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    Default IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-sci...l-warming.html

    Climate scientists allied with the IPCC have been caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, a shocking example of mass public deception that could spell the beginning of the end for the acceptance of man-made climate change theories.

    On Monday, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

    “This was startling,” reports the London Telegraph. “Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.”

    It soon came to light that the data produced by NASA to make the claim, and in particular temperature records covering large areas of Russia, was merely carried over from the previous month. NASA had used temperature records from the naturally hotter month of September and claimed they represented temperature figures in October.
    It seems that the only inconvenient truth is the facts.

    What makes it even worse is that this nonsense detracts from real environmental issues
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    People still believe in Global Warming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    People still believe in Global Warming?
    Especially the democrats. Largest transfer of wealth is happening already because of this shit. I'm for catalytic converters and not wasting shit but not drilling for oil because of global warming and the rest of the shit people believe is rediculous. Electric cars dont have turbos dammit, I will not stand for this.

    I'm a GIS (Geographic Information Science) major and we setup the different test sites all over the world for temp change and then put it in maps. The facts are the facts but those DAMN SCIENTISTS that are bought and paid for by people that will profit from Global Warming are the problem. They skew anything. There is a big wave of scientists, like myself, who are doing graduate study and proving it all to be BS. The shit will hit the fan eventually but the general public will believe it to be truth by then.

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    ^werd. Its already a household name. Used in movies, tv, radio etc....most ppl already believe in it
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    LOL. What do you expect. This coming from the guy who claims he invented the internet when the internet is actually older than him and just about anyone else on this site.
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    Nah not even. theres not enough alcohol on the planet that would convince me to bang that chick.I wouldn't hit that with Magic Johnson's dick.....on second thought
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    global warming is real!
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    well apparently autumn buys into global warming

    notixfordatc (1:04:25 PM): global warming is a sham
    alwaysup2sumtyn (1:04:28 PM): i is confused now
    notixfordatc (1:04:33 PM): gar
    alwaysup2sumtyn (1:04:34 PM): global warming is real!
    notixfordatc (1:04:42 PM): no its not
    alwaysup2sumtyn (1:04:46 PM): yes it is
    alwaysup2sumtyn (1:04:52 PM): i'm taking environmental science
    notixfordatc (1:05:01 PM): global warming is bullshit
    alwaysup2sumtyn (1:05:18 PM): no it's not!
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    Nah not even. theres not enough alcohol on the planet that would convince me to bang that chick.I wouldn't hit that with Magic Johnson's dick.....on second thought
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    GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL!!! IM SUPER CEREAL!!!



    LOL saw this coming a while ago. Didn't the head of the Weather Channel sue Al Gore for his false claims, too?
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    i take tree hugging classes. we talk about it everyday in class!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn
    i take tree hugging classes. we talk about it everyday in class!
    Your teacher is retarded then. Have then do some logical research instead of throwing out personal ideals. There is no scientific evidence to support global warming.

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    LOL Autumn global warming is no different than any other fear derived means of forced consumption. They tell us we're supposed to be afraid of something, they give us means to resolve those issues (usually costing us cold hard cash), we buy in. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Your teacher is retarded then. Have then do some logical research instead of throwing out personal ideals. There is no scientific evidence to support global warming.

    Then what about the polar ice caps melting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    LOL Autumn global warming is no different than any other fear derived means of forced consumption. They tell us we're supposed to be afraid of something, they give us means to resolve those issues (usually costing us cold hard cash), we buy in. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING!!!!
    So you are saying all the goverment programs they have for global warming and what not is bullshit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn
    Then what about the polar ice caps melting?
    Do some research on the sun and solar cycles then check back. That's about as credible as the concern about "Global Cooling" back in the 70's.

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    lolololololololololol they finally get caught. This really made my day, and I was having a bad day until now. I had the displeasure of watching An Inconvienient Truth the other day and it was the most disgustingly biased piece of shit movie I've ever seen.

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    Autumn and anyone else who has NO PROOF WHAT SO EVER other than some infomercial told me so is exactly why a ridiculous idea like this takes flight. People don't stop to question anything anymore. If it's on TV or some text book says it somewhere, then suddenly it becomes the "truth". Far from it.

