Gauging interest, import vs domestic matches

[lightspeed]

OK Guys, im throwing this out there as a topic before I put any effort into trying to try to plan any specifics.
As eveyone knows, esp the kills forum crew, there is a LOT of smack talking on IA. A lot of it stems from domestic vs import bashing.
So, Im looking to see who would seriously be interested in getting a track-day setup for an imports vs domestics race. Once again, I dont know what tracks have days available, so I will have to see. Im more biased to Silver Dollar, but it looks like it might be full-up through the summer on weekends already. It might have to be somewhere farther away though.
Anyway, in order to work, this will obviously take some commitment from people in advance. We would probably need to collect-up the track rental fee in advance.
It would probably be fair to have some types of classes, to keep the v8 mustangs from raping the N/A 4 cyl hondas (except vteckidd, of course LOL,) but I think that would be overly complicated. So, Im thinking just run-what-you-brung, call-out matches between whoever wants to race.
One class that I do think would be cool at least would be a 4-cyl import vs 4 cyl domestic race.
Anyway, post up your thoughts. I think this could be cool.

[wantboost]

i would be up for it as long as the fee isnt above 50 bucks

[BABY J]

I'm game. I want 5 lengths... and the V8s must take off their steering wheels. I will let them get the break though... I want to make it fair.

[NinjaHobo]

it sounds like a good idea and pretty reasonable. I'm thinkin' that a lot of people would step up just to see which is better.

[SpooL'DGsR]

count me in, but only against stock v8's...

[4dmin]

4-cyl import vs 4 cyl domestic race

^ ummm not going to happen... there aren't any fast nor enough 4bangn domestics.... needs to be run what you brung street car... in the end v8 muscle is going to win but there are quite a few honduhs that will put up a great fight in the 10sec range

[Speedm0(\)key]

^ ummm not going to happen... there aren't any fast nor enough 4bangn domestics.... needs to be run what you brung street car... in the end v8 muscle is going to win but there are quite a few honduhs that will put up a great fight in the 10sec range

are you retarded paul?.. nevermind yes you are..


.... SRT-4

[4dmin]

are you retarded paul?.. nevermind yes you are..


.... SRT-4

bahhh ok keep going buddy what else is there...? you gonna run an ecotec, zetec motors ok your right a saturn could be you at the track!!!

[lightspeed]

are you retarded paul?.. nevermind yes you are..
.... SRT-4

Actually, I kinda expected it to be mainly srt4's for the domestics, but there are others. For example, a cobalt ss, saturn ion or focus svt would smoke most ricer hondas and the like. I guess it depends on how many really fast 4 cyls are there.
Maybe we could have a fastest 4 cyl car period... Let the evo/sti/srt4/honda/sr20 guys battle it out for king 4 cyl.

[SPOOLIN]

im game.

check out steele alabama track
www.alabamainternationaldragway.com

sticky, good parking, 2 hrs from atlanta area.

[ct9a gsr]

I'm down.

[CHADbee]

i'd be willing to bring 3 or 4 more srt-4's...that is besides mine. and the 4 banger shoot out would be cool. fastest 4 cyl on IA is........

[KevinT707]

I'm down.

[~The_Duke~]

This would be a good idea...I would come if my work\child care schedule doesnt conflict...

[Halfwit]

to keep away the redneck 6 sec mustangs, make it a rule that the car must be driven to the track, not trailored.

i am partial to cars that i see everyday on the street, than trailor cars... just an idea.

[~The_Duke~]

to keep away the redneck 6 sec mustangs, make it a rule that the car must be driven to the track, not trailored.

i am partial to cars that i see everyday on the street, than trailor cars... just an idea.

That is also a good idea...

[purplehazing]

hey what would be even better what about the 4 bangers thats not fully modded like vteckkid do we fit in anywhere and damn are we putting all domestics down already well there goes my fighting chance

[BigPoppaHurtm]

to keep away the redneck 6 sec mustangs, make it a rule that the car must be driven to the track, not trailored.

i am partial to cars that i see everyday on the street, than trailor cars... just an idea.

^^^Gr8 idea I concur.


