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    well im talking about simplicity and maintenance, the whole picture. Turbo will make more power than a SC PSI for PSI no doubt. PSI is standard but with psi, theres CFM and with CFM that involves what size unit you are utilizing. 15 psi with one turbo can make 375hp, but 15psi with a bigger turbo will make 550.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    well im talking about simplicity and maintenance, the whole picture. Turbo will make more power than a SC PSI for PSI no doubt.
    A turbo kit will be a lot simpler to maintain and service... also way more reliable than any SC. That's is why most ALMS cars run turbos and not SCs. Also it's been proven that SCs wear engine faster than turbos, and we all know that turbos are more efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    PSI is standard but with psi, theres CFM and with CFM that involves what size unit you are utilizing. 15 psi with one turbo can make 375hp, but 15psi with a bigger turbo will make 550.
    Like I said IF you put together a good turbo kit iwill perform the same SC kit; even when the blower and the turbine are rated to move the same rate of air.....

    We have a car that has been running down vetts, vipers and porsches in RA for over 3 years now, and never give us any problems.... nothing but oil changes and lot of brake pads

    Is all about piecing the right turbo kit for the right application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ's325ITS
    A turbo kit will be a lot simpler to maintain and service... also way more reliable than any SC. That's is why most ALMS cars run turbos and not SCs. Also it's been proven that SCs wear engine faster than turbos, and we all know that turbos are more efficient.

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    Like I said IF you put together a good turbo kit iwill perform the same SC kit; even when the blower and the turbine are rated to move the same rate of air.....

    We have a car that has been running down vetts, vipers and porsches in RA for over 3 years now, and never give us any problems.... nothing but oil changes and lot of brake pads

    Is all about piecing the right turbo kit for the right application.

    I will disagree with you on the longevity of life on the SC, i will bet money that a JRSC will outlast most "similar sized" turbos on the market...even though it won't perform as high. You can feed me crap about ALMS and whatever but im talking about the daily beat, every day, giving it hell a good bit for the fun of it. Ive owned 9 turbos so i know a good bit about how things are built and serviced with them. Ive also owned super chargers etc. It has nothing to do with "piecing things together" A turbo is going to hold up the same no matter what wastegate or BOV you choose. Turbo life depends on tuning and how much boost you run on it on a consistent basis.

    Ive had turbo setups that didnt give me a problem in a 2 year span and ive had a supercharger setup that didn't give me problems for 2 years, pick your poison and tune it properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    I will disagree with you on the longevity of life on the SC, i will bet money that a JRSC will outlast most "similar sized" turbos on the market...even though it won't perform as high. You can feed me crap about ALMS and whatever but im talking about the daily beat, every day, giving it hell a good bit for the fun of it. Ive owned 9 turbos so i know a good bit about how things are built and serviced with them. Ive also owned super chargers etc. It has nothing to do with "piecing things together" A turbo is going to hold up the same no matter what wastegate or BOV you choose. Turbo life depends on tuning and how much boost you run on it on a consistent basis.

    Ive had turbo setups that didnt give me a problem in a 2 year span and ive had a supercharger setup that didn't give me problems for 2 years, pick your poison and tune it properly.
    We're going to have to agree to disagree....
    If you want another good example about the reliability of a good turbo setup put together.... Look at turbo diesels and big rigs ALL are turbo set-ups, and I haven’t seen the first 18 wheeler towing 10 tons with a SC I don’t think the engineers decided to chose the "turbo poison" over the supercharger..... Food for thought....

    What I meant by piecing s set-up was..... Having a setup that all its components support each other and there are no weak links... from the right flow patter for the injectors, to having the right size of turbo were it stays within its efficiency rate most of the time.

    There is a big misunderstanding in the tuner world.... Sometimes the bigger is not better and big numbers out of small turbos is not good. If you started like all of us going from one turbo size to the next... you should've realized by now that everything is engineer to meet "X" application, and that does not mean that they will perform out their set application, thus you have to sacrifice reliability for performance....

    It's just a trade off, once again if you piece it together were your stay in their efficiency rate the turbo will out last the SC...

    Don’t argue with me, its science and it's out there for all of us to learn from it.

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