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    yea lots of cars have vtec it's just called different things for copyright reasons yo. on low boost and proper tuning any car can handle boost. a baffled oil pan can help a little with your oil problems but i would wait till you actually start boosting so you cab get one already tapped and made specifically for turbo. you could also upgrade your oil pump. or if you're big baller you could get one of those dry sump system or whatevr it's called. and just my if skunk2 makes any parts for your car i would use them they are fairly priced and qaulity parts g/l yo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveapc
    yea lots of cars have vtec it's just called different things for copyright reasons yo. on low boost and proper tuning any car can handle boost. a baffled oil pan can help a little with your oil problems but i would wait till you actually start boosting so you cab get one already tapped and made specifically for turbo. you could also upgrade your oil pump. or if you're big baller you could get one of those dry sump system or whatevr it's called. and just my if skunk2 makes any parts for your car i would use them they are fairly priced and qaulity parts g/l yo!
    Thanks a lot but the only thing that skunk2 makes or my car is an exhaust i think but ill definatly look in to them. Thanx ur lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveapc
    yea lots of cars have vtec it's just called different things for copyright reasons yo. on low boost and proper tuning any car can handle boost. a baffled oil pan can help a little with your oil problems but i would wait till you actually start boosting so you cab get one already tapped and made specifically for turbo. you could also upgrade your oil pump. or if you're big baller you could get one of those dry sump system or whatevr it's called. and just my if skunk2 makes any parts for your car i would use them they are fairly priced and qaulity parts g/l yo!
    uh wrong. nobody else uses a 3 cam lobe variable valve timing system with different lift cam lobes like honda. everyone else uses self adjusting cam gears (like the "i" in i-VTEC) or single larger lobes.

    heres a link to toyota explaining vvt-i

    http://www.toyota.com.au/toyota/main/vvti/index.htm

    here is a link to nissan's variable valve timing explanation. it works through the intake cam gear.
    http://www.nissanusa.com/video/vehic...iable_valv.swf


    heres a video of VTEC. I know it says honda marine but its the same thing.

    http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/41/33afea46-d732-479c-a4ab-22e74118bb4a.htm
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    i wish skunk2 was on here so i could give them rep points. lol g/l newer body style like you got loooks way better than the old
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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    uh wrong. nobody else uses a variable valve timing system with different lift cam lobes like honda. everyone else uses self adjusting cam gears (like the "i" in i-VTEC).

    heres a link to toyota explaining vvt-i

    http://www.toyota.com.au/toyota/main/vvti/index.htm

    here is a link to nissan's variable valve timing explanation. it works through the intake cam gear.
    http://www.nissanusa.com/video/vehic...iable_valv.swf


    heres a video of VTEC. I know it says honda marine but its the same thing.

    http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/41/33afea46-d732-479c-a4ab-22e74118bb4a.htm
    I love how a non-toyota owner, or a non-previous toyota owner will tell you something about your car, that they think they know... that isnt even anywhere close to accurate.

    Celicas (GT-S THAT IS)=Lift.... not vtec. (celicas are toyota, not a fucking honda.... jesus christ) Previous celica owner here (you know that, some others wont), I wont suggest anything about building the motor cause personally I think its a waste of money from personal expierence, just wanted to help the lift arguement. Good luck, post progession whenever you get started.

    Little bit of info some of yall dont know... lift comes in an Lotus Elise.... they come with a little more beefed up celica GT-S motor (the celica motor that has lift, what are the odds of that!!)... same set up though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fawk_you
    I love how a non-toyota owner, or a non-previous toyota owner will tell you something about your car, that they think they know... that isnt even anywhere close to accurate.

    Celicas (GT-S THAT IS)=Lift.... not vtec. (celicas are toyota, not a fucking honda.... jesus christ) Previous celica owner here (you know that, some others wont), I wont suggest anything about building the motor cause personally I think its a waste of money from personal expierence, just wanted to help the lift arguement. Good luck, post progession whenever you get started.

    Little bit of info some of yall dont know... lift comes in an Lotus Elise.... they come with a little more beefed up celica GT-S motor (the celica motor that has lift, what are the odds of that!!)... same set up though....
    I hope you are not directing that to me. Look at the link, its straight from toyota. nobody else uses the 3 lobes system but honda. VVTL-i has a system that increases lift, but not by using three lobes. he has a GT, so he does not have VVTL-i. VVTL-i is more complicated and still not as efficient as VTEC, which uses three different lift heights on the three cam lobes. The lobes are known as primary, secondary, and VTEC. The difference in lift in the low lobes causes a swirling of the air as it enters the chamber. VVTL-i does nothing like that.

    nissan makes one engine that has a system almost identical to honda's VTEC system that came about a few years later... imagine that. its the SR16-VVL blue top engine. The design was used under license from honda, so it does not count since nissan borrowed the design anyway.