Oh and the stock V8 stangs are gonna be mine that day Oooohhh Im looking forward to this know

[~The_Duke~]

^^^Gr8 idea I concur.


Oh and the stock V8 stangs are gonna be mine that day Oooohhh Im looking forward to this know

I am just waiting for someone to go out a rent something like a charger or something and take it to this...

[BigPoppaHurtm]

I am just waiting for someone to go out a rent something like a charger or something and take it to this...

Do it. I can own it if its not that new srt8. Who knows I may even have an srt8...

[BanginJimmy]

I know my friend would love to do this, if you dont mind racing a pick-up. What else would be in the v-6 class besides the accord and tiburan? I would race my POS but you would need a calender for my ET

[~The_Duke~]

Do it. I can own it if its not that new srt8. Who knows I may even have an srt8...

nah I would be running my SE-R Spec V I am going to get owned because I have never done a track event before and it is stock because I just bought it a week ago...but winning isnt everything I just want to have fun

[Nyteryder]

Im wit it

[lightspeed]

to keep away the redneck 6 sec mustangs, make it a rule that the car must be driven to the track, not trailored.
i am partial to cars that i see everyday on the street, than trailor cars... just an idea.

Agreed, this seems fair.

I know my friend would love to do this, if you dont mind racing a pick-up. What else would be in the v-6 class besides the accord and tiburan? I would race my POS but you would need a calender for my ET

No problems, ill be racing my pickup too, probably, if we can make this work-out. Its a v6.

Im thinking we dont want to get too complicated with classes, but its up to the general concensus. I agree we want it to be fun for everyone, so we need to have some balance. Im thinking in reality, this will just turn into a free-for-all grudge match, which is certainly cool also. Import vs imports are fine too, but in the interest of the theme, we should schedule those after the import vs domestics.

Good feedback guys, keep the suggestions coming. Its cool to see people are on-board with it.

If youve got other track suggestions, shoot me a PM. It seems a lot of 1/4 mile tracks are pretty booked on weekends already. We might have better chance at an 1/8th mile track, and it would be cheaper. The problem is that it will put a lot of turbo cars at a disadvantage against the domestics.

What do you all think about 1/8th mile?

I sent an email to the track director at Steele to ask for specifics on these types of events there. Ive never been to that track, so it would be new for me.

I havent seen too many of the normally-vocal domestics responding though, hopefully they didnt all get banned or something haha

[TwinyTwin]

I am willing to participate. Be nice if it was after july cause I am still waiting for my rods to come in. Oh, mine is not a trailer queen, it is street driven but will be trailered to the track just in case something breaks. Just dont want to pay a huge tow bill.

[HonDai3oii]

When and where?? i be there.....it'll be cool to see this import vs. domestic race....im from the country....lots of my boys got mustang and i got a v6 accord...1 out 3 imports here that really got something under the hood...i prob. wont race ..im still doing stuff under the hood(under const)....i'll take some of my mustang boyz to show there is hondas out running muscle cars

[SPOOLIN]

to keep away the redneck 6 sec mustangs, make it a rule that the car must be driven to the track, not trailored.

i am partial to cars that i see everyday on the street, than trailor cars... just an idea.

no that is a bad idea. while i do drive my car easily on the street i dont drive it much anymore on the street just to take care of it. I will NEVER EVER drive my car to the track, thats asking for trouble. We shear axles and shit on 200whp cars and it wouldnt seem like it would happen. I have 630whp and ill have more when my new car is done and i get my engine back together...no sir im not driving that shit to an event, you must be out of your mind.

[phongt12]

no that is a bad idea. while i do drive my car easily on the street i dont drive it much anymore on the street just to take care of it. I will NEVER EVER drive my car to the track, thats asking for trouble. We shear axles and shit on 200whp cars and it wouldnt seem like it would happen. I have 630whp and ill have more when my new car is done and i get my engine back together...no sir im not driving that shit to an event, you must be out of your mind.

the whole point of having a car is for it to get you from point A to point B. if it can't do that, then why even have a car? track racing is fun but i see way too many people complaining about their cars not being able to run. if your car can't make it to the track, how is it supposed to run on the track?

