I guess thats what fame and money does to ya, she must think she can do better since shes all famous now
I guess thats what fame and money does to ya, she must think she can do better since shes all famous now
Prenups can be shot down by a Judge from what I have read, especially if there are kids involved.Originally Posted by redGT
/never married
I just want to call dibs on hitting it next^^
your wife must have taken your balls and put them in a jar where you would never find them agian after the first year.It's quite obvious that some ppl on here completely miss the whole idea behind marriage. When you get married, you're joining lives completely together-- in a sense "being one". Meaning all wealth, problems, joys etc belonging to both. By signing a prenup your saying exactly what someone else said, I don't trust you..here sign this so you won't screw me. That is a SUPURB way to begin a marriage. The problem isn't marriage, it's people rushing into that ****. I dated my wife for 7 years before I married her, I've known her close to 9. I've had 7 years (and yes I lived with her before hand) to get to know her, make sure this was what I wanted and all the other BS ppl try and cram into 1 year of dating (most of the time less). If people would take more time to really know the people they wed, then I bet the divorce rate would go down significantly. Also with a prenup, your entering into the marriage using the same mind set as a single person, yours and mine. Why bother getting married if thats your plan? Yes there are lots of ppl who take advantage of the divorce get half situation, but in all honesty it takes two ppl to get married. The one getting screwed is just as much to blame as the ass who did it. Had the other person taken the time to really know and understand the other, then the signs are there of the type of person you are going to marry etc...you wouldn't buy a business unless you did a considerable amount of research would you? So why would you rush into somehting as big a marriage? It's all easy and crap to say she's the bad one here, but honestly maybe the marriage isn't working out and she wanted out. It's her choice, and if she gets an ass load of money outta it, well sorry to say she is entitled to it just as much as he would be. They both agreed to the marriage and sharing, so hence no one is the victim here. I know my wife would NEVER take more money then she needed if we ever got divorced, (we have discussed this at length, and she said if I did more of the earning,which I do, then I should get more) and I would feel no matter what she is entitled to half of whatever we have. I entered into this marriage with her as equals, and I fully intened if it ever ends (god I hope not) to leave it as such. I think another problem today is men's attitudes twords women in this aspect. I feel as a man it is my duty to ensure that my wife and family is taken care of. Yes women wanted their equality, but in my eyes I see it as my wife should not have to worry about the house and bills and I take care of it. She helps yes, but if push came to shove I would do whatever I need to to take care of her. Call me old fasioned. Long story short yes there are bad apples who take adavantage of men, but on the whole the entire marriage thing is more the worth it.
fact of the matter is **** happens and she could wake up one day and decide that she just doesnt want to be with you and decides hey she wants half. i think this. that if you get married and she helps you make 30 million yes she is entitled to half but if you get married and you have 30 millino prior to that she isnt. id pay her 5 to get the hell out clean and clear because i have seen first hand how bad divorces can wipe out unsuspecting undeserving guys
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wow wasn't that a great response. Guess I'm in the whoreslounge I should've expected a lame insulting response. Fact of the matter is yes, **** happens, but living your life like it's GOING to happen gets you no where. So again, if your going to enter into a marriage with the attitude whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours, then why get married? Why bother, I mean it's going to happen right?
You want to insult me cause I love and trust my wife, go on. I have every confidence that she will never ever do anything like that to me, and if it does happen I'd like to look back and know I never lived my life in fear like someone was always out to get me. Guess what, I won't be that 50 year old cynical man who has a little money but lives with a dog and checks out the teenage girls. What is the point of living life if you can't take chances and try and trust other people. But hey, what do I know, I'm just a guy who happens to have "had my balls put in a jar".
