preference of boost.

[chaseamundo]

PM patrick4588


slap your b16a head on the b18c1 block and a twin scroll ball bearing GT35r

hey...good idea

[japan4racing]

blah...just go ahead and buy patty's block and my built gsr head and boost the shit out of it...

[xdavidscenex]

blah...just go ahead and buy patty's block and my built gsr head and boost the shit out of it...

a man.

[patrick4588]

i want 500 for the block. got eagle rods for it too. 200 for them. i would get a shop to assemble everything for you and do the work. jjspec is gray, GA has an 8 sec civic; im sure they would love to help you out.

[chaseamundo]

PM patrick4588


slap your b16a head on the b18c1 block and a twin scroll ball bearing GT35r

explain to me how the whole mismatching blocks and heads works...

[scttydb411]

that list i posted was bare bones. all the other parts suggestions are good too, but the op is looking for an inexpensive and simple beginning.

[SPOOLIN]

i want 500 for the block. got eagle rods for it too. 200 for them. i would get a shop to assemble everything for you and do the work. jjspec is gray, GA has an 8 sec civic; im sure they would love to help you out.

There is not an 8 sec civic in georgia.

to the OP, ive had a supercharged street car, a 400 hp street car, and a 600 hp street car, now i have an 750ish hp drag car and a soon to be super charged street car stock internal. Can't beat the SIMPLE fun of a supercharger and stock motor....but, a 300hp turbo civic is so fun on the streets lol.

[RJ's325ITS]

There is not an 8 sec civic in georgia.

to the OP, ive had a supercharged street car, a 400 hp street car, and a 600 hp street car, now i have an 750ish hp drag car and a soon to be super charged street car stock internal. Can't beat the SIMPLE fun of a supercharger and stock motor....but, a 300hp turbo civic is so fun on the streets lol.

Why a SC w/ stock internals is more fun that a Turbo w/ stock internals?

I thought psi was an universal measuring system?

If it is a lag issue? I think an all time boost turbp set-up will beat / out run & out perform any supercharger

[SPOOLIN]

well im talking about simplicity and maintenance, the whole picture. Turbo will make more power than a SC PSI for PSI no doubt. PSI is standard but with psi, theres CFM and with CFM that involves what size unit you are utilizing. 15 psi with one turbo can make 375hp, but 15psi with a bigger turbo will make 550.

[scttydb411]

not to mention iat changing things too.

[-S Double C-]

i can get you a brand new FULL XS Power ramhorn kit with a 57trim t3/t4 for 700 if you want a cheaper kit. I made 337whp on my old boosted gsr EK hatch on 11lbs tuned by John Vega. Comes with everything needed.

[RJ's325ITS]

well im talking about simplicity and maintenance, the whole picture. Turbo will make more power than a SC PSI for PSI no doubt.

A turbo kit will be a lot simpler to maintain and service... also way more reliable than any SC. That's is why most ALMS cars run turbos and not SCs. Also it's been proven that SCs wear engine faster than turbos, and we all know that turbos are more efficient.

You got to LOVE heat soaking.....

PSI is standard but with psi, theres CFM and with CFM that involves what size unit you are utilizing. 15 psi with one turbo can make 375hp, but 15psi with a bigger turbo will make 550.

Like I said IF you put together a good turbo kit iwill perform the same SC kit; even when the blower and the turbine are rated to move the same rate of air.....

We have a car that has been running down vetts, vipers and porsches in RA for over 3 years now, and never give us any problems.... nothing but oil changes and lot of brake pads

Is all about piecing the right turbo kit for the right application.

[chaseamundo]

i can get you a brand new FULL XS Power ramhorn kit with a 57trim t3/t4 for 700 if you want a cheaper kit. I made 337whp on my old boosted gsr EK hatch on 11lbs tuned by John Vega. Comes with everything needed.

is this a good turbo kit?
reliable?
performance?

