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    Quote Originally Posted by richw131
    Well the words you type on the screen is all we have to go by, no isn't it? Any those words indicate said "chip on shoulder".
    Not sure how long you have been on this forum, but I am one of the main people who say dont try to jerk the police. The main ones who say if you dont obey the law and get busted, dont bitch and whine. If you get a ticket, be man, do the terms, and move on. Read other threads.

    Then you should have problems with the specific officers that are racist, not the entire "law".
    Who says I have a problem with the law? I think I have an understanding of the law pretty much better than anyone. All of my gripes have been about officers acting with prejudice, not the law operating with prejudice.

    Is this the only possability? I doubt it. Funny how certain people have lots of problems and blame it on the most convienent things, with no blame on themselve or the situations that they put themselve into.
    You dont know me, so why exactly do you doubt it? Funny how certain people? LOL, ok. So are you saying a black kid driving a pretty nice car that barely looks 18 doesnt draw attention, period? I dont really speed when I drive, dont play my music loud as I invested in good soudn instead of deep bass, tags are always up to date, seatbelt always on.

    I live in a neighborhood where the houses average about $115,000 brand new. My driveway includes my mothers porsche, sisters mercedes, my lexus. A plasma TV glows out my living room window. The police are in my neighborhood everyday for one reason or the other, you dont think our house gets looked at twice? LOL, the police LOVE stopping my family to "ask questions". Me and my father are laying hardwood floor in his bedroom and I was unloading it into the garage and I was stopped and asked for the reciept by LPD. Yup, the situations I put myself in and try to blame other people.

    You dont know me, you are making assumptions.


    So you are assuming it could only be a racial thing?

    Not saying it is all "cupcakes", the world is not even close to that, just indicating that it isn't quite the "racial gloom and doom" you indicate.
    Racial gloom? I just say shit happens. Racial glood is your word, not mine. These are things that happen to me in my life. Like I said, you have to be in one of these situations in your life. Its easy for one person to be like "Yea, people blow this racism thing out of proportion" if you've never experienced it. It hurts and is discouraging.

    You seem to indicate that there is a difference because of his race, between Tampa and here. Leaving race aside, what does the "average UGA college boy" look like.
    Im not even going to play this game. The guy looks white, and dresses like he is out of an old navy commercial. You cant leave race aside. Hes Cuban and people think hes white so people tell their bullshit jokes to him and expect him to laugh. They use all types of words to describe hispanics in front of him not realizing he is 100% cuban. he will tell you straight up there is a differnce

    [quote]Have you served a 15 year sentence? Judging by your age posted in you profile, the answer is No. Yes, they are being let off too easy. The average criminal get out on probation, while only serving less than half of his sentence. If we are only going to hold them to less than half of what we say, then what we sentence them to is a bullshit number. As soon as the jails get crowded, the government starts releasing the prisoners early. Do you think none of them end up commiting a crime again?

    Well, seeing as there are honest people out here taking the $6/hr job with families and trying to make it work, I expect an ex-con to do the same. Should they get "special treatment?[/b]

    Have I served a 15 year sentence? Nope, never. My uncle? Has been serving more than half of his 20 year sentence though. Talk to him all the time. Got paroled after 15 years, and cant adjust to society. Just like my cousin Antonio who was falsely accused by CPD and has been locked up for the past 4 years in Joliet, IL. Someone who was locked up before, actually found a decent paying job, was living life right, and then was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    You are wrong. The average criminal doesnt only serve less than half of their sentence. Prisoners are NOT commonly let out just because the jail is overcrowded. Gwinnett Coutny has people sleeping on the cement floor and they are arresting people for tresspassing and loiterring [sp]. Believe it or not there are lots of people who learn their lessons from being arrested, everyone isnt a criminal forever.

    As a matter of fact, there are lots of people who have records and arent really criminals. You need an understanding of how the law works. There are lots of people who are innocent, or guilty of lesser charges but the DA gives you a deal that scares the hell out of you. Serving 1 year with 4 on probation afterward is a lot better than gambling and possibly serving a full 15.

