God either does it himself or makes his people do it for him throughout the OT. Need some reference quotes? LolOriginally Posted by simontibbett
God either does it himself or makes his people do it for him throughout the OT. Need some reference quotes? Lol
Geoff- you know what you believe, so do I. These guys are making a clown out of you and laughing at everything you have to say (and the bible also states that this is what people will do to Christians). Let it be man. You did your part. When time comes around we will see who was right and who was wrong. Simple as that. I stopped wasting my time last thread lol.
We're mocking him (or at least I am) because he doesn't have anything intelligent to say and he repeatedly spouts fiction as fact. "Jesus literally walked on water" is not intelligent at all. "Creation myth" is not intelligent at all. Not by anyone's standards. And it's rather hilarious when he comes in here and says "blank, you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation" and then turns right around and says "evolution is a myth". Lol
I understand people have different viewpoints, but there's a difference between two viewpoints based in reality and pure pseudo-scientific mythology.
No, it's not intelligent, just impossible.
As much as we would all like to believe in whatever it is each person would like to believe, ultimately you believe in something. Faith is observed in both the scientific and religious/spiritual realms. To believe and be certain of what it is you don't see. The Matrix is beautiful in illustrating Faith.
Faith, by it's very definition is a belief in something without evidence, a belief in something whether it's true or not. The thing about science is, that it's true whether you believe in it or not.
Well, [in science] it's only true until you find the next thing to debunk what was previously true. So in other words, everything in science is true until something else proves to be truer (more true) or completely false. Basically, making truth relative and never a constant truth. Therein again, faith in practice.
Not really faith because we have evidence to support it or it's not science. Theories change because of the ways we observe things. We can observe things now in ways we couldn't 50 years ago. Evolutionary synthesis will always be how we explain how animals evolve, but back when Darwin pioneered the Darwinian evolution model, they could only see so much with the technology they had then. Now you can split apart DNA and map genomes and look at evolution on a deeper level. Just like newtons gravity changed into relativity. Nothing really changed, we can just see more about it
are you being sarcastic or have you not read the bible?
I haven't read it start to finish and never ran across that or heard anyone mention that. Post a direct quote.
I usually dont like to copy and paste from these type of websites, but i dont feel like writing them all out. so here ya go. Or you can just go read Deuteronomy.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Sinfix: shame on you for copying/pasting from sites that are anti-christian and are known to twist scripture and take it out of context. The poison spread from those sites is ridiculous. Have we not already had this same exact discussion? I suppose I have to give another Bible study on here. As we discussed before, you are not exactly an expert on spirituality or the Bible. I will address this subject again shortyly.
Blank: it requires faith to believe that scientists are offering the final truth on a subject. Today's truth is tomorrows revised theory. You still haven't provided any evidence as to evolution being observed. Yet, when I quote a study which says otherwise you dismiss it as fiction. A hard headed blind man is what you portray yourself to be.
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that's the first time i've copy and pasted, i usually just link the scripture and let people look it up themselves, however they see fit. regardless of whether or not you feel the bible condones or condemns rape, it does in fact mention it. However, it chose not mention it in the commandments. The satanic bible did.
I'll go see if I can find any of that in my bible.
Any scripture can be taken out of context. Especially without reading the entire passage or having an understanding of Jewish history and tradition. Yet more importantly, is understanding the entirety of the message rather than a single part. The Bible doesn't condone rape, murder, or slavery. Did these things happen? Yes. We're they punishable? Yes
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Simon: it's in there, yet that is only a small portion shown out of the entire picture and it's out of context
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I guess its a good thing he can look in his own bible and see the exact same scripture for himself huh? Lol.
Maybe it requires faith for you because you dont understand how science works. Me on the other hand, I know exactly how to obtain the same information these scientists get. You have yet to show me any purely scientific studies, just more pseudo-science intelligent design BS. Find me some scientific studies dismissing evolution from non-ID sources.Blank: it requires faith to believe that scientists are offering the final truth on a subject. Today's truth is tomorrows revised theory. You still haven't provided any evidence as to evolution being observed. Yet, when I quote a study which says otherwise you dismiss it as fiction. A hard headed blind man is what you portray yourself to be.
Funny, its always out of context when we point your bible out to be nothing but drivel. But when you use scripture from the same chapters in the bible to condemn homosexuals or dismiss evolution--"Its right here! This is what god said! This is how I live my life" This is called cherry picking.
