OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.
OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.
Point?Originally Posted by BlizzCivic
keep my boys name out ya mouthBecause this is America. Where your 23 month sentence doesn't mean 23 months. It means maybe 1/2 that on a good day and bad lawyering.
He'll probably get out in somewhere between 12-18 mos. Watch and see.
Because the guy is not going to forget, not that he ever knew how, how to throw a ball or run just because he's in jail. He'll be really rusty and no where near top shape, but he's not going to suddenly become some kind of couch potato either. The guy is or atleast was an athlete. A very good athlete at that. He's not too old. There have been many athletes that come out of "retirement" all that the time and perform. Most are no where near the same level they once were, but certainly they don't embarrass themselves either.
The guy will get picked up by somebody somewhere. If for nothing else, as a publicity stunt to draw in bigger crowds just because of the same curiosity sparked in this thread. People will indeed pay money to see "Vick's return", even if he throws 5 interceptions and doesn't gain a yard. He's famous like that. He fills seats. That's really all whomever gets him cares about. Look at T.O. The guy is bafoon, but he fills seats and his bank account because of it. Vick will be no different IF he wants to play again.
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O.J.= Not guilty in criminal court. charged in civil court and found guilty, had to pay 30 something million to the family. Not necessarily 'walking away'.
Kobe= Never convincted, why would you serve jail time for a crime you weren't convicted of?
Vick= Convicted, and got less than half the maximum sentence.
And do you people defending vick even read? HE WAS CHARGED WITH CONSPIRING TO COMMIT FELONIES ACROSS STATE LINES. So, stop saying he just 'fought some dogs'...because he didnt just fight them he bankrolled a kennel that fought dogs all over the country and sold dogs to dog fighters all over the country. If you smoke some pot and get busted the charges AREN'T as serioous as if you are growing and trafficing it all over the country.
OJ hasn't paid them one cent.
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Yea he has, he was ordered to sell almost everything he owned(including his heisman trophy) and all that went to the family. Not to mention they got the royalties to his book. He hasn't paid NEARLY what he should, but he has paid some.
I mean they got the court to order him to give them his Rolex! But, it was fake so they had to give it back...lol
LATEST: A Los Angeles judge has ordered OJ SIMPSON to pay any income he received from past work, including movies, television and commercials, directly to the family of murder victim RON GOLDMAN. Superior Court Judge GERALD ROSENBERG made his ruling on the royalties yesterday (20FEB07), but rejected the family's bid to collect Simpson's earnings on future projects. The former US football star was acquitted in October 2005 of murder charges in the 12 June 1994 slayings of his ex-wife NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON and Goldman. A civil court later held him liable for the murders in a wrongful death lawsuit and ordered him to pay $35.5 million (GBP18 million), which has largely remained unpaid. Simpson's attorney, YALE GALANTER, claims royalties Simpson received from past work on films such as the NAKED GUN movies amount to almost nothing. He explains, "Last year Simpson's royalty checks from all of his movies were less than 39 cents. They got kicked to the curb again. Every door they're banging on gets slammed." Goldman's attorney, DAVID J COOK, insists the ruling on past royalties was a step in the right direction, adding, "We presume there is money and we're not going to take their word for it." The judge deferred ruling on a third request by the Goldmans to collect any advance money Simpson may have received for the book and TV show IF I DID IT, in which Simpson explains how he might have committed the murders. The book was abandoned after a public backlash and Simpson claims he has already spent the advance he received for the project. A hearing on the matter has been scheduled for 13 March (07).
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Understand, at least 80% of civil court rulings go unpaid.
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I understand, but you said he hasn't paid a cent. Which is untrue.
And my original point was not really that he got punished for what he did. The person I quoted said he "killed a woman and walked away". I was just saying he didn't really 'walk away', there was some form of punishment.
hh really hasn't been punished when you think about it, he still balls out of control and they cant touch his NFL pension. The dude golfs everyday, and he killed two people. Now that is ironic.
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either way...
He didn't just kill her and walk away. That was my point.