Also, there is no such thing as victim in this losing half divorce thing, guess what? The guy who is " the victim" should've known what he was getting into. Women seriously don't just wake up one day and go " gee, I want half his stuff and i hate him" without some type of prior warning or sign. I refer you back to the part of my orginial post when I said ppl need take the time to really reall get to know whomever they are going to marry. 1 year its a crap shoot, but whatever. Women are evil *insert sarcasm tone*
Last edited by Turbo04; 11-25-2007 at 09:34 PM.
my opening was a joke but this is all business
this is a rather nieve statement. sorry to say it but i have witnessed first hand on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS women just do a complete 180. I'm glad that you and your wife have a great relationship and that you don't see it ever coming down to something horrific but i'm sorry people really do wake up an do a complete 180. you can take all the time you want but sometimes it just happens someone just decides that they want out.
here's a scenario for you. you own a multi million dollar company that you built from the ground up prior to getting married. after 25 years of marriage she decides she doesnt love you anymore and wants a divorce. you didnt do anything and she didnt do anything but she wants half. if she gets it your business will be forced to shut down and drive you to bankrupcy. your telling me youd give it to her? all because you should have known what you were getting into even though you couldnt have seen this **** coming even if you were miss cleo.
come on man get real there are all kinds of people out there and you never know who or what kind of crazy chic you will wind up with.
PRENUPS FTMFW
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ok Dr. Phil.......you sure your shaft and balls are still attached?It's quite obvious that some ppl on here completely miss the whole idea behind marriage. When you get married, you're joining lives completely together-- in a sense "being one". Meaning all wealth, problems, joys etc belonging to both. By signing a prenup your saying exactly what someone else said, I don't trust you..here sign this so you won't screw me. That is a SUPURB way to begin a marriage. The problem isn't marriage, it's people rushing into that ****. I dated my wife for 7 years before I married her, I've known her close to 9. I've had 7 years (and yes I lived with her before hand) to get to know her, make sure this was what I wanted and all the other BS ppl try and cram into 1 year of dating (most of the time less). If people would take more time to really know the people they wed, then I bet the divorce rate would go down significantly. Also with a prenup, your entering into the marriage using the same mind set as a single person, yours and mine. Why bother getting married if thats your plan? Yes there are lots of ppl who take advantage of the divorce get half situation, but in all honesty it takes two ppl to get married. The one getting screwed is just as much to blame as the ass who did it. Had the other person taken the time to really know and understand the other, then the signs are there of the type of person you are going to marry etc...you wouldn't buy a business unless you did a considerable amount of research would you? So why would you rush into somehting as big a marriage? It's all easy and crap to say she's the bad one here, but honestly maybe the marriage isn't working out and she wanted out. It's her choice, and if she gets an ass load of money outta it, well sorry to say she is entitled to it just as much as he would be. They both agreed to the marriage and sharing, so hence no one is the victim here. I know my wife would NEVER take more money then she needed if we ever got divorced, (we have discussed this at length, and she said if I did more of the earning,which I do, then I should get more) and I would feel no matter what she is entitled to half of whatever we have. I entered into this marriage with her as equals, and I fully intened if it ever ends (god I hope not) to leave it as such. I think another problem today is men's attitudes twords women in this aspect. I feel as a man it is my duty to ensure that my wife and family is taken care of. Yes women wanted their equality, but in my eyes I see it as my wife should not have to worry about the house and bills and I take care of it. She helps yes, but if push came to shove I would do whatever I need to to take care of her. Call me old fasioned. Long story short yes there are bad apples who take adavantage of men, but on the whole the entire marriage thing is more the worth it.
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ok Dr. Phil.......you sure your shaft and balls are still attached?
cute response. Yes I'm pretty sure, thanks for the concern
By all means if you feel a prenup will protect you then go on, get one. All that means in your situation that what ever the value of the company in question at the time of the marriage will be protected, your wife can (and will) argue that any additional income from said company after the signing of the prenup is fair game. After all, she was your wife and partner in that time correct? So in all fairness you could very well be faced with the same situation. Prenups are not rock solid and there are soooo many ways around it it's not funny.
yes ppl can change their minds, but a little up front work (read: getting to know the character of a person) you can be reasonably sure that if things dont work out, the other person should be willing to work out a resonable agreement for splitting the assets. After 25 years of marriage you'd be hard pressed to argue that your wife would NOT be entitled money from your business. Now 1 year, ok that is a little fishy on the spouse part, but 25 years? Come on, you spend 25 years with somone and don't feel obligated to split assest with them then it wasn't a good marriage in the first place was it? Should've been ended long long before then. I feel a prenup is a slap in the face to the other person, your saying "i don't trust you to not screw me if things turn bad". I don't see why you should get married in the first place if you have that mind set, how can you take vows saying you'll be there and merge all aspects of your lives, except your money. What is that? You should just stay single and date. Cheaper isn't it, after all isn't that whats important, money?
