Lucky for you, this estrogen is going to watch Weeds with my girlfriends. So, you can have this thread all to yourself until I get back.Originally Posted by StuntallDay
Lucky for you, this estrogen is going to watch Weeds with my girlfriends. So, you can have this thread all to yourself until I get back.
If that's what she is supposed to do...then Terry should have stayed home, tooIt's what he is supposed to do also. Then they would have no money to fight over and we would all be paying for their welfare instead of having this argument.
They obviously had an agreement for 20 years (or whatever). That's the point. She stayed home and he went out to work.
I can tell you this. I do all of the laundry and all of the cooking and cleaning. Is that what I am supposed to do? OR is that an agreement between Dan and I? I wonder how many loads of laundry Terry did. I wonder how many meals he cooked.
So you deserve to get paid for doing laundry....Really?
and when you have kids, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RAISE THEM. YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR THAT.
You sound bitter. YOU better get a prenup or not get married.
I do for myself...AND MY MAN....because that's how I do. I want to be treated as an equal and when I make an agreement with my significant other, I expect that it will be respected that it was an agreement made between to adults. I also expect that when I get married it is understood that it is a partnership and sacrifices will have to be made on everyone's behalf...otherwise we should stay single. Marriage is about compromise to make things work between 2 people and their family. Everyone has a role to make things happen. That doesn't mean one or the other gets squat if it ends. It means that accumulated wealth is shared if the marriage ends. The law then decides what happens from there
You sound bitter. YOU better get a prenup or not get married.
I do for myself...AND MY MAN....because that's how I do. I want to be treated as an equal and when I make an agreement with my significant other, I expect that it will be respected that it was an agreement made between to adults. I also expect that when I get married it is understood that it is a partnership and sacrifices will have to be made on everyone's behalf...otherwise we should stay single. Marriage is about compromise to make things work between 2 people and their family. Everyone has a role to make things happen. That doesn't mean one or the other gets squat if it ends. It means that accumulated wealth is shared if the marriage ends. The law then decides what happens from there
I sound bitter because I have an opinion? Ok
That's where the old women operate on emotion and not logic thing I keep hearing about comes into play. Nice try.
You saying that is as educated as me saying that you're just out for half of your man's money if the s h i t hits the fan because you've done laundry.
Last edited by StuntallDay; 11-26-2007 at 02:12 PM.
You are beginning to make me think you are ignorant. I didn't say anything about getting paid. I said that I do laundry and cook and clean. Dan works and doesn't have to do any of that. It's a trade. Dan just happens to get money for his part, while my bills get paid from his part. I do my part so he can do his part so the bills get paid. No money is exchanged. It's a partnership.
No one said you get paid for raising kids, hun. You make a compromise with your spouse. You stay home with the kids while he goes out to work. Thus, while you are home with the kids, you are hindered from going out to earn money. So when you divorce you don't have any of you "OWN" money. You never had the opportunity to earn any while you were home taking care of kids and doing laundry. That is an agreement made between the married couple.
Again, I sound ignorant because my opinion doesn't mimic yours. Right.
So during this "agreement" , if there is no talk of exchanging money, then why should a woman ( and I'm not speaking of you specifically) expect to be compensated for doing whatever it is she does at home?
And secondly, how is a woman hindered from earning money?
If a couple decides that the woman will stay home and take care of the kids solely, that's one thing. But, in this day and age where childcare is easily obtained, a woman can work.
No, you sound emotional that's why I said you sound bitter. I am having a nice debate and keeping it factual. Where is my emotional issue coming into play? I simply expressed my "opinion" on your bitterness. If I am wrong, then don't get offended. You know where you stand...as do I
You are picking out the things you want to read. I never said I get 1/2 because I did laundry. There is a whole lot more to it than that. You should re-read if that's all you took out of what I said. I really have to go and don't have time to type it again right now.
This has been fun, but now I REALLY have to go. Hit you back when I get back on the computer
I already thought he was ignorant. I feel women are equals in most things, but not everything. not in a bad way, but as a man I would never approve of women going to fight on the front line of a war. Women shoudlnt be allowed to play contact sports with men, (NFL etc). It is a fact that men and women are built differently and are suited for different roles. As a man I feel it's my duty to take care of my wife. She does not feel the same and has chosen to work. I support her, she supports me. As tracy said " a partnership". I cannot even begin to imagine how some of the things he is saying make sense to him. My wife, even if she did not work, does things around the house, cleans, cooks etc, that enable me to make the money. Hence we are both working twords the same goal, using different methods. So why should she NOT be entitled to half? I would not be able to accomplish the same tasks the same way had she not been helping.
