looking for a lightweight battery?

[Black R]

I've been using a miata battery in my EF for some time now.

While it is a LOT lighter than the honda battery, I have been on the lookout for something even lighter.

I know lots of people go with braille ($100+) or other brands, but I wasn't willing to shell out so much.

After comparing the popular deka lightweight models on specifications, I decided to do my own research.

In an online search, I found a link to this site which has the specs including cca's and weight + decent prices for lots of batteries:

http://www.texasbattery.com/motorcycle.htm

Part No.-----Cap. AH-----Length (in)-----Width (in)-----Height (in)-----Weight (lbs)-----CCA-----Cost
YTX12-BS-------10---------6-----------------3 7/16---------5 1/8------------7.5-------------180-----$50.96
YB14L-A2-------14---------5 5/16-----------3 1/2----------6 9/16-----------7.6------------190------$38.89

If you buy a battery online, they won't ship it with acid in it. So I got the battery then went to a Batteries Plus store and they filled it for $2.00.

This battery is very light and starts my car better than my Miata battery!

[BB1_Luda]

Nice. Thats good pricing for them.
I work at Batteries Plus, and its alot more expensive here.

YTX12-BS runs $60 here
YB14L-A2 runs $50.

Both with 6 month free replacement warranty.

[Konstantin]

Nice find, Black R

BB1, which bat Plus do you work at?

[BB1_Luda]

Duluth & Snellville

I gots the hook ups too.
My pricing for those two batteries are:

YTX12-BS $29.98
YB14L-A2 $22.28
with no tax.

like 1/2 the cost for me.

[Black R]

ooh, hook us up with your pricing!

GROUP BUY anyone?

Seriously though, they are so light I'd rather have TWO of the YB14L-A2 batteries than one miata battery.

[uproot]

bigdare is gonna be pissed when he sees this. lol

nice find btw

[Papa_Smurf]

guy, i told you that you cant post anymore untill you come up with those sticker ideas!!!!!

[quickdodge®]

I have been on the lookout for something even lighter.

Why not go ahead and get a lawn tractor battery? Weighs in at around 15 pounds, where I believe the stock one is close to 60(?). I've used the AutoZone $20 lawn mower battery in my Neon when I was racing and as it was a DD. Full 800 watt stereo in it as well. Never one problem with it. Later, QD.

[B_Hoov]

odyssey batteries are SUPER light and small...but not cheap by any means!

[bigdare23]

odyssey batteries are SUPER light and small...but not cheap by any means!

I hear they don't last long.

[jmmx258]

odyssey batteries are SUPER light and small...but not cheap by any means!

If your talking about a honda oddysey, only a fool would buy the specific battery for that machine. Most any ATV, Streetbike, Sportbike battery would fit it.

Just like most of these batteries. The only real limitations on a battery working in your vehicle, is the cranking amps, and whether it'll fit in your car.

Heck, I've had nothing but bad luck with batteries lately. I'm just going to go buy a battery specific to an F350 diesel for my car. Just b/c i can lol

[BABY J]

If your talking about a honda oddysey, only a fool would buy the specific battery for that machine. Most any ATV, Streetbike, Sportbike battery would fit it.

Just like most of these batteries. The only real limitations on a battery working in your vehicle, is the cranking amps, and whether it'll fit in your car.

Heck, I've had nothing but bad luck with batteries lately. I'm just going to go buy a battery specific to an F350 diesel for my car. Just b/c i can lol

I'm thinkin' more like: http://www.odysseybatteries.com/applications/auto.htm



not...

[green91]

If your talking about a honda oddysey, only a fool would buy the specific battery for that machine.

EH come on man i hope you aren't serious. Id looked at the hawker and oddysey batteries both, im contemplating putting my battery back in the front but need something with a small form factor to have room for it.

[B_Hoov]

I'm thinkin' more like: http://www.odysseybatteries.com/applications/auto.htm



not...

exactly

[Scotsman]

I hear they don't last long.

tell that to jeff!!!!

[quickdodge®]

I'm telling you to go for the AutoZone $20 lawn mower battery. Mine lasted over 2 years with full stereo. Later, QD.

[Scotsman]

i'm gonna look into that dizzle

[green91]

Nope it wont last.

[quickdodge®]

What won't last? Later, QD.

[Scotsman]

for $20 and a reciept , its worth a try

[green91]

Nothing im kidding with ya.

[bigdare23]

isn't 180-90 CCA kinda low?

[quickdodge®]

Nothing im kidding with ya.

Lolol.

isn't 180-90 CCA kinda low?

