View Poll Results: would you participate in an import vs domestic event

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    Quote Originally Posted by COGCaviZ24
    4 banger SVO mustang?(maybe an excort LOL)
    Actually Ford made a Mustang SVO Turbo in 1984-86. it had a 2.3l turbo that would hang with a 5.0 and produced 205whp. very rare cars

    BTW, i would be down to do this event
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling_trip
    Actually Ford made a Mustang SVO Turbo in 1984-86. it had a 2.3l turbo that would hang with a 5.0 and produced 205whp. very rare cars

    BTW, i would be down to do this event
    well i be damned.



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    ^^^ thats wierd lookin in my opinion

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    if some v8 will set me out 10 cars im in
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    this sounds like a great idea,
    steele is a really good track, they take good care of it.

    Id prefer to see run what ya brung in my opinion.
    As long as it dosent turn out like an episode of pinks
    and some of the the imports asking for 10 or more links,
    that just aint racing in my book. If you dont think you can beat 'em then dont step up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    bahhh ok keep going buddy what else is there...? you gonna run an ecotec, zetec motors ok your right a saturn could be you at the track!!!
    srt-4, mustang (4cylinder turbo), spirit, omni, turbo probe, turbo daytona umm...ok that's all I got I don't really consider the cobalts and saturns to be much competition or help for the domestic class.


    This sounds like an awsome idea, I would def. be down. maybe for classes we could have some qualifying rounds (kinda like they do when you are bracket racing) and divide people into different e/t classes based on the first runs? ex. class A = 11sec and faster , class b = 11.0-11.99, class c = 12.0-12.99...etc. Or you could just have a domestic staging lane and a import lane and just line up to whatever you're next to (well maybe take an hour or 2 for grudge matches where you can line up against any car).

    edit: I just read the part about possibly renting an 1/8 track :jerkit: I think it should be 1/4. If it ends up being a 1/8 I'll probably just watch.
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    I'm interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling_trip
    Actually Ford made a Mustang SVO Turbo in 1984-86. it had a 2.3l turbo that would hang with a 5.0 and produced 205whp. very rare cars

    BTW, i would be down to do this event

    actually, the 85 Svo put out 205hp to the crank, and it was the most powerful engine any year SVO had. So that 205hp to the crank converts to alot less hp to the wheels. Just thought you should know
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    Quote Originally Posted by CH@Dbee
    i'd be willing to bring 3 or 4 more srt-4's...that is besides mine. and the 4 banger shoot out would be cool. fastest 4 cyl on IA is........
    1 SRT4 is 1 too many. LOL. J/K
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    ^ ummm not going to happen... there aren't any fast nor enough 4bangn domestics.... needs to be run what you brung street car... in the end v8 muscle is going to win but there are quite a few honduhs that will put up a great fight in the 10sec range
    ...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverJester
    srt-4, mustang (4cylinder turbo), spirit, omni, turbo probe, turbo daytona umm...ok that's all I got I don't really consider the cobalts and saturns to be much competition or help for the domestic class.

    you forgot your long lost brethren the starion/conquest


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    Guys, thanks for all the input.

    Im kinda surprised by the amount of response here, so Im afraid that if everyone who appears to be interested actually showed-up, its going to be hard to finish the event if we get too caught-up on sticking to classes.

    Its looking more and more like it needs to be just run-what-you-brung. The point here isnt to start some trophy class...its to get out there and let out all of these pent-up keyboard-racing aggressions on your fellow car enthusiasts. So, if you have a mild or stock car, and you dont want to accept a call-out from a racecar, thats understandable. Same applies to the trailer-car vs not. It may just need to be up to you.
    Then, we can determine the "fastest 4 cyl" or whatever "classes" we want using the results from the event.

    I supposed to have a call setup with an organizer at Steele today, so hopefully Ill have more info on that tomorrow.

    BTW, Ive seen some 10 second SVO's out there with the ford 2.3 turbo. Its an archaic motor, but Ive seen people go fast with them. There is also a nitroused SVT focus that I used to hear about at Moreland that ran pretty good. Point is, there are some fast non-SRT4 domestics 4 cylinders LOL

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    when is this suppose to be goin down?

