/shelter.

Anyways, I also think lethal injection is wrong now that I know more about it.

[TSiFTW]

Some people NEED to be out of society, where as I don't think I want my tax dollars to be paying for his food/shelter.

WOW. Nicely fucking said

[90_ACCORD]

Eh, i'm on the line about things. Some people NEED to be out of society, where as I don't think I want my tax dollars to be paying for his food/shelter.

Anyways, I also think lethal injection is wrong now that I know more about it.

then with one bullet they should kill him. that should be all to familiar to him so he should feel right at home with that

[oneSLOWex]

then with one bullet they should kill him. that should be all to familiar to him so he should feel right at home with that

thats too nice for the shit he did though

[Elbow]

thats too nice for the shit he did though

[TSiFTW]

Fuck just put him in general population in a prison in the south, unprotected. He wont last 10 minutes.

[90_ACCORD]

thats too nice for the shit he did though

well for the people that dont believe in lethal injection. the bullet thing is for them

[TSiFTW]

well for the people that dont believe in lethal injection. the bullet thing is for them

It's not that I don't believe in it, I just say gut the fucker. Save the morgue the extra work.

[Buttons]

then with one bullet they should kill him. that should be all to familiar to him so he should feel right at home with that

The reason why they have multiple guys shoot someone is so no one has the guilty conscience of killing someone. Whether you feel the person deserved to be killed or not, you don't want to have to live with the fact you killed someone. If there is five guys with guns, they give four blanks and one guy the real bullet, but don't tell any of them.

So... the people doing the killing started to realize that the blanks don't give as much kick back as the real bullets. Then some people had to go to counseling sessions, because they couldn't deal with the fact of knowing they killed someone whether the person was bad or good.

[90_ACCORD]

The reason why they have multiple guys shoot someone is so no one has the guilty conscience of killing someone. Whether you feel the person deserved to be killed or not, you don't want to have to live with the fact you killed someone. If there is five guys with guns, they give four blanks and one guy the real bullet, but don't tell any of them.

So... the people doing the killing started to realize that the blanks don't give as much kick back as the real bullets. Then some people had to go to counseling sessions, because they couldn't deal with the fact of knowing they killed someone whether the person was bad or good.

im sure there is some cop out there that could live with that. which would probably mean he shouldnt be a cop if he is ok with killing someone.

[Buttons]

im sure there is some cop out there that could live with that. which would probably mean he shouldnt be a cop if he is ok with killing someone.

But one person? That makes you just as bad. Killing someone.

[90_ACCORD]

also i remember seeing something on tv last night about this. i only caught like the last 5-10 min but i was surprised when they said he was going to be killed today. that doesnt mean i dont think i shouldnt be done but i was just surprised.

[Greddypacked]

NO THAT GUY DESERVES TO BE EXECUTED. HE KILLED THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST DOING THEIR EVERYDAY CHORES OR ACTIVITIES. SNIPING PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS IMMORALE.

[Buttons]

NO THAT GUY DESERVES TO BE EXECUTED. HE KILLED THOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST DOING THEIR EVERYDAY CHORES OR ACTIVITIES. SNIPING PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS IMMORALE.

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

[Greddypacked]

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

LOL... if he can snipe people and hide from the law he knows he is morally wrong. Oh about the rapist, hannibal lector sh!t... THIS SNIPER KILLED F>CKING 10 PEOPLE... that's considered a mass murder .

[Buttons]

LOL... if he can snipe people and hide from the law he knows he is morally wrong. Oh about the rapist, hannibal lector sh!t... THIS SNIPER KILLED F>CKING 10 PEOPLE... that's considered a mass murder .

Yes, but i don't see a problem if a person knows what they did was morally wrong. it's the people who think what they did was okay. those are the ones who need to be murdered.

[oneSLOWex]

I personally only thing the real fucking insane people (hannibal lector type shit and child rapist who murder the kids) and mass killers should be killed. Now if the guy killed a few people, cool thing, it's a bad day. I've had a stray thought about killing a few people, but some people aren't able to control their anger. Many people aren't able to know that even thought they are mad, that it is morally wrong.

But then again, sniping is nothing like that, so I don't know where I stand on that.

You are pretty much saying hold his hand and give him a fucking hug and everything will be ok....he just had a bad day and decided to murder innocent people. Send him to a psychiatrist so he can cry about how his parents beat him, give him some drugs that only act as a mask for the fucked up shit hes got going on in his head, and put him back out into the world.

FUCK THAT! Everyone who does something like this and thinks about it after the fact goes for the whole insanity BS what a crock of shit. The man has issues, issues where it seems cool in his brain to kill people who did nothing wrong.

How would you feel if you got a phone call saying someone you loved had been shot in the head while getting gas or picking up some food? Thats pretty much what this fool did. He doesn't deserve to breathe the same air everyone else does.