So, I'm suppose to accept what you and the scientific community presents as evidence and when presented with evidence fromChristians, you call it circumstantial or completely false.
Surely he can look up the scripture in his own Bible. But without understanding of Jewish tradition and the entirety of the Mosaic Law, then any kind of negative interpretation can be understood. Blank you have no clue about faith or christianity. You have displayed your lack of biblical or Christian knowledge time and again. I don't understand how science works? I know that science without observable evidence is not science at all. I provided you with an article and a direct quote that stated after 600 generations of fruit fly breeding and 40,000 generations of bacteria, no significant evidence of evolution was observed. Should I provide that quote yet again? Or are you to thick to comprehend a statement made by a evolution believing expert on genetics? I have not said anything about my beliefs as far as creation goes. I for sure have not said anything about "creation science" or intelligent design. You see, I believe in absolute truths, not truths that can be modified to fit. I see many new models and names and theories for evolution, it never ends. I also never once used my faith to go against homosexuality or evolution. Please quote me where I did.
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So IN context what do those mean? Explain it to me with Jewish tradition and the entirety of the Mosaic Law in mind, because I don't know much about either.
Obviously sites will take pieces out and make them look bad, someone that wants a real argument against religion would do this research themselves though and compile a real argument with real facts on history.
I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I'm just honestly looking for an answer. lol
Some of the verses pasted above are clearly not thought through though with the comments below, they're not written the same as we would write something today and like I said I'll go find it in an actual bible to read ALL of it.
It's all in how one interprets it. As far as i know, no one has the original copy of the "Bible". It's been interpreted and rewritten over thousands of years. Parts of it contradict the original statements, so pick and choose what parts you want to believe. All the people I've personally seen who claim to see/hear talking burning bushes, talking snakes and people walk on water are on hardcore drugs. I'd bet my paycheck they smoked some pretty good shit back in the day while writing that book.
EXACTLY!!! That's the main reason why it's hard for a realist to completely trust it's writings as fact. Later, QD.
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...and the exact reason I don't think the book should hold as much of a purpose these days.
Simontibbett: it would be a lot of information for me to post on here, but it you are truly curious, read the thread under "news and politics" titled "are we blind, or playing stupid". I had a debate there about rape and slavery in the Bible. I also went into great length to describe Jewish tradition and Mosaic Law. You will also see how some of the atheists here show their knowledge of scripture, or lack there of. Slavery and rape are in the Bible as is "murder". Rape was punishable by death and slavery then was not what slavery in modern terms was. Slaves were to be treated very well under the "golden rule" and there was punishment for abuse. Also, slaves were to be set free every 7 years. What some here label as "murder" was realistically casualties of war. It was also punishment for sin. The wages of sun is death, it always has been. God sent the Israelites to pass judgement on idol worshiping nations that sacrificed their children. These nations were sinful and paid the price for sin....death. But don't be swift to judge. God also passes judgement on His own people, I.E. the story of David and the many times the people of Israel are taken captive as slaves. As the New Testament clearly puts it, " e Ed.)
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" 1peter 4:17
I can tell you this my friend. The Bible is not a buffet which one can pick and choose what they like and disregard that which they find irrelevant. No personal interpretation is needed. One need nothing more than to read it for himself as the words are printed on the page. If you own a Bible, read it for yourself. Faith and salvation are to be worked out by each individual. Don't leave it up to men or a church to guide you. God is the guide and Jesus is the blueprint. It seems these days that the Bible is no longer relevant, and as each day passes that idea become more true. Yet, the Bible clearly speaks of this...
"2For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Janness and Jambress folly was also.
******10Now you followed my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, patience, love, perseverance, 11persecutions, and sufferings, such as happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium and at Lystra; what persecutions I endured, and out of them all the Lord rescued me! 12Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. 13But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. "
I leave you with this, read for yourself, pray for understanding, let no man mislead you, and by all means; look always unto Jesus, the Author of our faith. God bless!
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The Bible has not been "interpreted" many times or "rewritten". What it has been is translated to many different languages. That does not mean the message has changed. For example, I am 100% Romanian and speak it fluently. In my language, good night is "nuopte buna". Literally translated it is "night good". Did that change the meaning? I think not. The Bible as a "book" holds so much of a "purpose" these days not because of the ink on the pages; but rather the Divine inspiration. As Jesus said, " Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass". It is the Divine message and influence of God that brought Christianity Fromm 600 million in 1910 to 2.3 billion in 2012.
