Jesus thread...

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I can tell you this my friend. The Bible is not a buffet which one can pick and choose what they like and disregard that which they find irrelevant. No personal interpretation is needed. One need nothing more than to read it for himself as the words are printed on the page. If you own a Bible, read it for yourself. Faith and salvation are to be worked out by each individual. Don't leave it up to men or a church to guide you. God is the guide and Jesus is the blueprint.

The only problem is that you can not sit there and say that the Bible has not been interpreted. As far as I know, the English language has not been around since the Biblical days. So to say that there is no chance the Bible could have been misinterpreted is quite a bit naive, yes?

Also, I believe God would be the blueprint and Jesus the guide.

the Author of our faith.

So Jesus wrote the Bible? Later, QD.

[geoff]

Yes and no( to your question of Jesus writing the Bible). Obviously the scriptures were penned by men, but the were Divinely inspired. As no proof can be given for or against this, it falls back on a matter of faith.

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You will also see how some of the atheists here show their knowledge of scripture, or lack there of.

Atheists lack of knowledge of scripture huh? You didnt even know the bible has been edited. I've clearly shown my knowledge of your scripture is greater than yours. You just choose to interpret it differently, and your interpretation is the "correct" interpretation.

Rape was punishable by death and slavery then was not what slavery in modern terms was. Slaves were to be treated very well under the "golden rule" and there was punishment for abuse. Also, slaves were to be set free every 7 years. What some here label as "murder" was realistically casualties of war.

I dont think you understand what slavery is. I think you imagine that slavery in the 18-19th century was all brutally oppresive. This is not the case. None the less, slavery is slavery, 1st century or 21st century.

It was also punishment for sin.

This is what we take issue with. There's a lot of trivial stuff the bible considers sin: Working on sunday, wearing blended fabrics, cutting your beard. Think I should be killed for wearing my favorite polyester shirt?

I can tell you this my friend. The Bible is not a buffet which one can pick and choose what they like and disregard that which they find irrelevant. No personal interpretation is needed.

So why do believers pick gay marriage to crusade against, and not barber shops doing hot later shaves on men? Only one of those is a sin according to the bible, and I'll give you a hint, it involves a razor and shaving cream.

It seems these days that the Bible is no longer relevant, and as each day passes that idea become more true. Yet, the Bible clearly speaks of this...

Like I've said before, its easy to predict the future when you make broad and incredibly vague predictions.

The Bible has not been "interpreted" many times or "rewritten".

Unfortunately It has. It has been revised many times, entire books have been omitted, and it has been translated numerous times. Romani, Hungarian, and German, Romainas 2 recognised languages, are all viable. We're talking about a translation from many different languages that are no longer viable, into different versions of English that are no longer viable.

The only problem is that you can not sit there and say that the Bible has not been interpreted. As far as I know, the English language has not been around since the Biblical days. So to say that there is no chance the Bible could have been misinterpreted is quite a bit naive, yes?

The version of english we speak has only been around for a few hundred years. Modern english has only been around since around 1400. I have a feeling some believers think "white Jesus" was prancing around back in the 1st century speaking Shakespearian english. Lol.

[geoff]

As spirituality increases so does understanding of scripture. I can point to you something very interesting in the first chapter of Genesis. You know the whole argument, " we'll if God knew man was gonna rebel, why create man at all?" we'll, what if I told you that before God created sinful man, He made Himself Jesus as the sacrifice for sin?

[geoff]

Show me evidence that the Bible has been edited. The finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls is evidence to the contrary. You have more knowledge of scripture than I? Ha, you demonstrated just how much knowledge you have when you couldn't even state how Old Testament believers achieved salvation. You have no knowledge of scripture, what you have is the google search bar. That does not suffice as "knowledge" of a subject sir. I understand what slavery is, but I can't argue with a black man how much of an injustice the modern form was from biblical slavery. How long has it been since you were in chains? Oh that's right, you never were. It does not matter what an atheist finds as trivial when it comes to sin, you do not hold yourself to Law any way. Most of the prohibited sins in the Old Testament were because they were pagan practices. And stop trying to argue that homosexuality was not a sin mentioned in the Bible, it just further shows your ignorance to scripture when you do so. The Bible takes a clear and decisive stance on it. Easy to predict the future? Vague? I just provided you with a detailed Biblical prediction. I'm sorry that does not count as descriptive to the almighty and all knowing blank cd. You are no standard for what is relevant, intelligent, or detailed. As I stated before, it was translated; not edited, revised, or interpreted. You don't seem to understand the difference though. Once again, the findings of the Dead Sea scrolls can attest to the accuracy of the translation.

By the way, this is the Jesus thread. You don't believe in religion, God, Jesus, or Christian principles. Why then do you even post in here? This topic has nothing to do with you or any atheist.

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It does not matter what an atheist finds as trivial when it comes to sin, you do not hold yourself to Law any way

Guess what? Im gonna wear polyester, buy liquor, work, cut my hair, and sleep with a girl Im not married to. All on sunday, and Im not gonna go to hell. How fantastic is that?

And stop trying to argue that homosexuality was not a sin mentioned in the Bible, it just further shows your ignorance to scripture when you do so. The Bible takes a clear and decisive stance on it.

Nope, sure doesnt. Not according to most biblical scholars. Bible bangers take the clear and decisive stance. The bible does take a clear stance on tattoos though.

Once again, the findings of the Dead Sea scrolls can attest to the accuracy of the translation.

I trust youve read these dead sea scrolls enough to make this assumption

By the way, this is the Jesus thread. You don't believe in religion, God, Jesus, or Christian principles. Why then do you even post in here? This topic has nothing to do with you or any atheist.

Threatened much? Im just here to balance out the mythology with reality.

[geoff]

By the way, my Romanian language is a fairly new one as well. My nation was once called Dacia. It has been heavily influenced by the Romans, Turks, Russian, and Hungarian people. Does that make my language invalid? Does that make my languages translation to English invalid? I think not.