Last edited by Turbo04; 11-25-2007 at 11:14 PM.
obviously you have never been through a divorce and seen what it does to people. in short they change. divorce like war only brings out the worst in people not the best. they do things you thought they were never capable of hence why people get prenups. people see them as ways to protect themselves going in. when really they are a measure to protect themselves coming out cause once people get into a divorce they become dr. jekyll and mr. hyde
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no problem...just trying to find a reason to why your acting like a *****.cute response. Yes I'm pretty sure, thanks for the concern
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I have never been personaly in a divorce, but yes I've been party to my parents divorce (mom+dad, and my dad+stepmother) and I have had numerous friends get divorced, so I don't need a lecture on how emotions play into divorce, casue that is exactly what "brings out the worst" in ppl. But if you go into marriage with the "I don't want to get screwed" attitude, then it's off to a bad start already. No mattter what you say, if someone is presented with a prenup from the get go, it's planted in their mind already that the other person really isnt committed, and there are trust issues, just the way it is. If you are that uncertain about the future spouse and stability of the marriage, why bother? Seriously. It's cheaper and less headache to go through. Cause in the front end with something like prenups emotions are still involved, plus your telling the other person that you already do not trust them or have faith in the marriage, neither add to marriage longevity. I say if your not ready to have a marriage without a prenup, your not rdy for marriage. But thats my opinion.
no problem...just trying to find a reason to why your acting like a *****.
says the man with the very creative avatar. Just having a grown up discussion, don't worry I'll pick you and your friends up from the mall this friday, if tommy's mom can drop ya'll off
your not only a *****, you are also a pedo who wants me to be a lil boy so you can pick me up from the mall.... wowsays the man with the very creative avatar. Just having a grown up discussion, don't worry I'll pick you and your friends up from the mall this friday, if tommy's mom can drop ya'll off
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your not only a *****, you are also a pedo who wants me to be a lil boy so you can pick me up from the mall.... wow
oh look at that, Try harder to squeeze out some creative insults next time, k? Have a lovely evening.
Here incase we missed what I was hinting at, I was implying that you are acting like a little kid, and that if one of your friend's moms could drop you off somewhere, then I (much like your dad) could pick you and your friends up and bring you home. If the mall did not suit you, then perhaps the skating rink, movies, etc...insert your own hangout. But hey, yep you sure got me with the gay pedophile joke...damn.....
****ing **** just wants money.
Damned women gold diggers. All they see is $$$ in their spouses, and the court system is ****ED THE HELL UP!
Giving women all the money is bull****.
Hulk should just put her in a sleeper that she doesn't wake up from.
HA!
turbo04 speaks the truth, thats the way i feel about it as well.