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The only problem is that you can not sit there and say that the Bible has not been interpreted. As far as I know, the English language has not been around since the Biblical days. So to say that there is no chance the Bible could have been misinterpreted is quite a bit naive, yes?
Also, I believe God would be the blueprint and Jesus the guide.
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QD: yes and no. You see, the Bible is interpreted every Sunday across America. That interpretation is called a sermon. One can tell if an interpretation is correct or not by double checking the scriptures themselves. For example, if a Baptist minister one Sunday says, " Jesus taught if someone does you wrong, get back at him". Then I can go back into scripture and see what Jesus actually said. That would be an example of false message and misinterpretation. Does that happen? Absolutely. I am no fan boy of modern Christianity or the progressive church movement. What you are describing though is not interpretation but translation. If one wanted to test the authenticity of scripture, then one would read a Hebrew or Greek translated Bible as those were the first two languages the message was given in. The dead sea scrolls are also the oldest surviving translation of scripture, also in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. A scholar would only have to view the scriptures written in the first language they were written in and then compare it to modern English translation to test the accuracy. Even a layman can view the Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic texts with a hebrew/Greek/Aramaic to English dictionary to test it. Of course controversy can arise from these scrolls. But then it goes back to an original debate, how much evidence is enough evidence? To each his own I suppose.
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Yes and no( to your question of Jesus writing the Bible). Obviously the scriptures were penned by men, but the were Divinely inspired. As no proof can be given for or against this, it falls back on a matter of faith.
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Atheists lack of knowledge of scripture huh? You didnt even know the bible has been edited. I've clearly shown my knowledge of your scripture is greater than yours. You just choose to interpret it differently, and your interpretation is the "correct" interpretation.
I dont think you understand what slavery is. I think you imagine that slavery in the 18-19th century was all brutally oppresive. This is not the case. None the less, slavery is slavery, 1st century or 21st century.Rape was punishable by death and slavery then was not what slavery in modern terms was. Slaves were to be treated very well under the "golden rule" and there was punishment for abuse. Also, slaves were to be set free every 7 years. What some here label as "murder" was realistically casualties of war.
This is what we take issue with. There's a lot of trivial stuff the bible considers sin: Working on sunday, wearing blended fabrics, cutting your beard. Think I should be killed for wearing my favorite polyester shirt?It was also punishment for sin.
So why do believers pick gay marriage to crusade against, and not barber shops doing hot later shaves on men? Only one of those is a sin according to the bible, and I'll give you a hint, it involves a razor and shaving cream.I can tell you this my friend. The Bible is not a buffet which one can pick and choose what they like and disregard that which they find irrelevant. No personal interpretation is needed.
Like I've said before, its easy to predict the future when you make broad and incredibly vague predictions.It seems these days that the Bible is no longer relevant, and as each day passes that idea become more true. Yet, the Bible clearly speaks of this...
Unfortunately It has. It has been revised many times, entire books have been omitted, and it has been translated numerous times. Romani, Hungarian, and German, Romainas 2 recognised languages, are all viable. We're talking about a translation from many different languages that are no longer viable, into different versions of English that are no longer viable.
The version of english we speak has only been around for a few hundred years. Modern english has only been around since around 1400. I have a feeling some believers think "white Jesus" was prancing around back in the 1st century speaking Shakespearian english. Lol.
As spirituality increases so does understanding of scripture. I can point to you something very interesting in the first chapter of Genesis. You know the whole argument, " we'll if God knew man was gonna rebel, why create man at all?" we'll, what if I told you that before God created sinful man, He made Himself Jesus as the sacrifice for sin?
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Show me evidence that the Bible has been edited. The finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls is evidence to the contrary. You have more knowledge of scripture than I? Ha, you demonstrated just how much knowledge you have when you couldn't even state how Old Testament believers achieved salvation. You have no knowledge of scripture, what you have is the google search bar. That does not suffice as "knowledge" of a subject sir. I understand what slavery is, but I can't argue with a black man how much of an injustice the modern form was from biblical slavery. How long has it been since you were in chains? Oh that's right, you never were. It does not matter what an atheist finds as trivial when it comes to sin, you do not hold yourself to Law any way. Most of the prohibited sins in the Old Testament were because they were pagan practices. And stop trying to argue that homosexuality was not a sin mentioned in the Bible, it just further shows your ignorance to scripture when you do so. The Bible takes a clear and decisive stance on it. Easy to predict the future? Vague? I just provided you with a detailed Biblical prediction. I'm sorry that does not count as descriptive to the almighty and all knowing blank cd. You are no standard for what is relevant, intelligent, or detailed. As I stated before, it was translated; not edited, revised, or interpreted. You don't seem to understand the difference though. Once again, the findings of the Dead Sea scrolls can attest to the accuracy of the translation.
