Offical Pedo Bear Rule Discussion Thread

[MistaCee]

i really hate rickroll...

oh... also i really hate it when people mask a link like put show it as youtube.com but it's meatspin...

that should be banned too.

Yea I definitely agree with that meatspin thing.

[osnap]

I'm not one of the pedo fans like Ran , so maybe my more neutral voice could be a bit more valuable to the mod team, I dunno...

This is absolutely ridiculous. There is a LOT of filth on this site that is tossed around on a frequent basis that is EASILY more objectionable than the likeness of a cartoon bear. To ban sexually explicit images in the WL is somewhat understandable, but to ban a cartoon of an animal that suggests a sexual connotation is absolutely absurd.

Mike, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt any sponsor has objected to his cell-shaded likeness. Furthermore, I haven't seen anyone complain on the board either. That leaves personal qualms as the likely culprit here, which I think is nowhere near a valid reason to ban a cartoon. Hell, even if someone had complained, this is the WHORESLOUNGE, where anything is supposed to go.... ANYTHING, that is, except for cartoon animals. God forbid.

If someone had suggested yesterday that IA was planning on banning a cartoon bear, I probably would have laughed and explained that surely they aren't that ridiculous. Seems I was wrong. Sure, nobody's gonna up and leave for some ridiculous reason like this, but its censorship, and it will lead to more... and people don't like it. Nobody's making us stay here, I know, but if you really want to sacrifice your loyal user base at the expense of becoming the morality police, I guess you should just continue doing this.

Oh well... at least we still have the rest of the gang.

[stillaneon]

Maybe we should just ban the whole site, we are all going to find something we dont like.. I dont like certain mods deleting threads when they get their feelings hurt for being immature. And a lot of people dislike QD because he is refreshingly blunt. Sometimes the punches have to be rolled with.

And if Pedo bear is a battle you really want to fight then go for it. but I think there are worse things out there to get defensive about.

[Sammich]

I'm not one of the pedo fans like Ran , so maybe my more neutral voice could be a bit more valuable to the mod team, I dunno...

This is absolutely ridiculous. There is a LOT of filth on this site that is tossed around on a frequent basis that is EASILY more objectionable than the likeness of a cartoon bear. To ban sexually explicit images in the WL is somewhat understandable, but to ban a cartoon of an animal that suggests a sexual connotation is absolutely absurd.

Mike, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt any sponsor has objected to his cell-shaded likeness. Furthermore, I haven't seen anyone complain on the board either. That leaves personal qualms as the likely culprit here, which I think is nowhere near a valid reason to ban a cartoon. Hell, even if someone had complained, this is the WHORESLOUNGE, where anything is supposed to go.... ANYTHING, that is, except for cartoon animals. God forbid.

If someone had suggested yesterday that IA was planning on banning a cartoon bear, I probably would have laughed and explained that surely they aren't that ridiculous. Seems I was wrong. Sure, nobody's gonna up and leave for some ridiculous reason like this, but its censorship, and it will lead to more... and people don't like it. Nobody's making us stay here, I know, but if you really want to sacrifice your loyal user base at the expense of becoming the morality police, I guess you should just continue doing this.

Oh well... at least we still have the rest of the gang.

repped

[ShooterMcGavin]

yea, but see, you dont agree with banning all pedo content..so that brings me back to another question, was this discussed between mods and admins before this rule came into existence

some, yes. but obviously not all (since we've got quite a few these days).

[Ran]

I'm not one of the pedo fans like Ran , so maybe my more neutral voice could be a bit more valuable to the mod team, I dunno...

Reps on that entire post. You took everything I was trying to say and made it sound...well, better.

Thanks for the unbiased opinion.

[Ed]

repped

x2

why dont we get in touch with the sponsors and ask them if pedobear is offending to them?

[Slow Motion]

Are NWS reps still legal?

[ShooterMcGavin]

also what about our sigs...shouldnt they be removed too..i mean..we are 'protesting nws material'

dumbest comment ever reread it slowly and think about what you're really saying w/that statement.

[DieselNuts]

dumbest comment ever reread it slowly and think about what you're really saying w/that statement.

nice catch. i knew what he ment though

[stillaneon]

Are NWS reps still legal?

Most likely. Well I mean if at least one mod has a problem it is

[Ran]

Are NWS reps still legal?

I dunno. Let's find out.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Are NWS reps still legal?

yep!

[man]

understand where you're coming from. but at the same time, are you speaking from experience? have you had to seek out sponsors and have you turned them down in order to keep a community?

i'm not saying i have by any means, but if you haven't either then why do you speak as if it's such an easy thing to do, especially considering IA is not a full time job for either Julio or Paul?

and furthermore, there are numerous online forums where jack squat is allowed, yet still have a huge following. i don't think it's fair to insinuate that you can't maintain an online webboard w/o allowing a free for all. TRUE, IA might not be the same if more and more things become banned, but it doesn't mean IA won't survive and find a potentially larger following of ppl who don't care for the WL nonsense.

finally, i love IA and all the retarded bs that comes w/it, the callouts and all the inappropriate jokes. at the same time though, i'm on other boards that are CLEAN and i enjoy those as well, so it's all whatever to me.