    There is no such thing as Global Warming. It's a Liberal tree hugging idea concocted up by pansies that want to sell the moronic their hidden agenda. It ranks right on up there with humans suffering to try and save a mollusk that's about as worthless as tits on a hog, or paying $5/gallon to make sure half a dozen owls have a tree to nest on. Political correctness is the absolute gayest and most assenine idealogy known to man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn
    Then what about the polar ice caps melting?

    what about the ice age?.....its called climate change, the earth has progressed through it since the dawn of time....way way before the first human took its first steps.....and well before the first automobile. The earth rotates on an ever changing axis around the sun...called a procession of the equinoxes. in fact, we are in the process of shifting into a new earth cycle or "Age" as its known not too far in the future (2149-2150). Each cycle comes every ~2150 yrs
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    I can't help that my tree hugging class teaches me different .

    Now stop talking to me, I don't want to be steered wrong and get bad grades on my tests.
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    tell him to stop feeding you Bullshit and to get a real job, then burn down the building for supporting such false information
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    tell him to stop feeding you Bullshit and to get a real job, then burn down the building for supporting such false information

    aw, boo!

    dr. kellar is a cool guy. all he does is teach environmental science stuff.

    it's an easy class. i'm just stating what i've been taught from high school environmental science and college environmental science.
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    lolololol @ global warming, its called a cycle, its what the planet does lol

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    There actually is a climate crisis with our planet, but it's not because of emissions and polution. Scientists have proven that the earth's core is losing its magnetic charge. The magnetic fields of earth have shifted around ever since the earth was formed. Earth's magnetic charge is produced by molten iron spinning around deep beneath the earth's crust. The direction of the spin changes from year to year, which in turn shifts the north and south magnetic poles by as much as 15 km every year. The problem is that the rotation of the molten iron is slowing and cooling down, which causes more and more of our atmosphere to be blow into space by solar winds.

    Basically we're fucked, and there's nothing we can do about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    LOL. What do you expect. This coming from the guy who claims he invented the internet when the internet is actually older than him and just about anyone else on this site.
    Do some research, he didn't claim to invent the internet.

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    "Global warming is real! I'm taking earth science!"

    What a dumb bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    "Global warming is real! I'm taking earth science!"

    What a dumb bitch.

    *environmental science

    What a dumb reader.
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    This is going to be a long one.

    But in the global warming debate it seems quite obvious to me that the self-described 'skeptics' are little more than activist with a political agenda, much like the creationists. Scientific truth plays no role in the skepticism to global warming. This is best evidenced in the apparent and fundamental failure on the part of the 'skeptics' to understand science or its methods. Consider the popular arguments, such as that global warming is, in fact, caused by solar output. This argument is in many ways the direct analogue of a creationist's claim that any revision to the human 'family tree' represents a complete and categorical refutation of evolution. Not considered in such arguments are opposing findings nor, more relevantly, the view that even if solar output does make some contribution to an overall warming trend, that does nothing to absolve us of our role or our responsibility for our portion. Instead, any evidence which does not actively support a conclusion is considered to be in direct conflict with it.

    Just as creationists are constantly demanding a new 'transitional fossil' to fill the 'gap' between any new species, the global warming skeptics continue to demand more and more accurate forecasts.

    Because no forecast is ever likely to be perfect, just as we may never expect to have a 'complete', continuous fossil record of all species, the opposition is able to set a standard that can never be actionable.

    The rational, scientific view of this is that while the picture of our climate is, by sheer volume of variables, necessarily out of focus, that does not mean we cannot make certain, very reliable predictions, just as one can look at a blurry picture of a bear and still make out that it's a bear, even if you can't count its teeth. In all scientific disciplines, the 'picture' is continuously becoming better focused, and continuously increasing in complexity. To take the picture analogy one step further, one might eventually have a good enough camera to count the bear's teeth, but still not be able to count its molecules. The 'skeptic's' view is always to present a falsely dichotomous situation where you either must be able to count the molecules (or one imagines, the constituent subatomic particles, and so on) or your picture is useless. I find this sort of reasoning in vigorous use both when dealing with global warming skeptics and creationists.