By the way, this is the Jesus thread. You don't believe in religion, God, Jesus, or Christian principles. Why then do you even post in here? This topic has nothing to do with you or any atheist.
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By the way, my Romanian language is a fairly new one as well. My nation was once called Dacia. It has been heavily influenced by the Romans, Turks, Russian, and Hungarian people. Does that make my language invalid? Does that make my languages translation to English invalid? I think not.
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Guess what? Im gonna wear polyester, buy liquor, work, cut my hair, and sleep with a girl Im not married to. All on sunday, and Im not gonna go to hell. How fantastic is that?
Nope, sure doesnt. Not according to most biblical scholars. Bible bangers take the clear and decisive stance. The bible does take a clear stance on tattoos though.And stop trying to argue that homosexuality was not a sin mentioned in the Bible, it just further shows your ignorance to scripture when you do so. The Bible takes a clear and decisive stance on it.
I trust youve read these dead sea scrolls enough to make this assumptionOnce again, the findings of the Dead Sea scrolls can attest to the accuracy of the translation.
Threatened much? Im just here to balance out the mythology with reality.By the way, this is the Jesus thread. You don't believe in religion, God, Jesus, or Christian principles. Why then do you even post in here? This topic has nothing to do with you or any atheist.
Actually the Bible makes a very clear dinstinction to its view on homosexuality. Unless you define an "abomination" as some sort of praise or condonement? You can drink, smoke, screw, and wear anything you want any day of the week. That is your choice to make. I can not and will not judge you as a person for your deeds. I can not condemn you to hell. Only God can judge you, but seeing as you don't believe in Him; when you die, it wont matter any way. Yes the Bible makes a clear stance on tattoos, I myself got inked before I found God. Actually I have read the dead sea scrolls, yet not in their entirety. I have also read a Hebrew Bible. Whats your point? I would consider myself as a Biblical scholar with countless hours of study. I would also consider myself an expert on faith, based on the fact that I do have it. You can not claim either, therefore can make no expert assumption or comment on either. You lack belief, that in no way shape or form qualifies you in matters pertaining to religion, faith, God, Jesus, or the Bible. I'm assuming you're in your late 20's or early 30's. Therefore, your words, beliefs, views, agenda, life experience or lack their of will have absolutely no impact on God, Jesus, the Bible, faith or religion; of that I am 100% sure. I am also sure that when you die, your life would have had no significance nor effect on anyone but yourself or children. Again I am sure that you not having a belief in God or faith in anything will not harm God or anyone else for that matter. God does not need you, any atheist, nor any believer to continue to exist. He was, is, and always will be God. You and I are just a tiny spec in the entirety of history and creation. We are insignificant to the larger picture. The only ones we have any significance to is ourselves. Such a vain and empty life one must live to try and bring down those with faith, to be intolerant of believers, to be filled with hate towards a God that they do not nor ever have known. I pity a life such as that. I am not threatened by you anymore than I am the kitten I rescued from outside a month ago. Your words and beliefs are empty with no weight to me. Do not for a second believe that you mean anything more to me than a lost soul. I can only point you in the right direction, it is up to you to walk the path.
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Mark 3:28-29. I have commited an eternal sin. I do not and will not ever believe in the mythology that is the Abrahamic god. Any attempt to lead me to salvation is further affirmation of contradictions in the bible.
Ah yes, blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You my friend don't know what it means to be filled with the Spirit. How then can you blaspheme that which you do not know. That eternal sin is reference for believers not unbelievers. To see the work of God first hand and to have experienced the Holy Spirit and then deny the power thereof; that is unforgivable sin. You, despite all your joking and mocking and disbelief; are still offered salvation through Christ...it will remain that way until you take your final breath sir.
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show me evidence the bible was "divinely inspired."
Show me it wasn't...I have faith it was. I have experienced God first hand. You have an empty belief on empty grounds.
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If you really want evidence...Jesus is all the evidence you need. As He said, " I AM".
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So you admit there's no evidence, just faith. You believe it whether it actually happened or not?
The best response I think I've seen you give, dude. And you keep that faith. There's nothing wrong that.
You feel that you have experienced God. Your faith helped you to do this. Later, QD.
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