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    Quote Originally Posted by green91 View Post
    RHD Sucks man, a lot of effort to have a vehicle thats miserable/unsafe to drive in the US.
    thanks for the unnecessary comment

    i can get my mails with out getting out of the car and still be on the right side of the street.

    but i'll will see you on the other side of checker!!!


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    Wow...this isn't safe at all. If it's a show car cool, if you're really going to drive this often. May god help you.

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    you have destroyed the structural integrity of that car. Cars are designed the way they are designed for a reason. Those random holes and things on the car are all there for a reason. Beneath that floor pan that you cut in half used to be the backbone of that car, now it is the backbone of two different cars cut in half and it looks like a death trap to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda View Post
    you have destroyed the structural integrity of that car. Cars are designed the way they are designed for a reason. Those random holes and things on the car are all there for a reason. Beneath that floor pan that you cut in half used to be the backbone of that car, now it is the backbone of two different cars cut in half and it looks like a death trap to me.
    Looks? IT IS a death trap.

    OP did you ever take any the engineering classes or anything? I mean this car probably won't even handle the same ever again not to mention be extremely weak not just in the case of a wreck either.

    Simply put, you REALLY REALLY fucked up.

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    It is safe enough to be taken to a show on a trailer but thats about it...

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    oh and LOL @ the people that voted yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda View Post
    oh and LOL @ the people that voted yes...
    I know right?

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    its one of those. "hell it works" type.
    lol
    but um keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:. View Post
    its one of those. "hell it works" type.
    lol
    but um keep up the good work.
    Does it work?

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    I think RHD conversions are retarded but at least you did a good job with it. Gotta have balls to chop a car in half and weld it back together, I'll give you the props on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_aw11 View Post
    I think RHD conversions are retarded but at least you did a good job with it. Gotta have balls to chop a car in half and weld it back together, I'll give you the props on that.
    you gotta have balls to drive it afterward thats for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda View Post
    you gotta have balls to drive it afterward thats for sure...
    ...and that's meant in the most negative way possible lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda View Post
    you gotta have balls to drive it afterward thats for sure...
    Oh yea, I'm not gonna say it's safe. It's an inherently unsafe thing to do. But it looks like he did about as good a job as you can do. Then again if I were to see it in person I might not think the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_aw11 View Post
    I think RHD conversions are retarded but at least you did a good job with it. Gotta have balls to chop a car in half and weld it back together, I'll give you the props on that.
    thanks for the unnecessary comment

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    looks damn good
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    Wow... NO!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotorEJ8 View Post
    Wow... NO!!!!

    no?

    no ketchup, lettuce, and tomato

    and can i get fries with that?

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    Good thing is with any accident it will be off the road.. the cutting of the unibody alone "totaled" this car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91 View Post
    Good thing is with any accident it will be off the road.. the cutting of the unibody alone "totaled" this car.
    I can't imagine what a minor accident in this car would act like.

    Note to OP...if you sell this car, I highly recommend documenting this build so buyer can see how it was done...

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    ive been around a few rhd conversions, i didnt read everyones post so someone might have already told you. you need to do it by cutting the firewall out and replacing it with the rhd firewall. im pretty sure this car is going to be a rattle trap and i would hate to get t-boned while driving it. if it not going to be a daily than thats ok i guess the welds look good but personally i would not drive it. just my

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuStCrUzIn View Post
    ive been around a few rhd conversions, i didnt read everyones post so someone might have already told you. you need to do it by cutting the firewall out and replacing it with the rhd firewall. im pretty sure this car is going to be a rattle trap and i would hate to get t-boned while driving it. if it not going to be a daily than thats ok i guess the welds look good but personally i would not drive it. just my
    A side impact isn't all that's dangerous, any impact is, especially anything from the front. I mean it's common sense, you don't cut in half a solid and re-weld it expecting strength, I don't care if your welds are the best ever, it will NOT work.

    Where is the OP?

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    Am I missing something, but you can't really see the welds in the pics to justify them being good. Even if they are good welds, still NO.