Well maybe Instead of her intitled to half of his earnings im sure... That Hulk would come to an agreement of giving enough to her so that she can live without any worries. Shes not going to take everything. Thats for damn sure. Because he hasnt done anything pyhsically or emotinally to her. And the Judge knows of Hulk Hogan Im sure of. That plays in his favor. They will come to an amount where she will be secured for a while. From what I have seen and heard I dont think Hulk would just say hell no and get the **** on. There are Kids involved. Hes more sensitive then his wrestling icon puts him out to be. BROTHER!
So....Just out of curiousity, have I insulted you once in this thread?
I'm pretty sure that I have not, and so you come out of left field after watching Tracy and I debate and add your two estrogen filled cents.
Congratulations. I think you're more woman than Tracy is.
You are now a candidate for hormone replacement therapy....
ROFL!!
I'm serious...This dude( and I'm starting to doubt that he is in fact a dude) doesn't deserve the his d i c k or the balls that hang from under it.
well cpt, I've been in the thread for a while now, but I'm sure you din't see cause I wasn't spouting off crazy ass ideas.. I was just commenting on your crazy ass views. But hey, you've got a little following now and you can continue insulting me and not really offering up any good additions to the thread discussion, but hey whatever keeps the post count climbing right?
*insert sarcastic tone* your completely right, i should be rambling on how women are gold diggers and f*ck em all....yep that sounds exactly like what a real man talks like.
You are an idiot, plain and simple.
The fact that you have "participated" in this thread is of little consequence to me.
Your insults are remedial at best.
Judging by your responses, you've watched one episode of Oprah too many.
You sound like a b i t c h.
I have contributed numerous constructive posts to this debate.
I'm sorry that testosterone flows through my brain a little more freely than yours. I don't ovulate. Haven't been to any sensitivity training seminars. I don't cry over Lifetime movies. My bad.
I think Ellen is on...Maybe you should go watch that.
Last edited by StuntallDay; 11-26-2007 at 03:22 PM.
that was nice. So because i feel differently then you, your more a man than I am? I doubt that seriously. But go on acting all bad ass, I'm getting a little to old to be playing the name calling game.
that was nice. So because i feel differently then you, your more a man than I am? I doubt that seriously. But go on acting all bad ass, I'm getting a little to old to be playing the name calling game.
I'm acting like a bad ass because you can't textually defend yourself? Right.
You're part of what's wrong with today's society....
THE NEW AGE MALE: too busy wanting to be all caring and sensitive to a woman's " needs" and " wants", that you have forgotten how to be a man.
Take note everyone...Mfer's like this are the reason why society has decayed the way it has. We need to get back to a time when MEN WERE MEN AND WOMEN WERE WOMEN. A time when divorce simply wasn't an option and families were families.
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what do I have to defend myself against? Your thread text bashings? F*ck that. I don't need to answer to you or anyone else. Whats your idea of being a man? Telling a woman what to do and it's done? Nice. Thats not being a man fool. Taking care of your wife and family, doing what is right. THat is being a man. all this bull**** talk going on in this thread (especially you) about how a woman should have to work to be entitled to half the assets is crap. Running a house, taking care of the family is work you jackass. I've said over and over marriage is a partner ship and it takes BOTH people working to succeed in it. That means husband/wife working, Husband works, wife stays at home. Whatever they both agree on. Are you married? Do you have any reason at all to make me think for a second you know what you are talking about? Judging from your responses on here you make me think your some kind of moron who thinks they know exactly how to fix any and everyproblem. So please answer me exactly what
means. ?? I'm guessing it does NOT involve any sort of cooperation between the spouses....I await your ,I'm sure, very inteligent response.We need to get back to a time when MEN WERE MEN AND WOMEN WERE WOMEN
If you don't agree with him STunt, no need to throw insults at him like you are. I don't necessarily agree with him either but i'm not attacking him or his gender. Keep it as a debate, that's the only way anyone will take you seriously.
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"Hi, my name is StuntallDay, I put out cigarette butts on children and finger my dog to establish dominance. My wife likes it when I hit her because I am insecure about myself, and would likely lose every discussion/argument otherwise. I have never accomplished anything of note in my life, and because I have no power outside my home, I will exert myself on people more intelligent than me IN my home simply because I can slap and pull hair harder and with more force than my wife. "
Honestly, are you a retarded caveman? If you can dominate her that much, why bother getting married at all? Make HER work, then she can come home and cook you dinner while you sit on the couch all day reading Auto-Trader magazine, and having wet dreams over the new Mustang (lol). (if you are not fat now, this will help you along] Good luck with that, bro, I hear girls are into over-compensation these days. Good luck with your Geico commercials, also. Do you type with your elbows? Feel free to adopt my sarcastic tone and to use the format of my response to you in a mocking way against me in order to try to re-establish some dignity....whatever it takes, just promise me you won't take it out on your kids/wife/dog. You sound like a wonderful husband and a phenomenal parent. Keep it up, dolt. lol
Yay xB MPG!
