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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    The English said the same thing about the rebels in 1776. Instead of the French to backstop and help supply us against King George, we have China stopping funding. Cant buy bullets or pay troops with no money. Desertions within the military would also be monumental. You can look at any civil war in history to see this.
    ...And then modern technology brought the milita automatic weapons, tanks, planes, and eventually warheads and strike fighter jets and tactical bombers and UAVs. China owns so little of our debt, it wouldn't make a dent in any kind of civil war funding. Desertion wouldn't happen on as large a scale as you think. We've seen as recently as 2011 that police forces have no problem silencing American dissidents.

    A lot more similarities than you think, short the maniacal dictator of course. Think of the stressors within the German population before the war. Lack of a national purpose. Massive debt and a floundering economy. Harsh, partisan political climate. All of these are present in the US right now. What we dont have is the unifying agenda like Hiter's Germany did.
    ...and a lot fewer than you think. The German empire had literally just collapsed not even 20 years prior. It wasnt like the last president they had systematically made a couple people ridiculously rich and their proletariat payed in the back end. They were annihilated in WW1 and were under a massive reconstructionary period. Germany was still reeling from the Treaty of Versailles. This sparked German nationalism, which was heavy with rhetoric not unlike the far-right wing rhetoric we hear today, add to that Hitlers natural charisma. It also took a shit ton of constitutional circumvention to make him a dictator, vis-a-vis the Enabling Act, or Das Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reichwhich, more or less gave the appointed chancellor unprecedented control over all the branches of government.

    So what you're missing is an empirical collapse, reconstructionary period, an übernationalist dictator, and the abolishment of the checks and balance system we know as the legislative, judicial, and executive branch of government. In short, a HUGE HUGE difference between modern day democratic constitutional republic of the US, and Nazi Germany.

    Hope that clears things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    ...and a lot fewer than you think. The German empire had literally just collapsed not even 20 years prior. It wasnt like the last president they had systematically made a couple people ridiculously rich and their proletariat payed in the back end. They were annihilated in WW1 and were under a massive reconstructionary period. Germany was still reeling from the Treaty of Versailles. This sparked German nationalism, which was heavy with rhetoric not unlike the far-right wing rhetoric we hear today, add to that Hitlers natural charisma. It also took a shit ton of constitutional circumvention to make him a dictator, vis-a-vis the Enabling Act, or Das Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reichwhich, more or less gave the appointed chancellor unprecedented control over all the branches of government.

    So what you're missing is an empirical collapse, reconstructionary period, an übernationalist dictator, and the abolishment of the checks and balance system we know as the legislative, judicial, and executive branch of government. In short, a HUGE HUGE difference between modern day democratic constitutional republic of the US, and Nazi Germany.

    Hope that clears things up.
    You forgot to mention that Hitler didn't ban guns, they were already heavily restricted during the Weimer republic and if anything, Hitler eased the gun restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    ...And then modern technology brought the milita automatic weapons, tanks, planes, and eventually warheads and strike fighter jets and tactical bombers and UAVs. China owns so little of our debt, it wouldn't make a dent in any kind of civil war funding. Desertion wouldn't happen on as large a scale as you think. We've seen as recently as 2011 that police forces have no problem silencing American dissidents.

    ...and a lot fewer than you think. The German empire had literally just collapsed not even 20 years prior. It wasnt like the last president they had systematically made a couple people ridiculously rich and their proletariat payed in the back end. They were annihilated in WW1 and were under a massive reconstructionary period. Germany was still reeling from the Treaty of Versailles. This sparked German nationalism, which was heavy with rhetoric not unlike the far-right wing rhetoric we hear today, add to that Hitlers natural charisma. It also took a shit ton of constitutional circumvention to make him a dictator, vis-a-vis the Enabling Act, or Das Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reichwhich, more or less gave the appointed chancellor unprecedented control over all the branches of government.

    So what you're missing is an empirical collapse, reconstructionary period, an übernationalist dictator, and the abolishment of the checks and balance system we know as the legislative, judicial, and executive branch of government. In short, a HUGE HUGE difference between modern day democratic constitutional republic of the US, and Nazi Germany.

    Hope that clears things up.
    how can you say this and take yourself seriously? Obama is the closest thing to a dictator we will probably ever have on american soil. His "charisma" is literally the only thing that got him elected. Everything that comes out of Obama's mouth is rhetoric...... The basis of your party might as well be calling everyone who opposes them racist.

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