    Counter these shady tactics with a, to the best of my knowledge, total failure to produce a competing theory that is harmonious with all our other data (again creationists leap to mind), and there's really no conclusion to draw but that the 'debate' in the public has no bearing whatever on scientific truth or consensus. The question that nags me is this: While I can easily understand why a major oil company would want to keep this matter mired in debate, what could the average Joe American possibly hope to gain by politicizing science in this way? I never understand the weird conspiracy theories from the skeptics; that there's some clandestine group of scientists secretly distorting data on climate and the environment in order to, uhhh... well we never find out what this conspiracy is about, do we?

    Why would a community of literally thousands of scientists, from different countries and different areas of research all be lying? How would the profit by this? Oddly, global warming 'skeptics' seem all to eager to find some completely undefined 'liberal conspiracy' in global warming theory, but they are pathologically incapable of seeing rather obvious profit motives on the part of oil companies who pay for the scant scientific opposition to the consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    What makes it even worse is that this nonsense detracts from real environmental issues
    When you say "this nonsense" what are you referring to exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ipcc-sci...l-warming.html



    It seems that the only inconvenient truth is the facts.

    What makes it even worse is that this nonsense detracts from real environmental issues
    what other environmental issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barfmachine
    When you say "this nonsense" what are you referring to exactly?
    I believe he's refering to all of the nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho
    I believe he's refering to all of the nonsense.
    Then his lack of knowledge must also be included in that 'nonsense.'

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    Seriously, there was no point in reading any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barfmachine
    Seriously, there was no point in reading any further.
    SHHHHHHHH

    He thinks he is on to something. Let him go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barfmachine
    This is going to be a long one.
    That was a nice Google copy/paste that essentially went nowhere. Your entire post did absolutely nothing except throw out the obviousness that activists are just as zealous as their opposing party. I think we're all fairly aware of that. However, why would these parties be throwing out false reports and inaccurate information to try and press for the global warming argument? What hidden agendas are they feeding? What's their motivation? Those are my questions. It's fairly obvious, and scientifically proven, that global warming due to human interference is a load of crap. So why?

    While I think it's good that we all try to help the planet and what-not, to have these organizations throw out blantant lies to scare people into it is complete bullsh*t.

    I must say that I find your comparison a bit backwards as well. It's somewhat humorous to read a post that discredits creationists for making up arguments for God, then turns around and says it's okay for environmentalists to make up arguments for Global Warming.
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    hmmm i would say i'm surprised, but then i'd be lying =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by barfmachine
    google copy paste
    This is the most idiotic slanted unobjective review of what is in reality, a very objective and practical look at "global warming". This is a perfect example of the global warming jihadist's intolerance to anything that deviates from their socialist agenda. Absolutely disgraceful!

    You must have taken very little time "google Searching" your argument, because it has little to nothing to do with the actual argument at hand, nor does it include a single FACT proving otherwise. Dont you believe that is a little hypocritical on your part saying there is no empirical evidence to disprove global warming claims, yet you provide no real data yourself?

    The Earth's climate changes all the time. Did carbon dioxide emissions cause the Medieval Warm Period, when Vikings raised crops on Greenland's coast? What caused the cold climate from 1700 to 1850? what about the GISS (NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies) report in 1971 predicting an ice age? Yes, the very organization now presaging gloom and doom at the hands of "global warming"

    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingt...Ice+Age+Coming

    "The world could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age, a leading atmospheric scientist predicts. Dr. S. I. Rasool of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and Columbia University says that:..."