Too long, didn't read. After the first line, your post pretty much said this to me.It's quite obvious that some ppl on here completely miss the whole idea behind marriage. When you get married, you're joining lives completely together-- in a sense "being one". Meaning all wealth, problems, joys etc belonging to both. By signing a prenup your saying exactly what someone else said, I don't trust you..here sign this so you won't screw me. That is a SUPURB way to begin a marriage. The problem isn't marriage, it's people rushing into that ****. I dated my wife for 7 years before I married her, I've known her close to 9. I've had 7 years (and yes I lived with her before hand) to get to know her, make sure this was what I wanted and all the other BS ppl try and cram into 1 year of dating (most of the time less). If people would take more time to really know the people they wed, then I bet the divorce rate would go down significantly. Also with a prenup, your entering into the marriage using the same mind set as a single person, yours and mine. Why bother getting married if thats your plan? Yes there are lots of ppl who take advantage of the divorce get half situation, but in all honesty it takes two ppl to get married. The one getting screwed is just as much to blame as the ass who did it. Had the other person taken the time to really know and understand the other, then the signs are there of the type of person you are going to marry etc...you wouldn't buy a business unless you did a considerable amount of research would you? So why would you rush into somehting as big a marriage? It's all easy and crap to say she's the bad one here, but honestly maybe the marriage isn't working out and she wanted out. It's her choice, and if she gets an ass load of money outta it, well sorry to say she is entitled to it just as much as he would be. They both agreed to the marriage and sharing, so hence no one is the victim here. I know my wife would NEVER take more money then she needed if we ever got divorced, (we have discussed this at length, and she said if I did more of the earning,which I do, then I should get more) and I would feel no matter what she is entitled to half of whatever we have. I entered into this marriage with her as equals, and I fully intened if it ever ends (god I hope not) to leave it as such. I think another problem today is men's attitudes twords women in this aspect. I feel as a man it is my duty to ensure that my wife and family is taken care of. Yes women wanted their equality, but in my eyes I see it as my wife should not have to worry about the house and bills and I take care of it. She helps yes, but if push came to shove I would do whatever I need to to take care of her. Call me old fasioned. Long story short yes there are bad apples who take adavantage of men, but on the whole the entire marriage thing is more the worth it.
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Yes, it very well is going to happen. Especially in this day and age. Marriage is no longer the institution it once was. Today, people are WAY more impatient then they were even 10 years ago. When people want something, they want it now. They don't have the patience to fix a marriage. They just get out of it.
Great, if you trust your wife like that and you are confident that in the future she won't find someone else, have a mid-life crisis or take a vacation with her friends and figure out that you just don't cut it for her anymore then right on. But the fact of the matter is, it does happen, alot. I would like to know I looked back and didn't live life without chances as well. But watching out for your finances (that you had when you came into the relationship) isn't living in fear, it's living smartly.
There isn't? Whatever bubble you live in, please send me an invite so that I can live in fantasyland with you. You say the guy should have known what he was getting into. Sorry man, most times it never works that way. People (girls and guys) will lie, lie, lie to get where and what they want. EVERY single person does it. The first 2 months of a relationship are the ones where you never see the real person they are. After 2 months you start seeing it unless they are good at hiding it. If they are, you have zero clue until you tie the knot and things changes. Other times, people just change. Happens every day, all the time. You may wake up one morning and figure out that you want to move to South America. People change, all the time.
IF you are secure in your relationship, great. I'm sure you will never explain problems or hangups on this web forum. This thread isn't that important. But I will guess that they are there. They are always there. Because it's human nature to ALWAYS want more and better. So all anyone is saying is that when the other wants more and better, she doesn't take half your hard earned stuff with her when she goes.
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thank you someone sees what i have been saying reps for joo
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Don't have to. you proved my point right there.oh look at that, Try harder to squeeze out some creative insults next time, k? Have a lovely evening.
Here incase we missed what I was hinting at, I was implying that you are acting like a little kid, and that if one of your friend's moms could drop you off somewhere, then I (much like your dad) could pick you and your friends up and bring you home. If the mall did not suit you, then perhaps the skating rink, movies, etc...insert your own hangout. But hey, yep you sure got me with the gay pedophile joke...damn.....
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Good morning,
Why is everyone trying to explain to me why you would WANT a prenup. I understand the reason you would get one. The only point I was making was I see it as when you get a prenup you straight away are sending the message to the other person that you do not trust them, and if that is the case why bother marrying somone? If your that worried about your money, just keep it all to yourself. Period. Your completely right that marriage isn't the sacred insitute it once was, people are more worried about materialistic things then marriage, case in point. But hey whatever, I'm the minority, and it was nice having a little discussion with the people who actually contrbuted something to it. Have a good post holiday monday, it's nasty as **** outside.
I might trust her today, 6 months, 5 years from now. but if something unforseen happens i dont want her taking everything i have worked hard for....
Exactly...
