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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I've recently started hearing more and more people say they "need" their assault rifles to protect themselves against the government.

    Do many people feel this way? I laughed pretty hard at first and then saw someone was being serious.

    How would your assault rifle protect you and why would the government take over? This isn't Nazi Germany, it's the United States in 2013. There's not even a valid reason for the government to "take over."

    I could care less what's banned, just curious as to the reasoning behind this government protection.
    Its a baseless argument the Right uses to push their agenda, much like banning guns solves crime problems which the left pushes.

    I dont think anyone can make a rational argument that they need an AR15 to combat a tyrannical govt. That war was lost 70 years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Its a baseless argument the Right uses to push their agenda, much like banning guns solves crime problems which the left pushes.

    I dont think anyone can make a rational argument that they need an AR15 to combat a tyrannical govt. That war was lost 70 years ago
    Where does it stop? What do you do when you cant make an argument for or against something?

    why do we need cars that go over 55? why do we need portions of food bigger than 500 calories? why do we need yards bigger than a 1/2 acre? why do we need more money? More people drown a year than they do from AR15 fire, do we ban swimming? Do we ban sports on account of injury? Most wars are fought over religious beliefs, ban religion? ban sky diving? ban drinking? The 2nd amendment is so important because it's the foundation of all amendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Where does it stop? What do you do when you cant make an argument for or against something?

    why do we need cars that go over 55? why do we need portions of food bigger than 500 calories? why do we need yards bigger than a 1/2 acre? why do we need more money? More people drown a year than they do from AR15 fire, do we ban swimming? Do we ban sports on account of injury? Most wars are fought over religious beliefs, ban religion? ban sky diving? ban drinking? The 2nd amendment is so important because it's the foundation of all amendments.

    "i prefer dangerous freedom to peaceful slavery" - Thomas Jefferson.
    you missed my previous post or didnt read it.

    I never said we should ban or outlaw anything, what im saying is youll NEVER win that argument, and if you think about it rationally, there is ZERO chance the military decides to go door to door to take arms and we end up back in 1776.

    Seriously.

    I equate an all out arms ban or needing an AR15 to defend myself against the govt to about the chances i have at winning the lottery twice in the same month. It just simply WONT happen. its not even close. States would secede from the Union FIRST before that even happened. Military is historically PRO GOP, the ban would go toward the SC first, etc. So many checks and balances. To me it sounds like the whole NWO conspiracy theory, its just not based in reality.

    The fact are that banning or restricting guns doesnt solve anything, leave it at that. I am in favor of the current restrictions we have like no auto weapons to the public without Class 3, no grenades or munitions, etc. No need to go past that.

    To answer your other argument, if the founding fathers had a constitutional amendment that said "thou shalt never have thy right to go 300 mph infringed upon" then you could make a case against speed limits. Currently , no one NEEDS a 500whp GTR, but we sell one, and we regulate its emissions, and its speed on the roads via traffic laws.

    you also have to realize that the founding fathers worst enemy was a musket that could maybe fire 2 shots a minute, not the 100 rounds per second guns we have now. They designed the constitution to be a living breathing thing that evolves with the times, i think our current restrictions are in line with that thinking
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    why do we need cars that go over 55? why do we need portions of food bigger than 500 calories? why do we need yards bigger than a 1/2 acre? why do we need more money? More people drown a year than they do from AR15 fire, do we ban swimming? Do we ban sports on account of injury? Most wars are fought over religious beliefs, ban religion? ban sky diving? ban drinking? The 2nd amendment is so important because it's the foundation of all amendments.
    If people started stealing corvettes and driving through classrooms to murder 30 people at a time, or started kidnapping people and wholesale drowning them in backyard pools, then yeah, im sure people would try to ban or restrict that stuff.

    Sports is voluntary, if you dont want to get injured playing basketball you dont play basketball. if you dont want to get fat, dont eat 500 calories worth of candy.

    One cannot simply choose to NOT get shot its out of your control, which is why its a crime.

    Now youre equating choices of lifestyle with crime. Doesnt make sense
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