Interesting. You call him a retarded caveman for insulting someone but yet you do the exact same thing. Amazing how you pick apart someones life that you don't know so deftly. Hypocritical new people in the Whores lounge are relatively short lived.
I found your response bland and not funny even though your attempts at humor looked to be hard thought. Sit back, cruise some of the other forums and then come to the Whores lounge when people might care what youa re saying. At the moment, they do not because any good points you might have had were lost in the slew of insults you spat out.
Good day.
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I had to stop reading all of that shi* and just get striaght to the point,she wanted her a young buck that could fuc* and he was not putting out the perfomance that she wanted so she left him.
Wow. What a bunch of meanie heads in here
I see you in the thread, crafting a response Tyr. Let it flow, it will be ridiculed.
Garage-Sixgun
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That was actually my immature response, crafted for his benefit because he was apparently unable to comprehend the tactful, mature response of others, and wanted a "textual" argument. I apologize if I have offended anyone, and I assure you, you, my joker-faced sir.....have put me in my place. I am ashamed and regretful. Thank you for your mature insight, but I assure you, I am completely capable of replying to people who I may or may not dissagree with without a single insult. See? You are well on your way to raising the maturity level of what I have thus far seen of IA. One patronizing post at a time. :p
Lol, you actually have just rendered me speechless.
Garage-Sixgun
If you're gonna do it, overdo it.
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You ought to see me naked....or maybe not. lolLol, you actually have just rendered me speechless.
if a wife wants to spend time making her job being an at home mother, thats her choice. nothing says she cant get her ass a real job, sure being a mom is hard, but then again,(in her case) her kids are all old she could have got a job years ago. if you get a divorce and end up with the kids all you deserve is child support, then you can go get a real damn job. his wife didnt do anything that envolved him making money, he did it on his own, so it should stay his own. she just needs to take her big fat titties into some adult movies and she'll be fineSo forget for a second that we are talking about Linda Hogan. Let's say we are talking about some other woman, who has not worked, but stayed at home with the kids, done nothing but try and be good mother and wife. Supported and loved her family. The husband did not start out rich, but ended up making millions. Decided one day that he no longer loved this woman and wanted out. Going on yours and a lot of people's logic, she is entitled to NOTHING. She worked for years to make sure her family was strong and loving, but in the end it is torn apart because someone changed their mind. So now, having spent years doing nothing but raising a family, she has no means to support her self. That seem fair to you? If so I feel terrible for any wife/or future wife and family you may have. You can't draw a line and say X number of marriages the woman (or man in some cases) should get something if they divorce, and X number should not. The whole idea of a marriage is joining 2 lives into 1. That doesn't mean 67% of one life and 89% of the other. EVERYTHING. If you can't handle that, simple enough, don't get married.
As for eating my words, what big game am I talking? All i've done is voice my views on this subject, I'm not running around saying I'm right and everyone else is wrong. If something happened to my marriage and I got a divorce, well I would be crushed. But let's look at this way:
If I end up being sucessful in my views what do I get: A lifetime of happiness with someone I love, possibly kids and a bigger family down the line, being able to pass knowlege down the gererational line....ya know kinda things a little more important the money. Oh and not watching my back every second of the day cause the world is out to screw me.
Now if I were to follow some ppls views what do I get : The possiblity of keeping my money (losing half to a spouse is only one of many ways to lose your money), a bitter cynical materalistic outlook on life that everyone is out to get me so I better keep my money on lockdown, the remote chance that somoene out there can deal with my attitude and I'll be able to trust them enough to love and marry them...
thanks I'll take the chance at happpiness, guess we can see after we all die if I was succesful or not...well maybe cause I'll prob die, but you money men will more then likely have enough to keep death away...and my wife will have taken all mine.
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wow still you people miss the point. I don't know how much clearer it can be. When your married, it is no longer HE makes the money or SHE makes the money. It is both together. Your all still looking at it like they are single, yes when your single but dating it's your money and her money. When you get married you agree to the good times (having and making money) and the bad (the opposite) together. For better or worse, sickness and health. For all arguments sake it's like your talking about 1 person. I find it interesting that the majority of you arguing that it's his money are the ones who are more then likely not married. You seem to have tons of oppinions on the subject, yet rather little exp. in the topic. If you had been through it you would realize that your comitting yourself to one person and joining their lives (once again EVERY aspect) with yours as one. It's not a big mystery here, hulk did not have the money when they got married (or not as much) yet in the time they were married, he became suscessful and more money came in. Being married his wife WAS a part of that , be it the emotional support, cooking/cleaning/kid raising whatever, that enabled him more time and energy to put into makeing the money. So as such she did work with him tword that goal and now he's got money and she would be entitled to that as well. You ppl act like its some great tragedy that she should get some money, but he knew just as every other married person knows that when you marry you get the good and the bad. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Whats life if your afraid to live it? I truly do feel bad that some of you have terrible attitudes tword marriage and life, christ you only get one run through and you wanna act like it's just some big scam trying to rip you off.