Hulk Hogan is living proof of the fact that you can have a marriage that lasts 30+ years and one day it goes sour for some unknown reason.....
and I'm sorry but I'm sure that she didn't help to earn ANY of the money HE has made through HIS career.....
I think women should be entitled to making their own damn way after a divorce as opposed to leaching off their soon to be ex's, more so when the woman is the one to file for the divorce....
regardless if she wasn't in the ring, since they were married, she IS entitled to half. Marriage is like a partnership.
yea where the person making all the money gets screwed
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She should be entitled to whatever money she has earned.
She earned nothing therefore she should get nothing.
I'm going to speak on the prenup/marrying a athlete/pro-ho deal.
Let me start by saying, I will gladly sign a prenup. A prenup is an excellent idea when the divorce rate is 50% now a days. Smart, independent women should look into one just as well as men. It's not an insult to women, IMO. I won't sign anything I don't agree with though. It's a 2 way street.
Let me say next that just because the women isn't "the star" or "the bread winner" of a relationship doesn't mean she hasn't "worked". Lots of times, women stay home to take care of the house and the children while the man works. Sometimes it's a better idea financially. Sometimes it's a matter of morality and how they want to raise their children. That's obviously an agreement that they make together based on what they think is best for THEIR FAMILY. If a divorce happens and this is the case, I believe the women is absolutely entitled to 1/2.
I also have a scenario that is personal but still carries over to a lot of women. Contrary to what people think they know about me, I helped start and maintain our business. I have worked long and hard...for $0 pay for years because it was a better idea financially to have me do the office work rather than hire out someone to do it. That was a decision we made together. It's a little different in our case currently since we aren't married, either way, I have contributed to our business equally. When it comes time for us to get married and if we both decide we want a prenup, I will be sure that my interest are protected on that matter. There are many "stars" or "bread winners" whose wives have done back office or background work for free, where someone else would have had to have been put on the payroll to do what she did....for "free" or in lieu of going out and getting a "job".
I agree with the fact that the women should have to get a job after divorce. You need to think about the fact that they may have to have some time to be qualified for a job in the work force. I'm 30. I quit college to work at the shop. I have no "job references" for the past 4 years. I have no "skills" aside from the bar tending I used to do. I sacrificed a college education for our business' best interest at the time. Now, if Dan and I split, I need a reasonable amount of time to get myself back in order. A college education takes at least 4 years per say. It's not fair to assume I am going to work at McDonald's just because my man's career never had to be put on hold for my college.
Last edited by Tracy; 11-26-2007 at 12:15 PM.
Your situation is far different from that of Linda Hogan.
YOU worked. She hasn't. She hasn't ever set foot in a ring for a match. He did.
She wasn't ever the face of any type of endorsement deal. He was.
She didn't appear in any movies. He did.
She doesn't have any residual income earning potential from a career or name. He does.
So, who is she to now benefit from his life long hard work.
He has the recurring health issues caused by said life long hard work.
She doesn't.
His name is worth some weight and obviously a few dollars. Hers is not.
All she has done is lay on her back while he impregnated her and spit out a few kids which I'm sure she didn't raise solely on her own. The argument that she mothered these kids and therefore she should be compensated for what she is SUPPOSED TO DO carries no weight with me....
To compare or attempt to liken your situation to hers is like comparing apples to oranges...Where as YOU ACTUALLY PUT IN TIME AND HARD WORK INTO A BUSINESS, she has benefited from a franchise if you will, that Hulk Hogan built on his own merit. I'm sorry but I don't think she deserves ANYTHING.
As far as prenups are concerned, I think that 99 percent of the time they are not made to benefit both parties. Usually, that's the point...and it's not just men that do it..Women have prenups drawn up as well. Ex: Britney Spears. Kfed didn't really get s h i t after they got divorced.....I'm sure his only saving grace is that he's getting child support.