I don't know, but after a year of that battery in my car with no problems (or even hints of problems) I was hooked. Later, QD.

[Frög]

braille carbon fiber auto battery:

[jfrolang]

My odyssey hasn't let me down. It has 680 CCA too. Weight is 15 pounds, stock battery is 30 pounds. As a bonus, it's a drycell so it doesn't need to be filled and it can't spill. Worth the money in my eyes.

Not too many batteries will fit right here either:

[Black R]

Why not go ahead and get a lawn tractor battery? Weighs in at around 15 pounds, where I believe the stock one is close to 60(?). I've used the AutoZone $20 lawn mower battery in my Neon when I was racing and as it was a DD. Full 800 watt stereo in it as well. Never one problem with it. Later, QD.

Umm, did you READ the thread?

This battery I have ALREADY PURCHASED AND INSTALLED weighs 7.6lbs.

WHY WOULD I BUY AN AUTOZONE BATTERY THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE SPECS FOR? - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WEIGHS 2X AS MUCH?

[quickdodge®]

Umm, did you READ the thread?

This battery I have ALREADY PURCHASED AND INSTALLED weighs 7.6lbs.

WHY WOULD I BUY AN AUTOZONE BATTERY THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE SPECS FOR? - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WEIGHS 2X AS MUCH?

Hey dumbass. If you don't want to clean out your vagina, that's on you. Me? I was just offering a suggestion to you. Unlike usual tradition for me, I was willing to overlook your idiocy in your last attempt to get me and put it behind us. But I see you want your defacement to continue. So continue it will.

Oh. -20.

When you're ready to be cool, let me know. Later, QD.

[Black R]

Let me help you:

"Basic debate 101, when you try to insult the other side of you argument on a personal level, it generaly means you have no case to prove and are simply looking for an emotional response, not a factual one. "

You post BS in this thread and then want to get all huffy about it when it's obvious you are clueless.

Did you actually negative rep me? BWAHAHAHAH!

[quickdodge®]

Let me help you:

"Basic debate 101, when you try to insult the other side of you argument on a personal level, it generaly means you have no case to prove and are simply looking for an emotional response, not a factual one. "

You post BS in this thread and then want to get all huffy about it when it's obvious you are clueless.

Did you actually negative rep me? BWAHAHAHAH!

Actually your response falls on much smarter ears than you think. If I were looking for an emotional response, then I got it. I made a simple post. You simply could not look beyond your last text lashing you received from me and decided it best to continue with your losing effort instead of just moving on. I was actually trying to do just that. The only BS posted in this thread is your initial response to a simple, non-threatening offer of help I gave to you. Nowhere in my post did I spout off anything to incite your estrogen into another text battle. If this is how you prefer this to be, then so be it. And good luck. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Did you actually negative rep me? BWAHAHAHAH!

Did you actually care? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

Later, QD.

[jmmx258]

Ok, I had the wrong thoughts about the batteries, Gotcha now.


The point of the thread is for a lighter battery. Understood.

However, The way I see it, if your battery weight is significantly slowing your car down, then your motor is a pile of **** and needs more work. I'm assuming this isnt the case, therefore you're wasting time/money researching and spending that much money on a battery.

With the battery you bought, i'm assuming again that you do not have any sort of larger stereo system. So, with that, a cheap ass, 30-40$ walmart battery would be more than sufficient.

[Black R]

Ok, I had the wrong thoughts about the batteries, Gotcha now.


The point of the thread is for a lighter battery. Understood.

However, The way I see it, if your battery weight is significantly slowing your car down, then your motor is a pile of **** and needs more work. I'm assuming this isnt the case, therefore you're wasting time/money researching and spending that much money on a battery.

With the battery you bought, i'm assuming again that you do not have any sort of larger stereo system. So, with that, a cheap ass, 30-40$ walmart battery would be more than sufficient.

Battery weight (or weight in general) affects all areas of performance: Acceleration (which you aluded to), Braking, and Cornering. The less weight you have on the vehicle, the better it will respond to all three.
So a lighter battery isn't helping my acceleration. No problem there.

My battery was dying anyway - otherwise I wouldn't have spent the $.
This was a purchase of necessity, but I decided to make the most of it.

In relocating the battery for better weight distrubution, and finding a suitable location, a smaller battery cuts down on the space needed. Weight is in direct correlation to size where battery technology is concerned.

IMO: Lighter = Better. (Assuming other compromises need not be met.)