[patrick4588]

There is not an 8 sec civic in georgia.

its gotten into the low 9s on the old setup; with the new stuff it should hit the 8s. granted it hasnt posted the slip, but it should. i was simply stating they know what they are doing.

[-S Double C-]

is this a good turbo kit?
reliable?
performance?

yeah its fine, i sold my EK 2 years ago and its still running the same setup perfectly fine. He had to change the oil return line but other then that its doing great.

[SPOOLIN]

A turbo kit will be a lot simpler to maintain and service... also way more reliable than any SC. That's is why most ALMS cars run turbos and not SCs. Also it's been proven that SCs wear engine faster than turbos, and we all know that turbos are more efficient.

You got to LOVE heat soaking.....




Like I said IF you put together a good turbo kit iwill perform the same SC kit; even when the blower and the turbine are rated to move the same rate of air.....

We have a car that has been running down vetts, vipers and porsches in RA for over 3 years now, and never give us any problems.... nothing but oil changes and lot of brake pads

Is all about piecing the right turbo kit for the right application.

I will disagree with you on the longevity of life on the SC, i will bet money that a JRSC will outlast most "similar sized" turbos on the market...even though it won't perform as high. You can feed me crap about ALMS and whatever but im talking about the daily beat, every day, giving it hell a good bit for the fun of it. Ive owned 9 turbos so i know a good bit about how things are built and serviced with them. Ive also owned super chargers etc. It has nothing to do with "piecing things together" A turbo is going to hold up the same no matter what wastegate or BOV you choose. Turbo life depends on tuning and how much boost you run on it on a consistent basis.

Ive had turbo setups that didnt give me a problem in a 2 year span and ive had a supercharger setup that didn't give me problems for 2 years, pick your poison and tune it properly.

[-S Double C-]

well spoken matt

[SPOOLIN]

all things aside if you want to make good power, get a turbo.

Theres no such thing as a SFWD supercharged car. haha

[RJ's325ITS]

I will disagree with you on the longevity of life on the SC, i will bet money that a JRSC will outlast most "similar sized" turbos on the market...even though it won't perform as high. You can feed me crap about ALMS and whatever but im talking about the daily beat, every day, giving it hell a good bit for the fun of it. Ive owned 9 turbos so i know a good bit about how things are built and serviced with them. Ive also owned super chargers etc. It has nothing to do with "piecing things together" A turbo is going to hold up the same no matter what wastegate or BOV you choose. Turbo life depends on tuning and how much boost you run on it on a consistent basis.

Ive had turbo setups that didnt give me a problem in a 2 year span and ive had a supercharger setup that didn't give me problems for 2 years, pick your poison and tune it properly.

We're going to have to agree to disagree....
If you want another good example about the reliability of a good turbo setup put together.... Look at turbo diesels and big rigs ALL are turbo set-ups, and I haven’t seen the first 18 wheeler towing 10 tons with a SC I don’t think the engineers decided to chose the "turbo poison" over the supercharger..... Food for thought....

What I meant by piecing s set-up was..... Having a setup that all its components support each other and there are no weak links... from the right flow patter for the injectors, to having the right size of turbo were it stays within its efficiency rate most of the time.

There is a big misunderstanding in the tuner world.... Sometimes the bigger is not better and big numbers out of small turbos is not good. If you started like all of us going from one turbo size to the next... you should've realized by now that everything is engineer to meet "X" application, and that does not mean that they will perform out their set application, thus you have to sacrifice reliability for performance....

It's just a trade off, once again if you piece it together were your stay in their efficiency rate the turbo will out last the SC...

Don’t argue with me, its science and it's out there for all of us to learn from it.

[00CiViC00]

i put together a kit for around $ 700 with headstuds ....

[chaseamundo]

For a b18/b16 a smaller turbo to spool easier would be better......correct?

[SPOOLIN]

For a b18/b16 a smaller turbo to spool easier would be better......correct?

this all depends on your application for the car.

[chaseamundo]

what do you mean