[purplehazing]

the whole point of having a car is for it to get you from point A to point B. if it can't do that, then why even have a car? track racing is fun but i see way too many people complaining about their cars not being able to run. if your car can't make it to the track, how is it supposed to run on the track?

okay have u ever heard of towing u know on a trailer shit if he drove his shit down to a track and happen to break something and u see him on the side of the road will u pullover and help him ............. i guess the point im getting at is that to preserve his shit he might tow it its his car there for its his problem if it breaks down and as for the point a to point b thinbg come on now in the car buying manual does it state that when u buy a car that it must get u from point a to point b yeah maybe from the starting line to the finish line ur car is what ever u want to use it for plus he has a next car anyways now quit being that mans moms and let him do him shit t9ow ur shit down there and shit run it like u want to

[stumpy]

We are down if trans for av6 comes in from Dr.Evil by then

[iloveboost]

no that is a bad idea. while i do drive my car easily on the street i dont drive it much anymore on the street just to take care of it. I will NEVER EVER drive my car to the track, thats asking for trouble. We shear axles and shit on 200whp cars and it wouldnt seem like it would happen. I have 630whp and ill have more when my new car is done and i get my engine back together...no sir im not driving that shit to an event, you must be out of your mind.

Agreed. While I daily drive my car, there's much more of a risk of something breaking on 600+ whp cars than your regular stock Sentra Spec V and you're defintely not going to help us tow it back, so trailering is the only option.

It's one thing to break in metro Atlanta or 20 miles from home. It's another story to break down in another state or several hours away.

[COGCaviZ24]

i'd love to come watch and/or participate.

Actually, I kinda expected it to be mainly srt4's for the domestics, but there are others. For example, a cobalt ss, saturn ion or focus svt would smoke most ricer hondas and the like. I guess it depends on how many really fast 4 cyls are there.
Maybe we could have a fastest 4 cyl car period... Let the evo/sti/srt4/honda/sr20 guys battle it out for king 4 cyl.

i know in my lightly modded Z24 is able to out run most stock/lightly modded/ricer 4cyclinder (and some 6 cyclinders) hondas. and some v6 stangs. colbalt ss is heavier than my car so that puts it behind my car. saturn ion(light) and the colbalt ss s/c(heavy) has the GM s/c so it's pretty fast. focus svt are weak.

[COGCaviZ24]

get me a date and i can dig up some domestic owners willing to come. and i really like the "no trailor queens" idea

[LS2ner]

okay have u ever heard of towing u know on a trailer shit if he drove his shit down to a track and happen to break something and u see him on the side of the road will u pullover and help him ............. i guess the point im getting at is that to preserve his shit he might tow it its his car there for its his problem if it breaks down and as for the point a to point b thinbg come on now in the car buying manual does it state that when u buy a car that it must get u from point a to point b yeah maybe from the starting line to the finish line ur car is what ever u want to use it for plus he has a next car anyways now quit being that mans moms and let him do him shit t9ow ur shit down there and shit run it like u want to

Please use periods. But Spoolin does have a point. Having a 600+ horsepower car does cause serious problems when traveling long distances. What if something goes wrong? Not only that...think about what his gas mileage is like.

Someone said something about mildly modded 4 bangers versus havily modded ones. Honeslty, if your doing this for the title of fastest 4 cylinder then it should be run what you brung, no matter the mods. If you break it down too much then it looses the point of being the fastest 4 cylinder.

Just my

[LS2ner]

i'd love to come watch and/or participate.



i know in my lightly modded Z24 is able to out run most stock/lightly modded/ricer 4cyclinder (and some 6 cyclinders) hondas. and some v6 stangs. colbalt ss is heavier than my car so that puts it behind my car. saturn ion(light) and the colbalt ss s/c(heavy) has the GM s/c so it's pretty fast. focus svt are weak.

The cobalt SS is supercharged, u cant get one without the supercharger.

