Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
"people call it all sorts of things" And the commentators voice sounded as though she thought it was retarded also.
the irony is NOBODY ELSE SAID IT...only her. if she felt "justified" or whatever the case may be, then why did she apologize later? the excuse she gave in the apology had something to do with "addressing other media statements." i had a hell of a hard time finding ANY OTHER media source referring to it as such...only fox news.



Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Bad joke saying both should be killed. We dont know what was being discussed before that, and honestly the names are very similar and with the amount we heard about Osama I am suprised that mistake hasnt been made moer often.
I KNOW what was being discussed before that...i can give you a link to the entire conversation. her calling the man "osama" was probably part of her "joke," not some mistake.

Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
I actually agree with that. I agree that someone that would have a long relationship with a known terrorist must agree to a point. I'm not saying that Obama was going to strap a bomb to his chest and blow up the capital building, but he agrees to a point. Dont forget that Ayers said that he "didnt do enough" after 9/11.
do you know anyone that steals or has stolen before? do you know anyone that sells or uses drugs? because you have a "relationship" with them, has nothing to do with whether you sympathize or agree. ayers was a college professor...i'm sure he didn't get all "far-left" after he became an educator. i'm sure there were plenty of essays and papers that he wrote prior to getting into his position that were identifiers with what his position is . i guess his students are sympathizers also...

Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
That has the same affect as Obama pointing out McCains age on so many occations. It is a political move to play on peoples fears. Sort of like the McSame rhetoric to play on peoples economic fears.

that's EXACTLY the point i'm making. playing on people's fears...well what fear is mccain playing on by using the man's middle name? muslim extremist maybe...??? how can you even compare that to the idea of mccain's age? the difference is...ONE IS TRUE ONE IS NOT. mccain is old as hell...telling people "he might die" is more true than "because his middle name is hussein, he's a muslim extremist." he has also ADMITTED himself that he agreed with bush 90% of the time, that's not something obama made up.




Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Those presidents met with them after preconditions were met. In this case Obama says he wants to meet without preconditions.
lol, ooohhh i got it. so it's ok to sit and have tea with terrorist if there are pre-conditions. how do you know obama didn't say to ayers "i'll only drink tea with you if you promise not to blow up anything else." here's a question...if ayers is such a terrible man, how come he's still alive and walking in the u.s.??? i mean it's the u.s.! we drop bombs on countries who fu.ck with us.

Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Only Bush Sr. who gave into the Eurpoeans and didnt take him out of office. Funny how those same eurpoean countries that wanted Sadaam in power are the ones that proftted from oil for food.
you're diverting the point. regardless of WHY nobody took the man out (mind you we actually "captured" saddam on 3 different occassions) the point is their relationship with him was what it was. because bush set him free, KNOWING he would continue to terrorize his people, did that mean bush sympathized or agreed with it?

Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Actually America funded the Mujahideen who Bin Laden was a part of. Al Qaeda in its present form didnt come on until after the US withdrew its support in Afghanistan.

so magically after the U.S. withdrew from iraq, bin laden and his crew became extremist? i highly doubt it. we had more to gain at that point so it didn't matter. much like obama gained funding from ayers...gained SPIRITUAL guidance from wright...i don't understand why obama's situations can't be treated the same as ANY OTHER president.


Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
So you are OK with spreading racism? Or is it only ok to be a racist if you have experienced it? I ahve been told "go away white boy" before, so because I have experienced racism it is ok for me to be a racist?

I actually look further down on a racist that has experienced racism than I do a racist that has never known what it feels like.
i'm not justifying it by any means. wrong is wrong. the point is, that's his pastor...nothing more. obama denounced the man's words...what more do you want? ok, so every sunday for 20yrs he went to the man's church. i'm sure he didn't go to learn how to be a racist...he went to find God. believe it or not, even black people get tired of other black folks who blame EVERYTHING on the white man. the news consistently plays 1 or 2 speeches from wright. if the man was such a die-hard racist...then there should be 20yrs worth of racist rhetoric...right? wright's speech could've come from anywhere. hell, maybe he had a bad day or something...who knows. what i find ironic is a lot of you on here call the man a racist...but i BET you never even listened to a word of what the man had to say. like you tried to say earlier "we don't know what happened before that." i guess that rule only applies to white women who joke about wanting to kill obama and osama huh?


Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Funny, I havent heard a single speech by Mccain that he said "God Damn the Vietnamese".
oh...well i'll help you...(althought you're more than welcome to google/youtube it)

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."
maybe nobody cares because "gooks" don't make up the american majority, so it's not deemed racist in this country. maybe him and wright went to the same seminary school.