    All in all, honda has had this technology since the mid 80's. It has been in production cars since about 87 or 88 in japan. toyota and nissan did copy this idea until much later.
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    ^-- correct, +1 sir.

    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    I hope you are not directing that to me. Look at the link, its straight from toyota. nobody else uses the 3 lobes system but honda. VVTL-i has a system that increases lift, but not by using three lobes. he has a GT, so he does not have VVTL-i. VVTL-i is more complicated and still not as efficient as VTEC, which uses three different lift heights on the three cam lobes. The lobes are known as primary, secondary, and VTEC. The difference in lift in the low lobes causes a swirling of the air as it enters the chamber. VVTL-i does nothing like that.

    nissan makes one engine that has a system almost identical to honda's VTEC system that came about a few years later... imagine that. its the SR16-VVL blue top engine. The design was used under license from honda, so it does not count since nissan borrowed the design anyway.

    All in all, honda has had this technology since the mid 80's. It has been in production cars since about 87 or 88 in japan. toyota and nissan did copy this idea until much later.
    I was quoting you sir, generalized statement to everyone in the thread.

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    Thanx everyone for ur responses and i really do appricate the info. I know that if i want to go turbo im gonna need low compression pistions (8.8 : 1)already researched that info. But now i have taken an intrest in autoX and i know u dont need the fastest car to win in autoX. So now that i have this intrest in AutoX im thinking on goin N/A. And N/A u need High compression pistions and a lot of head and internal work. I really dont know what i want to do right now but i've got a 2 years to think about it. If you ask why 2 years, I haven't finished paying off my car yet so i got time to make up my mind.

    I also know that the GT isn't the best car to mod because the amount of $ ur gonna spend and the low gains u get. But like i always say "i like being different" and i want to build something that not everyone has in the streets and want to change peoples minds about the 7th Gen GT and the potiental it can have wit time and money. Im the type of guy who wants to be that on guy to do something and everyone be like " damn that car is wack but that guy did some crazy ish and that is fing ridiculesly fast.I know it's a long shot but it's a shot im willing to take, but i have time and i'll have the money when im done payin that biatch off lol . i thank everyone for the advice it means alot from one tuner to the next, but i like wat i have and im gonna try to change the bad name the GT has. Even though it may take a life time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00CelicaGT
    Thanx everyone for ur responses and i really do appricate the info. I know that if i want to go turbo im gonna need low compression pistions (8.8 : 1)already researched that info. But now i have taken an intrest in autoX and i know u dont need the fastest car to win in autoX. So now that i have this intrest in AutoX im thinking on goin N/A. And N/A u need High compression pistions and a lot of head and internal work. I really dont know what i want to do right now but i've got a 2 years to think about it. If you ask why 2 years, I haven't finished paying off my car yet so i got time to make up my mind.

    I also know that the GT isn't the best car to mod because the amount of $ ur gonna spend and the low gains u get. But like i always say "i like being different" and i want to build something that not everyone has in the streets and want to change peoples minds about the 7th Gen GT and the potiental it can have wit time and money. Im the type of guy who wants to be that on guy to do something and everyone be like " damn that car is wack but that guy did some crazy ish and that is fing ridiculesly fast.I know it's a long shot but it's a shot im willing to take, but i have time and i'll have the money when im done payin that biatch off lol . i thank everyone for the advice it means alot from one tuner to the next, but i like wat i have and im gonna try to change the bad name the GT has. Even though it may take a life time.
    Sell your car, buy a miata or a mini-cooper or something worth a shit and dont waste your money dude. Seriously. Trade it in!! (before your cars worth decreases faster than it already is!!!!) A celica is one of the WORST POSSIBLE CARS TO AUTO-X IN... (previous owner expierence here, YET AGAIN!) unless you have shit tons of money to invest in your cars handeling.... its a waste of money and you will be suprised to see how shitty you will do in a race... cause if you think you're going to come out different/good in a race, you're dead wrong. One fun thing to do is go tray sliding, or do backwards donuts.... Hella body roll, torque steer, crappy body/weight in a car not ment to auto-x, ment for older ladies and girls.... lol.... im sorry dude. The only people ive ever seen auto-x a celica at an event, were old men, who actually had the retirement funds to invest into a shitty car. I appericate the laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fawk_you
    ^-- correct, +1 sir.



    I was quoting you sir, generalized statement to everyone in the thread.
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