I have a standard stereo system - nothing excessive, so this suits me fine. The price was better than what is available at wal-mart or any local retailer including autozone, etc. The specs were better - and the only place that carries this particular unit is Batteries Plus, but I didn't know that until Luda posted it.

No problem if you can get by with whatever battery you choose. I can tell you that this is the lightest battery I could find with decent specs that will run my car. It also happened to be very cost efficient compared to other batteries which were either heavier or more expensive, not to mention equal or worse specifications.

[quickdodge®]

The price was better than what is available at wal-mart or any local retailer including autozone, etc.

Was the battery you got at Batteries Plus (which I think is a cool spot) less than $19.99, lolol?

On to another question. Is your battery relocated to the trunk/hatch? Later, QD.

[Black R]

Was the battery you got at Batteries Plus (which I think is a cool spot) less than $19.99, lolol?

On to another question. Is your battery relocated to the trunk/hatch? Later, QD.

I bought my battery from the online retailer in my original post. It was purchased at the price listed in my original post.

Yes, my battery is relocated to the passenger rear of my vehicle but I am thinking of moving it into the fender area.

[quickdodge®]

Yes, my battery is relocated to the passenger rear of my vehicle but I am thinking of moving it into the fender area.

I thought it was. Don't remember reading it, but for some reason, I was thinking it was. This is why I ask and maybe you can elaborate:

When racing, isn't it best to have plenty of weight on the drive tires for better traction? For an import car, I would think, as light as most imports are, you'd want to keep as much weight on the front end as possible. I understand the opposite side placement for weight distribution, but wouldn't removing weight from the front of the car cause less traction on the drive tires?

ps, this isn't a rip on you. It's a legit question. I really don't know if there is something more to it than I don't know. Later, QD.

[5spdfrk]

I thought it was. Don't remember reading it, but for some reason, I was thinking it was. This is why I ask and maybe you can elaborate:

When racing, isn't it best to have plenty of weight on the drive tires for better traction? For an import car, I would think, as light as most imports are, you'd want to keep as much weight on the front end as possible. I understand the opposite side placement for weight distribution, but wouldn't removing weight from the front of the car cause less traction on the drive tires?

ps, this isn't a rip on you. It's a legit question. I really don't know if there is something more to it than I don't know. Later, QD.

You could say the same for CF hoods and such. In this case, I think he is trying to reduce weight that is higher up (higher center of gravity) such as where the battery sits stock and relocate it to the fender well so it has lower center of gravity or to the rear passenger side to offset some of the drivers weight. In any case I agree you would want to have more weight for better traction, but the 15-30 lbs one may save wouldn't make that big of a difference. A better suspension setup could counteract the loss of weight imo.

[Black R]

yeah i relocated my battery for two reasons:

1. my engine bay is quite packed with the motor swap in there + other additions under the hood.

2. relocating the battery enables me to get the cross-weights closer to where I want them when corner weighting. (drag racers may want more weight up front - but that's not my concern as I focus more on autox and road racing.)

You'll notice that many manufacturers target a 50/50 weight distribution for optimal handling for sports cars. There are packaging and design constraints with a FF honda. That being said, once you are playing with spring rates, you can do a lot to counteract the lack of traction in the front (stiffer springs in the rear ~800lb+ in my case do a lot to improve off the line traction, as do traction bars).

And people may be surprised to learn that replacing your battery with a lighter one (even in the stock location) will actually lighten up your car more than a carbon fiber hood in many cases.

[quickdodge®]

You could say the same for CF hoods and such.

I always wondered that as well.

yeah i relocated my battery for two reasons:

1. my engine bay is quite packed with the motor swap in there + other additions under the hood.

2. relocating the battery enables me to get the cross-weights closer to where I want them when corner weighting. (drag racers may want more weight up front - but that's not my concern as I focus more on autox and road racing.)

You'll notice that many manufacturers target a 50/50 weight distribution for optimal handling for sports cars. There are packaging and design constraints with a FF honda. That being said, once you are playing with spring rates, you can do a lot to counteract the lack of traction in the front (stiffer springs in the rear ~800lb+ in my case do a lot to improve off the line traction, as do traction bars).

Gotcha. That makes sense. Lolol, there's something about you may have noticed. I know a lot of shiit in the world, but if there's something I don't mind admitting, it's my lack of knowledge in cars. Beyond changing tires and oil, there's not a lot I can tell you. I know of bits and pieces, but not real technical stuff. Later, QD.

[JDMJAYDC2]

bumped up for you black r

[Black R]

got a pm recently

how did you go about hooking up the battery terminals mine didnt come with posts just a small section for a m6 screw to be screwed in i was curious on what you used.