I have run websites in the past (taking a break for school) and I do know how hard it is to turn down a customer, the first couple times. Sometimes they will straight-up leave and you move on, other times they will reconsider and perhaps change their criteria for the site. Julio has given up control of the site to his sponsors. Just because his name is on the certificate doesn't mean it's his anymore. He is merely working for them when he decides to meet their every request.

So here's where IA as a business stands:
An advertiser comes, looking for access to the wide consumer base. They say "well, we don't like this and that" And here goes Julio and the mods, out to change stuff. Now they are working for the sponsor. So not only is Julio selling his product (user base) he is also adapting it to each customers specific request, which we can call personalization (thus changing the consumer base, even slightly)

Look at any major company/corporation. Let's take Ford for instance. Let's say you go in to buy a Mustang but you don't really like the engine choices. So you say "well I would buy one, but I'd like a 5.7L engine instead of the 4.6" they are going to laugh at you and gladly see you out the door. Even if 1000 people walk through saying the same thing, guess what? They aren't going to do it. This is why Ford only sold the Model T in black, things are easier to sell when you offer the customer a set list of options.

So let's say IA is a Model T. Now things get interesting. Let's say Ford will bend to each consumers request, but each change made has to be made to every car (by every car I mean even cars already sold, due to the fact that IA is a singular entity, each sponsor is buying the same IA, not their own personalized one) So, your first customer comes in and buys one, in black. Your next customer comes in and wants it in red. Now you have to start making them all red AND you have to go back and paint the first customer's car red. The process continues for each car sold. Sound like an easy car to sell?

I know this is long, but it's true and I'm bored

[Slow Motion]

Are NWS reps still legal?

I hope so I like them sh!ts..

[stillaneon]

I have run websites in the past (taking a break for school) and I do know how hard it is to turn down a customer, the first couple times. Sometimes they will straight-up leave and you move on, other times they will reconsider and perhaps change their criteria for the site. Julio has given up control of the site to his sponsors. Just because his name is on the certificate doesn't mean it's his anymore. He is merely working for them when he decides to meet their every request.

So here's where IA as a business stands:
An advertiser comes, looking for access to the wide consumer base. They say "well, we don't like this and that" And here goes Julio and the mods, out to change stuff. Now they are working for the sponsor. So not only is Julio selling his product (user base) he is also adapting it to each customers specific request, which we can call personalization (thus changing the consumer base, even slightly)

Look at any major company/corporation. Let's take Ford for instance. Let's say you go in to buy a Mustang but you don't really like the engine choices. So you say "well I would buy one, but I'd like a 5.7L engine instead of the 4.6" they are going to laugh at you and gladly see you out the door. Even if 1000 people walk through saying the same thing, guess what? They aren't going to do it. This is why Ford only sold the Model T in black, things are easier to sell when you offer the customer a set list of options.

So let's say IA is a Model T. Now things get interesting. Let's say Ford will bend to each consumers request, but each change made has to be made to every car (by every car I mean even cars already sold, due to the fact that IA is a singular entity, each sponsor is buying the same IA, not their own personalized one) So, your first customer comes in and buys one, in black. Your next customer comes in and wants it in red. Now you have to start making them all red AND you have to go back and paint the first customer's car red. The process continues for each car sold. Sound like an easy car to sell?

I know this is long, but it's true and I'm bored

Good Point

[TIGERJC]

Honestly I think the censorship is going to far.

I don't support the removing of pedo bear, just because more things will follow. Next thing you know I will be Banned for making another "Fu.ck the Pope thread", just because some butt hurt religious person finds it offensive

[Slow Motion]

I dunno. Let's find out.

Holy fukin pedo bear Ran...

Damn I need to learn how to do that.

Good Point

x2

[Sammich]

some, yes. but obviously not all (since we've got quite a few these days).

not trying to run the boards, as some mod..has, but i say ALL mods get together and vote...and majority wins

[DieselNuts]

Holy fukin pedo bear Ran...

Damn I need to learn how to do that.

post it

[Sammich]

dumbest comment ever reread it slowly and think about what you're really saying w/that statement.

u know what i'm TRYING to say

[Ran]

post it

Don't post it here.

This R Serious Thread

I'll PM you the link.

[Crazy Asian]

ME THREE

[Slow Motion]

post it

I would but I don't want to get banned.