[Buttons]

You are pretty much saying hold his hand and give him a fucking hug and everything will be ok....he just had a bad day and decided to murder innocent people. Send him to a psychiatrist so he can cry about how his parents beat him, give him some drugs that only act as a mask for the fucked up shit hes got going on in his head, and put him back out into the world.

FUCK THAT! Everyone who does something like this and thinks about it after the fact goes for the whole insanity BS what a crock of shit. The man has issues, issues where it seems cool in his brain to kill people who did nothing wrong.

How would you feel if you got a phone call saying someone you loved had been shot in the head while getting gas or picking up some food? Thats pretty much what this fool did. He doesn't deserve to breathe the same air everyone else does.

I didn't say send him to a psychiatrist or put him back in the world. I wouldn't want that shit about me. By how he killed and how frequent, he didn't seem to care and that he didn't think it was wrong. He thought he could hold life and death in his own hands. And no one has that power. I personally think he should have the death sentence after reading the article, but i don't find lethal injection to be morally right.

You are saying that he has issues in his brain where as the other person was saying that he knew what he did was wrong. LOL it's either one or the other. it's not both.

[oneSLOWex]

I didn't say send him to a psychiatrist or put him back in the world. I wouldn't want that shit about me. By how he killed and how frequent, he didn't seem to care and that he didn't think it was wrong. He thought he could hold life and death in his own hands. And no one has that power. I personally think he should have the death sentence after reading the article, but i don't find lethal injection to be morally right.

You are saying that he has issues in his brain where as the other person was saying that he knew what he did was wrong. LOL it's either one or the other. it's not both.

Ahhh...Gotcha

How is lethal injection so wrong though? (i ask because I dont know)

[Kasper]

Yeah i really dont understand some people.. IF someone walked into your house, or even on the street just walked up to you and the people you loved the most in this world, and just killed them and made you watch. then walked away. and you had the chance to determin weather he lived or died, you cannot tell me that you would stand there and say, "well i'll house him, and feed him and give him free tv for the rest of his natural life"

And 9 times outa 10 life in prison doesnt mean natural life. in most cases its 25 years. and a kid thats 18-25 years old will be out long before hes dead. and for what. cause we housed him in a protective castle for the last couple of years, gave him something to eat, housed him, and let him watch TV all day.

Its people like that that say "well we'll just give him life" that drive me completely crazy. he has killed someones family. and your basically telling him its ok. im sorry but if people dont relize that our bodies are made to adapt to our surroundings so long term prison is what they will adapt to and become home. it'll just be another day for them. except there getting a free ride.

[Buttons]

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

[TSiFTW]

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

You are fully correct. However some thrive on it and fight for what they truly believe in. Just as most of the people they are fighting. Kill or be killed. Eye for a mother fucking eye.

[Greddypacked]

I just thought of my example. Soldiers in other countries will fight for the US. They believe the other side is wrong and what not and that they deserved to be killed. There's a difference between saying someone should die and you actually DOING it. Many soldiers come out of the war with Post-traumatic stress disorder from killing people.

I dont see anywhere in that article they say that sniper is ex military.

[Buttons]

I dont see anywhere in that article they say that sniper is ex military.

I used that as an example for the firing squad and why it's wrong sometimes.

[oneSLOWex]

I used that as an example for the firing squad and why it's wrong sometimes.

The firing squad for this guy should consist of the family of those who he killed.

[Elbow]

The firing squad for this guy should consist of the family of those who he killed.

$50 they wouldn't do it...

[Benefit]

this thread has alot of dumb shit already posted in it, lets see what happens next

[Elbow]

this thread has alot of dumb shit already posted in it, lets see what happens next

You just made it dumb, it's been a civil conversation so far.

[Greddypacked]

OH and for the people that dont believe he should get the death sentence. This would give more criminals a huge idea on... OH so if I go a killing people and act all crazy like im insane I would get free housing, food, and tv. also eh.

[oneSLOWex]

OH and for the people that dont believe he should get the death sentence. This would give more criminals a huge idea on... OH so if I go a killing people and act all crazy like im insane I would get free housing, food, and tv. also eh.

X2

"Oh look....i feel like killing some random people today....I just gotta talk about aliens coming to get me and eat my own shit in front of people so I can get away!"

[Buttons]

I personally think all the freaks should be all unloaded on a deserted island and let them fend for themselves. Real normal people have the ability to form real thoughts. It seems to caveman that you have to resort to killing other people to get your rocks off.

[Elbow]

I personally think all the freaks should be all unloaded on a deserted island and let them fend for themselves. Real normal people have the ability to form real thoughts. It seems to caveman that you have to resort to killing other people to get your rocks off.

I agree, that makes sense too, I like the island idea lol.

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[Benefit]

I agree, that makes sense too, I like the island idea lol.

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[Njobe]

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