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    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    Being hispanic in the US is hard, and you are seen as less than human.
    I've been in the U.S. longer than you have, and I've gone thru plenty of BS myself. That being said, I've NEVER once (even by the racist GF's Dad that threw me out of his house) been treated as "less than human". To be honest, that's looking at the glass half-empty from the beginning so you're simply self-propheticing.

    Your Puerto Rican? So would you outraged by someone calling you a burrito brother, or calling your kids little border jumpers? My grandfather looked white, played the white role. My mother looks black, she played the black role all of her life because she felt its a lot better being considered black than dominican [just another mexican to most]. It worked for them because there is a difference. I work in the club business. I go to clubs like Wild Bills and I am amazed at how things like fights are handled there, compared to how some of the securities and police react at the spanish clubs. I dont know what type of events or activities you go to, but next time you go out, take a look.
    Again, you obviously don't know me at all. I've been called every derrogatory name in the book. The way I look at it is this: If someone says something to me that needs me to reply and throw down, then it's handled then and I move on. If someone says something and it's not even worth my time, again it's handled and I move on. I own my own business and have a family to support. I have infinitely more things to get my blood pressure up about than trying to convert ignorant people. Even an ass whuppin won't change the way some people are wired. Why bother sometimes then?

    My point? You can spend the rest of your life talking about how you were treated wrong in front of 500 people at some night club and it still won't change a single thing. You can carry it with you to the grave. That too won't change anything. I'll be perfectly honest and tell you this: 99.9% of the time people that have run-ins with police, they DESERVE IT IMO. That includes me. We can justify everything, yet it still doesn't make wrongs right. Part of the reason this entire society has some of the problems it does is simply because they look for excuses first and real resolutions last. THAT was my entire point since the beginning with you. THIS guy is as guilty as I am long winded. His color has ZERO to do with what he did, why he did it, and what he should GET IMO. Even if his MOMMA was a share cropper slave that was rapped and beaten 100 years ago, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE OR JUSTIFY THAT HE KILLED 4 PEOPLE IN COLD BLOOD. It's a BS excuse, just like any other.

    The clan rallys and Neo Nazi events here in GA as recent as 2003, those guys are faking the hate
    First, noone said there wasn't any racism. Some of us are simply saying racism shouldn't be used as an EXCUSE for scumbags like this guy.

    BTW, Racists can assemble as right granted in the Constitution. As long as they're not physically hurting anyone, it is their right. You and I may not like it. We may not agree with it, but that is their right to assemble and scream and holler if they want. You don't have to go and listen, just like I'm not either. Legally, it's not much different than any other bi-partisan convention that ends up being nothing more than a racial pep-rally too. Whites are not the only ones that have hate rallys.

    And criminals are being let off too easy? How many of you have actually been locked up? How many of you have served 15 year sentences? Think about where you were 15 years ago. Do you think a man can go back into society after living in a state prison for even 5 years? Every night fearing rape? Being in a room the size of your bathrooms 20 hours a day? Man, being locked up is something that cant be described. And they dont lock medium criminals up with big criminals, understand? The guy that is there for DUI is locked up with the guy for murder. The guy from forgery with the guy for sodomy, the guy for insurance fraud is there with the guy for armed robbery. So who do you think the ones who are getting "Butt Raped" are?
    Again, if you want sympathy for criminals, tell them to look it up in the dictionary between shit and syphillis. It's part of the price you pay when you play. All these liberal bleeding hearts want all these concessions for jailed criminals. I say BS. They are there for a reason. It's not supposed to be a resort. It's a jail for crying out loud. If you got too drunk and have to sit next to "real" criminal for a few hours, it happens. I've done it. Because of that nasty experience I also vowed never to put myself in a spot where I could go back and sit next to Bubba. I've managed to do just that so far. So, the deterrent factor worked on me. I didn't like it, it wasn't cushy, and I don't wanna go back.

    But I guess I will be criticized for being too kind to criminals, but my point is that just throwing people in a box doesnt work. The system needs reworking.
    I somewhat agree, but what would you suggest? With the amount of repeat offenders, being lenient isn't working either. So what would suggest? Spend bizillion dollars on what?


    Things like NOLO/1st Offender need to expunge arrest when the terms are finished seeing that A NO LO OR 1st OFFENDERS PLEA IS NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT. Look it up, dont assume it.
    Actually it's YOU that needs to look it up. I KNOW what NOLO is. I'll go ahead and quote a law book for you though:

    "nolo contendre definition – in a criminal lawsuit, nolo contendre is where a defendant neither admits not denies a crime but accepts punishment as though he or she were GUILTY."

    Just like I said before. When you plead NOLO, it is technically an admonishment of guilt by default. You simply are rewarded some type of leniency by the courts for not prolonging due process. Expongement or reduced fines or reduced jail time or something less than you would get if you were to go thru a trial and found GUILTY anyway.

    As for 1st Offenders Status? You need to look that one up too. First Offenders status can only be granted AFTER you plead out a charge. It is a SENTENCE, so by definition a decision HAS to occur before a SENTENCE. Follow? It also has to be GRANTED by the court and can only be done once in your life. It is usually GRANTED to someone who has never gotten in trouble before, hence it's name. It also affords you the luxury of expongement of your record, IF you don't get in any additional trouble during the entire term of the SENTENCE.

    So to summarize 1st Offender Status: It's a SENTENCE to a charge. You can't have a SENTENCE w/o a plea or decision. So therefore, in order to GET 1st Offender Status you have to admit GUILT, otherwise there would be NO reason for a SENTENCE.
    Last edited by Jaimecbr900; 03-13-2005 at 09:54 PM.

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