    Archived in the Washington Post.....to which i'm sure you'll write off



    Here is a list of the hottest recorded dates in history, not one is even in the 21st century, not even the so called Hottest recorded year in history(supposedly 1998) which was proven wrong in multiple case studies

    World (Africa) El Azizia, Libya Sept. 13, 1922 136F

    North America (US) Death Valley, Calif. July 10, 1913 134F

    Asia Tirat Tsvi, Israel June 21, 1942 129

    Australia Cloncurry, Queensland Jan. 16, 1889 128

    Europe Seville, Spain Aug. 4, 1881 122 50

    South America Rivadavia, Argentina Dec. 11, 1905 120
    Canada Midale and Yellow Grass,
    Saskatchewan, Canada July 5, 1937 113

    Persian Gulf (sea-surface) Aug. 5, 1924 96

    Antarctica Vanda Station Jan. 5, 1974 59F
    South Pole Dec. 27, 1978 7.5 F

    The hottest temperature in the United States ever recorded occurred in Death Valley, California during 43 consecutive days between July 6 and August 17, 1917. During those days, the temperature was over 48 degrees Celsius (120 degrees Fahrenheit). The national weather service recorded 56.7 °C (134 °F).

    Those are Straight From Guiness World Records, and the "The Physics Factbook"...neither group advocating nor opposing the global warming position. Truly an unbias source.

    Here is a Survey of record LOW tempertures taken in the United states

    State by state low temperature records
    State Temp. Date Station Elevation
    ( F) (feet)
    Alabama -27 Jan. 30, 1966 New Market 760
    Alaska -80 Jan. 23, 1971 Prospect Creek 1,100
    Arizona -40 Jan. 7, 1971 Hawley Lake 8,180
    Arkansas -29 Feb. 13, 1905 Pond 1,250
    California -45 Jan. 20, 1937 Boca 5,532
    Colorado -61 Feb. 1, 1985 Maybell 5,920
    Connecticut -32 Feb. 16, 1943 Falls Village 585
    Delaware -17 Jan. 17, 1893 Millsboro 20
    Florida - 2 Feb. 13, 1899 Tallahassee 193
    Georgia -17 Jan. 27, 1940 N. Floyd County 1,000
    Hawaii 12 May 17, 1979 Mauna Kea 13,770
    Idaho -60 Jan. 18, 1943 Island Park Dam 6,285
    Illinois -36 Jan. 5, 1999 Congerville 722
    Indiana -36 Jan. 19, 1994 New Whiteland 785
    Iowa -47 Feb. 3, 1996* Elkader 770
    Kansas -40 Feb. 13, 1905 Lebanon 1,812
    Kentucky -37 Jan. 19, 1994 Shelbyville 730
    Louisiana -16 Feb. 13, 1899 Minden 194
    Maine -48 Jan. 19, 1925 Van Buren 458
    Maryland -40 Jan. 13, 1912 Oakland 2,461
    Massachusetts -35 Jan. 12, 1981 Chester 640
    Michigan -51 Feb. 9, 1934 Vanderbilt 785
    Minnesota -60 Feb. 2, 1996 Tower 1,430
    Mississippi -19 Jan. 30, 1966 Corinth 420
    Missouri -40 Feb. 13, 1905 Warsaw 700
    Montana -70 Jan. 20, 1954 Rogers Pass 5,470
    Nebraska -47 Feb. 12, 1899 Camp Clarke 3,700
    Nevada -50 Jan. 8, 1937 San Jacinto 5,200
    New Hampshire -47 Jan. 29, 1934 Mt. Washington 6,288
    New Jersey -34 Jan. 5, 1904 River Vale 70
    New Mexico -50 Feb. 1, 1951 Gavilan 7,350
    New York -52 Feb. 18, 1979* Old Forge 1,720
    North Carolina -34 Jan. 21, 1985 Mt. Mitchell 6,525
    North Dakota -60 Feb. 15, 1936 Parshall 1,929
    Ohio -39 Feb. 10, 1899 Milligan 800
    Oklahoma -27 Jan. 18, 1930 Watts 958
    Oregon -54 Feb. 10, 1933* Seneca 4,700
    Pennsylvania -42 Jan. 5, 1904 Smethport est. 1,500
    Rhode Island -25 Feb. 5, 1996 Greene 425
    South Carolina -19 Jan. 21, 1985 Caesars Head 3,100
    South Dakota -58 Feb. 17, 1936 McIntosh 2,277
    Tennessee -32 Dec. 30, 1917 Mountain City 2,471
    Texas -23 Feb. 8, 1933* Seminole 3,275
    Utah -69 Feb. 1, 1985 Peter's Sink 8,092
    Vermont -50 Dec. 30, 1933 Bloomfield 915
    Virginia -30 Jan. 22, 1985 Mountain Lake 3,870
    Washington -48 Dec. 30, 1968 Mazama 2,120
    Winthrop 1,755
    West Virginia -37 Dec. 30, 1917 Lewisburg 2,200
    Wisconsin -55 Feb.4, 1996 Couderay 1,300
    Wyoming -66 Feb. 9, 1933 Riverside 6,650