[man]

not trying to run the boards, as some mod..has, but i say ALL mods get together and vote...and majority wins

There we go... Now we're thinking progressively. Mods are like the board of directors of the company.

[collins]

post it

QFT!!!

[quickdodge®]

I dont want to deal with advertisers saying they want to drop the site because you posted a picture that said

I LIKE MY 12 year olds like i like my......

So you think that advertisers will be more likely to accept jokes on rape, incest racism, and other demeaning topics that are often found in these pages? Good thought process. Later, QD.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I have run websites in the past (taking a break for school) and I do know how hard it is to turn down a customer, the first couple times. Sometimes they will straight-up leave and you move on, other times they will reconsider and perhaps change their criteria for the site. Julio has given up control of the site to his sponsors. Just because his name is on the certificate doesn't mean it's his anymore. He is merely working for them when he decides to meet their every request.

So here's where IA as a business stands:
An advertiser comes, looking for access to the wide consumer base. They say "well, we don't like this and that" And here goes Julio and the mods, out to change stuff. Now they are working for the sponsor. So not only is Julio selling his product (user base) he is also adapting it to each customers specific request, which we can call personalization (thus changing the consumer base, even slightly)

i quit reading after this. why? because i can conclude with 100% certainty that you have absolutely no idea how this site is run and what the plans are for its future. seriously, not trying to be **** about it or be an *******, just calling it like it is.

[Sammich]

So you think that advertisers will be more likely to accept jokes on rape, incest racism and other demeaning topics that are often found in these pages? Good thought process. Later, QD.

QD in for the rectification

[Crazy Asian]

So when can I be a mod? Ill bring cookies for everyone and beer?

[collins]

So you think that advertisers will be more likely to accept jokes on rape, incest racism and other demeaning topics that are often found in these pages? Good thought process. Later, QD.

qft x2

[stillaneon]

So when can I be a mod? Ill bring cookies for everyone and beer?

Cookies and Beer, Thats a good deal you guys. But what if someone doesn;t like beer? you might get banned...

[Slow Motion]

There we go... Now we're thinking progressively. Mods are like the board of directors of the company.

uh hem...Fuk that we as a ppl need to vote.

I have a dream that one day, IA boys and IA girls will be able to post freely. And that Pedo bear and loli characters will remain free. I have a dream, that one day mods will repect the people and will not change and delete sh!t for there own personal reasons, and if they were to do so that we will go high upon the mountain top and say no. That is not right. We will one day be able to speak our minds without having to whisper quietly in the corner and back alley ways of IA. I have a dream, all sigs will remain untouched by those who wish to censor for personal gain. And I have a dream that we all will type together in peace in harmony. I have a dream.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Cookies and Beer, Thats a good deal you guys. But what if someone doesn;t like beer? you might get banned...

bullsh1t! if someone doesn't like cookies or beer i'm banning them

[Sammich]

Cookies and Beer, Thats a good deal you guys. But what if someone doesn;t like beer? you might get banned...

not if he's a mod

[man]

i quit reading after this. why? because i can conclude with 100% certainty that you have absolutely no idea how this site is run and what the plans are for its future. seriously, not trying to be **** about it or be an *******, just calling it like it is.

I really don't know how this site is run, you are correct. But I DO know how to run an effective and efficient BUSINESS (as it seems IA has lost much of it's qualities as an online community), and I can tell you right now that this one's heading in the wrong direction. I didn't post what I did to be an *******. I would like to see this site continue to be successful, but from what I've seen, Julio needs some help.

And maybe you should keep reading...

[Ran]

qft x2

I said this on the first page, but you didn't agree with me. F*cker. lol

[ShooterMcGavin]

uh hem...Fuk that we as a ppl need to vote.

I have a dream that one day, IA boys and IA girls will be able to post freely. And that Pedo bear and loli characters will remain free. I have a dream, that one day mods will repect the people and will not change and delete sh!t for there own personal reasons, and if they were to do so that we will go high upon the mountain top and say no. That is not right. We will one day be able to speak our minds without having to whisper quietly in the corner and back alley ways of IA. I have a dream, all sigs will remain untouched by those who wish to censor for personal gain. And I have a dream that we all will type together in peace in harmony. I have a dream.

you have no idea how much self control it just took for me to not delete or edit that in any way

[stillaneon]

lol.

Ran, I like that pic a lot better than the last opne you posted. Thanks for the Reps too Ill hit you back when I get on my computer.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I really don't know how this site is run, you are correct. But I DO know how to run an effective and efficient BUSINESS, and I can tell you right now that this one's heading in the wrong direction. I didn't post what I did to be an *******. I would like to see this site continue to be successful, but from what I've seen, Julio needs some help.

And maybe you should keep reading...

this isn't a BUSINESS to them, or did you miss my first post where i said IA isn't a full time job for julio or paul? for one, if this were a business, they would've started charging a long time ago...