[Walking Dead]

I am brand new to the IA seeing as I drive a domestic right now...HOWEVER...I am a car enthusiast and like ALL kinds of cars. I don't know a guy who drives a domestic out there who doesn't like Ferraris,Lamborghinis, Porsche..etc. So if they like those cars they have to like imports right?! I also happen to really like the jap cars as well. When you have a 1000rwhp Supra that drives around town like stock and makes that kind of power...well damn!! Even at half that power for a street car is insane. You will never hear me bash an import just for being an import, I think that is stupid on so many levels just like I wouldn't bash a Ford for being a Ford although I did own one and wasn't impressed (although it wasn't an 03+ Cobra, Lightning, SVT Focus, etc. either)! I guess I'm sayin that most of us like cars of all makes and models so bashing one or the other is kinda stupid in my opinion!! As far as no 4 banger domestics making any power...there are some Mustang SVO owners and I'm sure some Focus SVT owners that would like to beg to differ!! Some old 90 Grand Am 2.0 turbo cars and Sunfire turbos were pretty quick with minor mods of course. It could happen!!

[COGCaviZ24]

The cobalt SS is supercharged, u cant get one without the supercharger.

nope, colbalt base is a 2.2l, ss is 2.4l, ss s/c is 2.0l with a s/c

[n2daizo123]

the 2 door s is supercharged the 4 door isnt.

[COGCaviZ24]

the 2 door s is supercharged the 4 door isnt.

that's wrong too.

colbalt coupe:

LS
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145-hp 2.2L engine
Getrag five-speed manual transmission
CD player
15-inch wheels and Touring tires
Premium Ride suspension
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LT
Highlights:
145-hp 2.2L engine
Getrag five-speed manual transmission
CD player
Cruise Control
15-inch aluminum wheels and Touring tires
Complete list of standard & optional features
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SS
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171-hp 2.4L High-Output engine
17-inch aluminum wheels and Sport tires
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Tuned Sport suspension
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SS supercharged
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205-hp 2.0L Supercharged engine
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colbalt sedan:

LS
Highlights:
145-hp 2.2L engine
Getrag five-speed manual transmission
CD player
15-inch wheels and Touring tires
Premium Ride suspension
Complete list of standard & optional features
View 360s


LT
Highlights:
145-hp 2.2L engine
Getrag five-speed manual transmission
CD player
Cruise Control
15-inch aluminum wheels and Touring tires
Complete list of standard & optional features
View 360s


LTZ
Highlights:
145-hp 2.2L engine
Electronically-controlled four-speed automatic transmission with traction control system
Leather-appointed front bucket seats with heated seat cushions
Seven-speaker Pioneer premium sound system
Chromed door handles and body-side moldings
16-inch machined-face aluminum wheels with Pirelli tires
Complete list of standard & optional features
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SS
Highlights:
171-hp 2.4L High-Output engine
17-inch aluminum wheels and Sport tires
CD/MP3 player
Seven-speaker Pioneer premium sound system
Tuned Sport suspension
Complete list of standard & optional features
View 360s

SS supercharged
N/A

[COGCaviZ24]

I am brand new to the IA seeing as I drive a domestic right now...HOWEVER...I am a car enthusiast and like ALL kinds of cars. I don't know a guy who drives a domestic out there who doesn't like Ferraris,Lamborghinis, Porsche..etc. So if they like those cars they have to like imports right?! I also happen to really like the jap cars as well.

welcome and agreed

When you have a 1000rwhp Supra that drives around town like stock and makes that kind of power...well damn!!Even at half that power for a street car is insane.

1000rwhp from a Stock supra? a 1/4 of that is good for most street cars

You will never hear me bash an import just for being an import, I think that is stupid on so many levels just like I wouldn't bash a Ford for being a Ford although I did own one and wasn't impressed (although it wasn't an 03+ Cobra, Lightning, SVT Focus, etc. either)! I guess I'm sayin that most of us like cars of all makes and models so bashing one or the other is kinda stupid in my opinion!! .

glad to hear it

As far as no 4 banger domestics making any power...there are some Mustang SVO owners and I'm sure some Focus SVT owners that would like to beg to differ!! Some old 90 Grand Am 2.0 turbo cars and Sunfire turbos were pretty quick with minor mods of course. It could happen!!

4 banger SVO mustang?(maybe an excort LOL), 90 Grand AM 2.0 turbo?(doesn't exist), sunfire turbo?(no turbo stock, but they are tubro kits for them)