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    COGCaviZ24 no offense but why pick appart my post and you really need to check your facts...84-86 Mustang SVO Special Vehicle Operations(not SVT..this might have been before your time)was a stock 2.3L sohc 4 banger intercooled turbo 205-210hp depending on year..was also in the Thunderbird turbo coupe 87-88 and in the Merkur XR4Ti. A non-intercooled turbo version was available in earlier 80's T-bird models. I meant Sunbird not Sunfire...my mistake...but as far as it and the grand am turbo not existing it was available 87,88,89,90(90 in the sunbird not the grand am) (again my bad, I was close on the year)...2.0L 122cid L4 F/I turbo STOCK from GM. Why do I know they exist...I've driven one back in 1990. Black 4 dr Grand Am turbo...with the waste gate adjusted for more boost these things were insane fun, but huge torque steer and NOT alot of aftermarket parts. Oh, the supra comment was not a 1000hp supra stock, I said "drives around town LIKE stock" meaning it doesn't have drivability issues like a huge cam in a V-8 but makes more hp with the boost. By the way who pissed in your cornflakes...I was being complimentary and you tryed to tear me up by picking apart my whole post...WTF??!! At least know what your talking about before telling me I'm wrong. Peace brother...damn!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Dead
    COGCaviZ24 no offense but why pick appart my post and you really need to check your facts...84-86 Mustang SVO Special Vehicle Operations(not SVT..this might have been before your time)was a stock 2.3L sohc 4 banger intercooled turbo 205-210hp depending on year..was also in the Thunderbird turbo coupe 87-88 and in the Merkur XR4Ti. A non-intercooled turbo version was available in earlier 80's T-bird models. I meant Sunbird not Sunfire...my mistake...but as far as it and the grand am turbo not existing it was available 87,88,89,90(90 in the sunbird not the grand am) (again my bad, I was close on the year)...2.0L 122cid L4 F/I turbo STOCK from GM. Why do I know they exist...I've driven one back in 1990. Black 4 dr Grand Am turbo...with the waste gate adjusted for more boost these things were insane fun, but huge torque steer and NOT alot of aftermarket parts. Oh, the supra comment was not a 1000hp supra stock, I said "drives around town LIKE stock" meaning it doesn't have drivability issues like a huge cam in a V-8 but makes more hp with the boost. By the way who pissed in your cornflakes...I was being complimentary and you tryed to tear me up by picking apart my whole post...WTF??!! At least know what your talking about before telling me I'm wrong. Peace brother...damn!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    Yeah!! TAKE THAT!!! AND BRUSH YA TEETH TOO!!! LOL


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    Yeah what the shit throw me in....BUT we got to have AWD in a seperate class...I'm no fool ..or wait maybe I am :confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastaKilla2003
    Yeah what the shit throw me in....BUT we got to have AWD in a seperate class...I'm no fool ..or wait maybe I am :confused:
    why is that? too much wheel hop?

    JK

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    see, there goes that internet shit again. it's easy to take posts the wrong way.i didn't to affend you, andif i did im sorry i did. i didn't know about the mustang thing and quite frankly was fasinated by it. that would fun to swap into a festiva LOL. and i didn't even think about the tubro sunbird. those are nice. i try to look for one every time i go to the junkyards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    Yeah!! TAKE THAT!!! AND BRUSH YA TEETH TOO!!! LOL

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    I'm an old !@#$ and have been into cars since I was 12 so alot of the more obscure domestic hot rods have either been driven by me or have been owned by a friend of mine. Heres another one...1986 Dodge Omni GLHS turbo (175hp/car weighed 2200lbs.). These cars are very rare (500 made) but would smoke a 5.0 mustang GT back in the day. Damn funny to see that stock omni smoke the front tires all the way up a parking lot(1988). Back to the original questions....when & where will this event take place?? I would like to attend even with my slipping 3rd gear...LOL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhammer
    you forgot your long lost brethren the starion/conquest
    I didn't forget you...just consider you mitsubishi...like talons and lasers

    Quote Originally Posted by MastaKilla2003
    Yeah what the shit throw me in....BUT we got to have AWD in a seperate class...I'm no fool ..or wait maybe I am :confused:
    I don't think we should descriminate against AWD

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling_trip
    why is that? too much wheel hop?

    JK

    That was put to death loooooooong ago I kinda miss it though it was fun when the rear view mirror came off and hit me in the head....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastaKilla2003
    That was put to death loooooooong ago I kinda miss it though it was fun when the rear view mirror came off and hit me in the head....
    i wish i was makin enough power for that to happen to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Dead
    I'm an old !@#$ and have been into cars since I was 12 so alot of the more obscure domestic hot rods have either been driven by me or have been owned by a friend of mine. Heres another one...1986 Dodge Omni GLHS turbo (175hp/car weighed 2200lbs.). These cars are very rare (500 made) but would smoke a 5.0 mustang GT back in the day. Damn funny to see that stock omni smoke the front tires all the way up a parking lot(1988). Back to the original questions....when & where will this event take place?? I would like to attend even with my slipping 3rd gear...LOL!!
    I already mentioned the omni...and I could be wrong but I think there were a little more than that made because a friend of mine had one and got totaled. He didn't he too much trouble finding another.