    You dont see a problem with people not being able to get a job that pays better than $6/hr? When more than half of one weeks paycheck would go to the state? How many people do you know are content with the fact that theyll probally never break $8/hr their entire life? God forbid you cant find a job because you HAVE A RECORD! If you cant find employment, how do you pay the $123 a month for probation, and the $15 extra for random drug test? You just say "Hey, Im broke, sorry!" that puts you right back in jail. Special treatment? Hell no. But once you serve your sentence, you have paid your debt to society? Or should you be branded for life??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    Who says I have a problem with the law? I think I have an understanding of the law pretty much better than anyone. All of my gripes have been about officers acting with prejudice, not the law operating with prejudice.
    I am glad you are such an expert. Is it because you have/are studying the law, or a lawyer?


    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    LOL, ok. So are you saying a black kid driving a pretty nice car that barely looks 18 doesnt draw attention, period?
    You might want to read the words that I wrote again. I do not beleive that is what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    I live in a neighborhood where the houses average about $115,000 brand new. My driveway includes my mothers porsche, sisters mercedes, my lexus. A plasma TV glows out my living room window. The police are in my neighborhood everyday for one reason or the other, you dont think our house gets looked at twice?
    You have stated several cars and things you and your family owns in more than 1 post. Why? I do not really care that you have "x" or "y" car. The neighborhood you choose to live in makes no difference to me. To each their own. I listed my priorities different than you. That is my choice. I just do not see why I need to know this information and it does not have bearing on the original topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    So you are assuming it could only be a racial thing?
    Read what I wrote again. I am indicating it doesn't ALWAYS have to be a racial thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    Racial gloom? I just say shit happens. Racial glood is your word, not mine. These are things that happen to me in my life.
    O.K., as you say "shit happens". That is a rather blanket statement, don't you think? I would love to use this everyday as the cause of anything bad that happened to me. That would take any blame off myself. I choose not to do that, as there is a deeper reason for many things, and some ARE my fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    Im not even going to play this game. The guy looks white, and dresses like he is out of an old navy commercial. You cant leave race aside. Hes Cuban and people think hes white so people tell their bullshit jokes to him and expect him to laugh. They use all types of words to describe hispanics in front of him not realizing he is 100% cuban. he will tell you straight up there is a differnce
    Well not playing a game, but indicating a point.

    P.S. If it was a game, you just played it in the above response.....

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    My uncle? Has been serving more than half of his 20 year sentence though. Talk to him all the time. Got paroled after 15 years, and cant adjust to society. Just like my cousin Antonio who was falsely accused by CPD and has been locked up for the past 4 years in Joliet, IL.
    No response.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    You are wrong. The average criminal doesnt only serve less than half of their sentence. Prisoners are NOT commonly let out just because the jail is overcrowded. Gwinnett Coutny has people sleeping on the cement floor and they are arresting people for tresspassing and loiterring [sp].
    I was speaking nationally. [SARCASM]Here is a great idea. Why not have them serve the "ENTIRE SENTENCE" that they were given. Wow, that would be interesting.[/SARCASM]

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    Believe it or not there are lots of people who learn their lessons from being arrested, everyone isnt a criminal forever.
    Yes, and there are several who do not...

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    As a matter of fact, there are lots of people who have records and arent really criminals.
    Yeah, and everyone in jail is innocent...Right.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    You need an understanding of how the law works. There are lots of people who are innocent, or guilty of lesser charges but the DA gives you a deal that scares the hell out of you. Serving 1 year with 4 on probation afterward is a lot better than gambling and possibly serving a full 15.
    If they plea bargained for a lesser charge and sentence, they are still criminals. They are/were convicted of the crime.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    You dont see a problem with people not being able to get a job that pays better than $6/hr? When more than half of one weeks paycheck would go to the state? How many people do you know are content with the fact that theyll probally never break $8/hr their entire life?
    This argument is so full of bullshit it is sad. Content with an $8/hr job? TOUGH! There are millions of people working low income jobs with families, that do not commit crimes. Why are "criminals" better? Sorry, but if you do the crime, you take the concequences. PERIOD. I believe you even stated before that you should "buck up and take it like a man".

    Quote Originally Posted by FrnkPwrs
    If you cant find employment, how do you pay the $123 a month for probation, and the $15 extra for random drug test? You just say "Hey, Im broke, sorry!" that puts you right back in jail. Special treatment? Hell no. But once you serve your sentence, you have paid your debt to society? Or should you be branded for life??
    The costs that come with probation, ARE part of the "debt to society". WTF?
    Last edited by richw131; 03-13-2005 at 10:53 PM.
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