and as for her getting a job it's been pointed out earlier that when a woman is not working for 30 someodd years it's because BOTH her and the husband want it that way. So saying she's to blame for not getting a job is just plain BS. Grow up man, you have no idea how hard raising kids are, neither do I. Especially being a stay at home mother with a famous husband who is gone a lot. She's not a victim and neither is He.
*Yawn*
Such a long winded, redundant, and totally devoid of anything remotely resembling humor, excuse for a post. Wow.
I've taken s h i t s that have had more potential......
and we are blessed with more great posts that add so much to the discussion.
and we are blessed with more great posts that add so much to the discussion.
I think that my statement is pretty self explanatory but since you want me
to spell it out for you.....Men: supported the household, brought home the bacon if you will, the head of household, made all decisions and the rest of the family followed suit.
Women:cooked, clean, raised kids, concentrated solely on household duties, listened to, obeyed, and did not question husband or decisions that husband made.
and fyi, I've been involved in this thread since the beginning...
and this is coming from a woman...QFT, Schugg.
I disagree, I thought it was funny, sir. So at least to me, it had humor. Do you have any clue what the word redundant means? Did you mean that I was superfluous? Tautologous? I apologize. Next time I make you look like a silly goose, I'll use fewer, smaller words. I had better stop before he gets all emo again, lol.
k yep, that is exactly what I thought you were saying. And not quite sure where the I've been in the thread since the beginning came from but kudos for you. I'm actually surprised your not spouting off more insults. Seeing as I'm whats wrong with the world today....I think that my statement is pretty self explanatory but since you want me
to spell it out for you.....Men: supported the household, brought home the bacon if you will, the head of household, made all decisions and the rest of the family followed suit.
Women:cooked, clean, raised kids, concentrated solely on household duties, listened to, obeyed, and did not question husband or decisions that husband made.
and fyi, I've been involved in this thread since the beginning...
Quick question though, are you married cause you certianly have a grand outlook on the way things should be, and I'm sure the ladies must been busting the door down to find a guy like you.
becareful and use MANLY words cause thats what men should use. Oh and explosions and naked women work well as visual aids when discussing something "man style".
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So seeing as how you're unable to grasp the meaning of the word let me break it down for you.
You repetitively used 2 themes during this useless post.
A. You alluded to me as being a caveman.
B. You attempted to insult my manhood by the overuse of the patented overcompensation/shortcomings routine.
Nice try. You fail....
You're not wanting to be insulted and yet you manage to be a hypocrite by throwing what you think are subtle jabs. Makes sense.
Secondly, when others were insulting you when you initially joined the debate, I steered clear. It wasn't until, and correct me if I'm wrong,you called me ignorant that I insulted you.
If you'd like to stay on topic, I have no issue with that, but don't try to play the role of a victim when you're just as guilty.
wasn't very subtle was it? Wasn't trying to be. Fine lets steer this back on course then, answer my question. I would like to know if you are infact married and are speaking about this subject with some personal knowledge of it ( oh and parents and friends marriages do not count...) I can tell you I am speaking about it from personal experiance, I'm married been through the classes for getting married and I've had multiple discussions with mutliple married couples regarding life in marriage. I've seen first hand how hard it is to have a sucessful marriage and I work at it daily. I came into the thread because everyone was crying bloody murder that *gasp* a married woman wanted a divorce and was going to get some money outta it. If you've never been married, how can you possibly have an informed idea of what it's like what comes with it? You can't build a rocket by watching someone else build one and you would need to have a firm understanding of all the mechanics involved to go out and tell someone else how to. So why is marriage different? The bottom line is not one of us in this thread has any real idea exactly what went on in that marriage, and not one of us is in any postition to start throwing stones at that woman for the money she stands to get from the divorce. I've said it before, there is not ONE victim in that up coming divorce. Now if it comes to light that she has been unfaithful in the marriage I'll be the first to say, yes hulk is a victim then, but as it sits there is no victim.
You can't possibly have read this thread in its entirety and still be asking me this question.
Go back to the beginning. Read.
Edit: Start at page#2.
and just to refresh your memory, I was the person who introduced the concept of prenuptial agreements into this debate. That's where you came in.
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