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    Talking

    how about these guys

    Buick Grand National = V6 fucking FAST
    GMC Syclone & Typhoon =V6 AWD monster
    turbo 80's Thunderbird's = 4 banger turbo heavy but fast
    SC Thunberbird's =V6 heavier but almost as fast as a GN stock
    even a 4.3 V6 S10 modded could hang with some

    and as metioned above GLHS omni's and the other Shelby cars like Chargers 2.2,

    how about the turbo factory toyota pickups 85-86ish
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    i think it just needs to be run what ya brung. that way everyone will quit bitchin about how the races arent fair. just run someone you think you have a chance with
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    Just to comment on comments made earlier...

    There are people out there who *daily* drive their ~500hp ~ 600hp+ cars to work, school, other places, the track, vacations, long distances, etc. without a problem. It's not like you're going to be making more than 100hp for most of the *daily* driving anyways... and as long as your build is solid and tune is right, nothing should break or overheat 'n what not. Oh, this is assuming by ~500hp ~ 600hp, you mean that power is made on pump gas. If so, then I can see how gas mileage might be an issue... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSRT4
    how about these guys
    Buick Grand National = V6 fucking FAST
    GMC Syclone & Typhoon =V6 AWD monster
    turbo 80's Thunderbird's = 4 banger turbo heavy but fast
    SC Thunberbird's =V6 heavier but almost as fast as a GN stock
    even a 4.3 V6 S10 modded could hang with some
    and as metioned above GLHS omni's and the other Shelby cars like Chargers 2.2,
    how about the turbo factory toyota pickups 85-86ish
    An S10/sonoma with a 4.3 vortec? Those cant be made fast... or can they? :confused:

    There are definately plenty of fast domestics to come out. Surprisingly, though, Ive seen none of the usual domestics chime in yet.

    The four tracks Ive been looking at are Commerce, Reynolds, Carolina Dragway and Steele.
    My preference is Reynolds, although Ive never been to Steele or Carolina. Ive heard that Carolina is a very nice track from several of my friends who have been there.
    Steele is known for its "overly enthusiastic" timers, i.e. they tend to show faster ET's than other tracks. However, for the case of a grudge-match type affair, that might not be an issue.
    Ive been having a hard time getting in touch with the people at the tracks. They dont have very regular schedules. Ill post an update when I do finally get in touch with them.
    I heard from my friends who have organized other events that we are talking around $1500 to privately rent Carolina (I estimated 30-40 cars.) I expect Commerce and Reynolds to be similiarly priced, but I dont know yet. Someone told me that they think Reynolds will do it for $1000, but I havent confirmed.
    I did talk to the owner of Steele, and he said they would do it for $500 for a private session, 10am to 3 PM on Sunday, with the option of staying later if you want (but it will open to the public afterwards for normal test and tune.)
    Seeing that I dont have any idea who will show-up, and that I dont want to be stuck putting up $1500 and only have a few people come (we would need 60 people @ $25/person to pay me back $1500,) Im leaning towards Steele. Im not looking to make any money personally, but I dont want to be stuck with $1000 balance at the end of the day either.

    The *tentative* date at Steele is June 11th.

    In the interest of getting more attendance, I think we should let people just race whoever they want. I still want a domestic vs imports part at first, then just a normal racing or test and tune...whatever people want to do. I just havent seen enough domestics chime-in.
    I think we will skip "classes" and just make it a call-out grudge-match. Like I said earlier, if you dont want to race a car that was trailered-in, dont. I really dont expect anyone to be trailering-in any track-queens to race in this.
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    i frequent steele, their timers are not enthusiastic. They are right on with all of the others.

    june 11th is the same day as the mainstream dyno day just to put out date conflicts with events that people might rather go to closer to home.

    on a personal note, july would be good, my car wont be done till like mid june
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    If I can make it out, I can bring whichever you choose (to help even up the numbers), import or domestic.

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    we need more domestics.....we should announce this on other sites too. like SVTperformance.com, some corvette and viper forums too.

    **Edit**
    I supose we need to set a date first though.... :confused:

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    OK, Please check out the update on my last post here:

    1/4 mile dragstrip preferences

    If you have any feedback on the tracks, please post it there. This thread is duplicative now.

    Thanks for all the feedback. It looks like this could be really cool. Im going to try to put a deposit down next week at one of the two locations.

    Im going to ask the admins to lock this thread, and ill start a new one next week when I have the arrangements made. Until then, please post on the thread listed above.

    Please do not post this information on any other sites until I have a definate schedule.
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