So on your arguement, regardless if she was his partner when he made that money, since she did not star in the movies and be in the ring she's not entitled to anything? I'm not saying women like that should never have to work after the divorce, but they are entitled to something. Just because a woman does not work again doesn't mean that she isn't doing something to for the benifit of the relationship. We don't know what life was like in the hogan house. Maybe she did more then we are seeing. Certainly she worked behind the scenes to support and love her husband in many of the years when he was making "his" money. I could never look at my wife and say that if I made money going to work, she isn't going to get **** cause she did not go to work herself. I find that women provide support behind the scenes more often then not that is very hard to place a monetary value on, yet is impossible to replace.
short version : Yes women should have to work after a divorce, but most of the time they are entitled to some part of the marriage's wealth. (the exception being when they knowingly and willingly violated the vows of the marriage, i.e. cheated or something on that par) If they did something like that then hang em out to dry.
The fact is, you don't know what she contributed. I used my situation as an example. There are plenty of people who think they know my situation and what I may or may not have contributed. Some of those people think I am just some stupid woman who sits at the front desk as mooches off of my man...OR that think my endorsement deals are only because of Dan's talent or whatever it may be. Therefore, I don't deserve sh!t. No one except Dan and I really know what I have contributed and what I deserve. In a "stars" case, there is such a thing as a manager. Often times, you don't ever hear or see that manager publicly. Therefore, you may not even know they exist. Often times this manager is a significant other or family member. Maybe this was her job...which is similar to my job
You are right to say that she "spit out" his children. Raising children is hard work. Especially when the other half is constantly on the road, I'm sure. It is a job. A job that is gets little recognition and little appreciation. I'm not in their relationship so I'm going to keep it general. Generally speaking, when a woman stays home, it is a decision made between both parties for her to do so. There is probably a benefit of some sort for her to do so, or else she probably would have had to get a job. You can't think that a woman stays home for 30 years and her man doesn't agree with the situation.
There is a certain sacrifice that a woman makes when she stays home. Whether you want to agree with me or not. I experience it all of the time. If I leave now (we'll use me as an example), I have nothing. I have spent the last 7 years building up my man and his dreams and his career and even intertwined mine into that. In doing so, I have sacrificed all of the plans I had in the works for myself for the sake of a partnership. In the end, that's what a marriage is...a partnership.
Last edited by Tracy; 11-26-2007 at 01:19 PM.
That is one hell of a quote.
Hulk just got OWNED....no 1-2 counts either.....thats gotta suck
Tracy. You are no Linda Hogan. I know alot of the hard work you put in and there is probably about 90% more on top of what I know. In your case, you deserve everything you get because alot of the stuff you guys have would not have been possible without you.
Turbo04. No, she doesn't deserve something just because she was his partner. You say we don't know what it was like in the Hogan house, hell, we can watch 5 years of it on TV. Sure it maybe fancied up, but you can tell what kind of person she is by watching the TV show.
The whole problem isn't that she shouldn't get half of the accumulated wealth they made together. It's the fact that in todays society, that is never enough for the women. They not only want half, they want the house, the furniture, the car and then they want Alimony on top of that. Payments made to them each month for what they are "Accustomed" too. So you are basically paying for their lifestyle that you provided them while you were married. So not only did you pay for them during the marriage, you get to pay for them after too. Let's not even get into kids and child support.
Turbo04 you talk a big game now, but when the tables get turned, you will eat your words. None of us will probably see that day, but it will come. It always does. I'm not saying I hope it happens to you, just saying I won't be surprised if it does. It's inevitable. Like I said, human nature will always win out. And human nature is to always want better.
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Funny how people keep saying that being a mother, raising kids , and being a wife is a job BUT I have yet to see said "job" LISTED IN AN AD ANYWHERE...
Give me a fukin break!!!!
Why should a freaking female or male for that matter, be compensated for doing
wtf THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.? Seriously? WTF.
So, who should Hulk Hogan and many men across America be looking to for compensation for providing financially and emotionally for their children through out the course of their marriage?
She shouldn't be looking for handouts from a man that she can no longer stand to be with. She doesn't want him so she shouldn't want his money either. Point blank.