    Sourced from a USA Today article: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wcstates.htm

    How about this ill-forgotten factoid:

    GISS Temperature study in 2006



    NASA does not fully publish the computer source code and formulae used to calculate the trends in the graph, nor the correction used to arrive at the "corrected" data. Steve McIntyre of the Toronto based Climate Audit had to reverse engineer the process by comparing the raw data and the processed data.. :

    "This imparts an upward discontinuity of a deg C in wintertime and 0.8 deg C annually. I checked the monthly data and determined that the discontinuity occurred on January 2000 - and, to that extent, appears to be a Y2K problem. I presume that this is a programming error."

    Also According to his "Quantifying the Hansen Y2K Error" report:

    "I observed recently that Hansen's GISS series contains an apparent error in which Hansen switched the source of GISS raw from USHCN adjusted to USHCN raw for all values January 2000 and later. For Detroit Lakes MN, this introduced an error of 0.8 deg C. I've collated GISS raw minus USHCN adjusted for all USHCN sites (using the data scraped from the GISS site, for which I was most criticized in Rabett-world). Figure 1 below shows a histogram of the January 2000 step for the 1221 stations (calculated here as the difference between the average of the difference after Jan 2000 and for the 1990-1999 period.) The largest step occurred in Douglas AZ where the Hansen error is 1.75 deg C! There is obviously a bimodal distribution."

    further reviewed here : http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1868


    Letter to GISS officials:



    Response:



    NASA made a correction not only on their own web page, attributing the discovery to McIntyre, but NASA also issued a corrected set of temperature anomaly data which you can see here:

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.D.txt


    while they still didn't provide proper provenance for the data before 2000, leaving another guessing game.......who would have guessed

    According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 nor 2006 is no longer the hottest years ever. 1934 is.

    NOAA has still yet to issue a statement saying otherwise, even though GISS themselves has corrected the error....hmmm wonder why ppl are so missinformed

    http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/s2772.htm


    Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900. (World rankings of temperature are calculated separately.)


    "science has a history of being wrong"

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    Holy sh*t, longest post ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Holy sh*t, longest post ever.




    with facts to back it up....who would have guessed huh?


    ibhedoesntevenreadit lulz
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    i don't wanna read it.

    i'm just gonna listen to my teacher and pass his class. fuck what y'all think!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKLx...layer_embedded
    response from 03RCode: Hell, it turns me on. I have a steel hard erection as speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by barfmachine

    Why would a community of literally thousands of scientists, from different countries and different areas of research all be lying? How would the profit by this? Oddly, global warming 'skeptics' seem all to eager to find some completely undefined 'liberal conspiracy' in global warming theory, but they are pathologically incapable of seeing rather obvious profit motives on the part of oil companies who pay for the scant scientific opposition to the consensus.


    To answer the only relevant question offered in this post:


    "In one of the more expensive ironies of history, the expenditure of more than $US 50 billion on research into global warming since 1990 has failed to demonstrate any human-caused climate trend, let alone a dangerous one.
    Yet that expenditure will pale into insignificance compared with the squandering of money that is going to accompany the introduction of a carbon trading or taxation system."

    -Bob Carter(Paleoclimate scientist), testifying before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee

    Again a related source:

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Coffman/mike10.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn
    i don't wanna read it.

    i'm just gonna listen to my teacher and pass his class. fuck what y'all think!

    Please, by all means, dont.
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