I don't see why Michael Vick shouldn't get punished because the dudes handled evidence badly in the case against OJ (and Johnnie Cochran could argue his way out of Hell).
Also, I bet Kobe did as much raping of that white girl as the Duke lacrosse team did on that money grubbing hooker.
Vick still broke the law, and he deserves his punishment.
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Yea, because you fight every day to eat. So by your reasoning and wonderful logic, if you fail to perform your job, you boss is free to shock you and hang you to death?
Some people make me wonder.
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Maybe if Vick killed a White dog, he might have walked too.
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lololMaybe if Vick killed a White dog, he might have walked too.
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There's not one. This is his way of making sure we all know this is a racial issue and not a criminal issue. Which, it seems, would work in his favor if he would realize the overall scheme of it. A black man (allegedly kills a white woman--was acquitted so he didn't do it) and he "got away with it." Seems that would be a plus for the African American people. Same with Kobe. Also, people are quick to forget that Vick admitted guilt. There's always someone who wants to cry foul about something. Later, QD.
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How do you figure? Didn't you post that the charges were dropped.
dropped charges = he wasn't proven guilty
So what should he be force to pay her family anything?
Huh?How do you figure? Didn't you post that the charges were dropped.
dropped charges = he wasn't proven guilty
So what should he be force to pay her family anything?
He was acquited on criminal charges and CONVICTED on civil charges.
NO CHARGES WERE DROPPED
He has to pay because he was found guilty in a civil court. Does that clear it up for you?
Honestly, that was just a form of double jeopardy that got by, by calling it "wrong full death."
Personally, I wouldn't pay them ****. Not like they earned any of it. They were just pissed that he go free.
Do you have any idea what double jeopardy is? or even the basics of our court systems? Because if you did you would realize that it's not double jeopardy.Honestly, that was just a form of double jeopardy that got by, by calling it "wrong full death."
Personally, I wouldn't pay them ****. Not like they earned any of it. They were just pissed that he go free.
Well, if you don't wanna pay. You could spend your time in jail.
I know what double jeopardy is.
Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"
Quoted just in case someone forgot......Let me ask you a question: Are you his butt buddy or just his mouth piece??? OHHH, wait......neither of you are smart enough to figure out that I can SEE ALL the posts even when you TRY TO DELETE THEM.......
Hmmmm, so let's take a look at something, shall we?
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oh my goodness is all this necessary? I think its pretty absent-minded to be trying to measure someones capabilities just over some comment they posted over the internet, you have know idea what kind of people your trying to put down, and they could be just as brilliant as you think you are.
Hmmmmm, wow......that looks quite familiar. Maybe you have the few necessary brain cells to figure out HOW that similarity happens. Same IP, same comment, only a short time apart......HMMMMM. So either yall paused your intimate activities long enough to post the SAME POST on the same computer or maybe yall is not yall at all. Which is it? Let me know or I'll make the decision all on my own and take care of it.
Time's ticking......if you don't answer, I'll be happy to ban you both. Do you still feel all smart inside???
Cat still got one or "both" your tongues???
Did you read post 179? if not here it is again:
I know what double jeopardy is.
Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"
And just to clear up the double jeopardy argument:Huh?
He was acquited on criminal charges and CONVICTED on civil charges.
NO CHARGES WERE DROPPED
He has to pay because he was found guilty in a civil court. Does that clear it up for you?
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardyDouble jeopardy also does not attach if the later charge is civil rather than criminal in nature, which involves a different legal standard. Acquittal in a criminal case does not prevent the defendant from being the defendant in a civil suit relating to the same incident (though res judicata operates within the civil court system). For example, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of a double homicide in a California criminal prosecution, but lost a civil wrongful death claim brought over the same victims.
Because he was found quilty for her death, and should be held responsible. You can't serve jail time for a civil charge, so that was the only way they could punish him.
but he was found guilty on federal charges
ohhhh okay, you made my point.