Thanks for the kind words
This conversation is all really speculation. No on here, not even me, knows what their house was like. We don't know what she is going to ask for or what Terry is willing to give without a fight. I want to speak generally. Generally speaking, a woman in this type of situation deserves 1/2 of the ACCUMULATED INCOME...unless they have paperwork that states otherwise. I don't believe a woman should live off of their ex-husband forever. She should have to get on with her life. That being said, it takes time and that should be taken into consideration. That's what alimony is for. It's up to a judge, a person who knows the law, to make the decision on how long that should be for based on all of the evidence presented. A man is supposed to help with the children and vice versa. Thats what child support is for. You don't like the way it is, blame the law
You have to remember, Hulk could have ended up a nobody. Linda was there for everything that happened. I will say I have noticed myself getting a little more high maintenance with the things that are happening to me. I feel the need to get my teeth straightened and whitened. I feel the need to get my hair done more often. I feel the need to tan and work out. I like having Coach purses, I like to eat steak dinners as much as I can.......................................I haven't always been this way. Things happen and people change. It's a consequence of the cycle of life and things that occur in ones life. I'm from the trailer park. I never wanted much of anything except a roof over my head. It's a little different now. To say you can tell how she is a correlate what she has done based on that is kind of far fetched. You may see my reality show one day. I hope that my hair and makeup don't reflect negatively on my hard work
If that's what she is supposed to do...then Terry should have stayed home, too
They obviously had an agreement for 20 years (or whatever). That's the point. She stayed home and he went out to work.
I can tell you this. I do all of the laundry and all of the cooking and cleaning. Is that what I am supposed to do? OR is that an agreement between Dan and I? I wonder how many loads of laundry Terry did. I wonder how many meals he cooked.
There's too much estrogen in this damn thread now....
Damn...
So forget for a second that we are talking about Linda Hogan. Let's say we are talking about some other woman, who has not worked, but stayed at home with the kids, done nothing but try and be good mother and wife. Supported and loved her family. The husband did not start out rich, but ended up making millions. Decided one day that he no longer loved this woman and wanted out. Going on yours and a lot of people's logic, she is entitled to NOTHING. She worked for years to make sure her family was strong and loving, but in the end it is torn apart because someone changed their mind. So now, having spent years doing nothing but raising a family, she has no means to support her self. That seem fair to you? If so I feel terrible for any wife/or future wife and family you may have. You can't draw a line and say X number of marriages the woman (or man in some cases) should get something if they divorce, and X number should not. The whole idea of a marriage is joining 2 lives into 1. That doesn't mean 67% of one life and 89% of the other. EVERYTHING. If you can't handle that, simple enough, don't get married.
As for eating my words, what big game am I talking? All i've done is voice my views on this subject, I'm not running around saying I'm right and everyone else is wrong. If something happened to my marriage and I got a divorce, well I would be crushed. But let's look at this way:
If I end up being sucessful in my views what do I get: A lifetime of happiness with someone I love, possibly kids and a bigger family down the line, being able to pass knowlege down the gererational line....ya know kinda things a little more important the money. Oh and not watching my back every second of the day cause the world is out to screw me.
Now if I were to follow some ppls views what do I get : The possiblity of keeping my money (losing half to a spouse is only one of many ways to lose your money), a bitter cynical materalistic outlook on life that everyone is out to get me so I better keep my money on lockdown, the remote chance that somoene out there can deal with my attitude and I'll be able to trust them enough to love and marry them...
thanks I'll take the chance at happpiness, guess we can see after we all die if I was succesful or not...well maybe cause I'll prob die, but you money men will more then likely have enough to keep death away...and my wife will have taken all mine.
Last edited by Turbo04; 11-26-2007 at 01:56 PM.
It's also funny to me how women want equality this, equality that but
play the what I'd like to call ( you saw it here first, ladies and gentlemen) gender role card.
You want to be treated as equal but when it's convenient you play the
" I'm woman and can't do for myself" bit. Seriously? Get real.
You can't have both. You're either a woman that wants to be an equal and you suck it up and take everything that being an equal brings to you or you play the defenseless female that can't do for herself....
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