You can argue that one case is federal while the other is civil, but it's still an official form a double jeopardy. That's also proves how vengeful our society is. They were stuck on the fact that they "thought" OJ was the killer, they took him to court again on the same charges that he just beat, worded the charges differently, and tried to cash in on him. GAYDouble jeopardy is a procedural defense (and, in many countries such as the United States, Canada, Mexico, Japan and India, a constitutional right) which forbids that a defendant be tried twice for the same crime. At common law a defendant may plead autrefois acquit or autrefois convict (a peremptory plea); meaning the defendant has already been acquitted or convicted of the same offense. If this issue is raised, evidence will be placed before the court, which will normally rule as a preliminary matter whether the plea is substantiated, and if it so finds, the projected trial will be prevented from proceeding.
Quoted just in case someone forgot......
Cat still got one or "both" your tongues???
Dude, stop bein such a snob...
And you didn't answer my question
That fits me perfectly
Dude, stop bein such a snob...
Dude he was aquited on criminal charges( A.K.A. NOT GUILTY) and then found guilty in civil court. The family didn't 'think' he was guilty, he was found guilty by a jury.but he was found guilty on federal charges
ohhhh okay, you made my point.
You can argue that one case is federal while the other is civil, but it's still an official form a double jeopardy. That's also proves how vengeful our society is. They were stuck on the fact that they "thought" OJ was the killer, they took him to court again on the same charges that he just beat, worded the charges differently, and tried to cash in on him. GAY
I saw your excellent copy and paste from wikipedia. But, did you read past that paragraph to the section title EXCEPTIONS?
If you do you will clearly see what I quoted in my above statemant which proves exactly why this is not double jeopardy.
This thread is not about OJ...If you can't understand our justice system then you can start a new thread about it.
How in the hell does that not answer your question? you asked me why he should have to pay right? Because he was guilty and deserves some form of punishment. Since jail sentences can't be handed out in civil cases the only way to punish him is financially.And you didn't answer my question
are you sure u did?
I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid.
I know what double jeopardy is.
Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"
Am I sure I what?are you sure u did?
I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid.
well once you read past "because he was found guilty", you will see the rest of the sentence that explains my personal opinion:
He needs to punished for his crime.he deserves some form of punishment. Since jail sentences can't be handed out in civil cases the only way to punish him is financially.
They thought he was liable and so did the rest of the jury in the civil case. That's how our judicial system works man. Sorry if you don't agree with it, but Canada's not too far away...
Not my fight, but you're not understanding something.
I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid.
The burden of PROOF is totally different between criminal and civil. In a criminal case, where your FREEDOM/LIFE is at stake, the burden of proof is much much higher than civil where only your wallet can get hurt. Personally, I'm glad that's how it is. You should need a ton MORE PROOF to put me in jail than to give me a fine. Don't you agree? Well, that's what happened to O.J. He had a hellva defense team, the prosecution screwed the pooch on their side of the table, and voila!!! O.J. walked. Not because he DIDN'T do it necessarily, but because the state failed to convince 12 people he did it beyond any doubt. Putting on a glove or a cap like they have the Ebola virus on them convinced SOME that he didn't do it. Good. But when he was tried in a CIVIL courtroom by the PARENTS, not the state, the jurors didn't have to be 100% sure, only 51% sure he was responsible. They did. That's why he lost, and that's why it's not double jeopardy.
^^I obviously wasn't getting the point across. Hopefully that will.
I didn't know they fought cows at a slaughter house.. damn Imma need to go there and place me some bets....
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THEY SHOULD
Since you think dog fighting is so bad, you should stop eating meat and go save some fuc.king whales or something
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I'll bite......what exactly is "good" about dog fighting then?
nothing
Just pointing out this same type of cruelty is carried on a much bigger scale in totally legit way ever day. Since dog fighting pisses so many ppl off that much that they wish Vick should lose his freedom and career for 10 years, then these same people should also fight the meat industry the same way.
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It aint right to fight dogs everybody knows that ****. We talk bout this ****
everytime somebody post **** bout vick
The animals yall should be bitchin bout should be animals
that are near extinction. People that hunt them for sport
and for braggin rights.
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