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    Previous posters have taken the words right out of my mouth... You'd have to have some balls to drive that on the highway... or anywhere aside from your driveway... please notify us all of when/where you are planning on driving it so that we can steer clear. You have completely compromised the structural integrity of that car, If it is going to be a show car that you drive on and off a trailer then props to you for putting way too much effort in to something that was completely unnecessary... you could have imported a safe RHD car for probably less than you have put in to this death trap. There are ways that you could have done this that would have been remotely safe, but you chose to go a route that could cost you your life should you or someone else make one wrong turn. I also hope for handling sake that you did measure everything 100% accurately otherwise the car is totally worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWGirl View Post
    I also hope for handling sake that you did measure everything 100% accurately otherwise the car is totally worthless.
    It definitely won't handle as well as before, no matter how good he measured or welded. The car lost a lot of rigidity and will handle worse, not to mention all the safety concerns everybody else said earlier.
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    I don't see a problem with this at all, as long as you had proper welds i don't see why it would fall apart. Did you guys know that the actual weld is stronger than the metal that was welded. If the welds were done properly, then you have nothing to worry about.

    its like saying those guys who build the locosts shouldn't race those cars because they welded their own frame, that's ridiculous.

    if you feel you did a proper job welding it, then you have nothing to worry about, and i see that you did this method because the car looks to have been wrecked in the front, i think you did a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    I don't see a problem with this at all, as long as you had proper welds i don't see why it would fall apart. Did you guys know that the actual weld is stronger than the metal that was welded. If the welds were done properly, then you have nothing to worry about.

    its like saying those guys who build the locosts shouldn't race those cars because they welded their own frame, that's ridiculous.

    if you feel you did a proper job welding it, then you have nothing to worry about, and i see that you did this method because the car looks to have been wrecked in the front, i think you did a good job.
    You must be a COMPLETE idiot.

    So you think that cutting a solid piece in half, then re-welding it is safe? I guess cutting wires in half then re-connecting them is fine too, and cutting a roll bar in half and re-welding, etc.

    When you split a continuous piece of anything in half and re-connect it it creates a weak point, in this case, THE HALF OF THE CAR, a VERY weak point. Have you ever made ANYTHING?

    Locost cars are NOT welded halfway through the chassis, they're also tube framed cars. Have you built one? Ever built a roll cage? Ever even read a FIA or SCCA rulebook?

    I can't believe you just posted such a stupid comment. The welds are stronger then the metal, WHO CARES HOW STRONG THE WELDS ARE, when you get the force from a 10mph fender bender hitting them lets see what split metal does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You must be a COMPLETE idiot.

    So you think that cutting a solid piece in half, then re-welding it is safe? I guess cutting wires in half then re-connecting them is fine too, and cutting a roll bar in half and re-welding, etc.

    When you split a continuous piece of anything in half and re-connect it it creates a weak point, in this case, THE HALF OF THE CAR, a VERY weak point. Have you ever made ANYTHING?

    Locost cars are NOT welded halfway through the chassis, they're also tube framed cars. Have you built one? Ever built a roll cage? Ever even read a FIA or SCCA rulebook?

    I can't believe you just posted such a stupid comment. The welds are stronger then the metal, WHO CARES HOW STRONG THE WELDS ARE, when you get the force from a 10mph fender bender hitting them lets see what split metal does.

    The welds are stronger than the metal, and yes if you cut a roll bar and reweld it properly, it will be fine.

    I have not read an FIA or SCCA rule book, but who need that in order to see what is safe or not.

    This here is a mater of material science and structural engineering, not FIA or SCCA rule book. If you've taken a course in either subject, you would know that if the welds were properly made, then there is no problem here.

    Before you start calling people idiots, get your facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    The welds are stronger than the metal, and yes if you cut a roll bar and reweld it properly, it will be fine.

    I have not read an FIA or SCCA rule book, but who need that in order to see what is safe or not.

    This here is a mater of material science and structural engineering, not FIA or SCCA rule book. If you've taken a course in either subject, you would know that if the welds were properly made, then there is no problem here.

    Before you start calling people idiots, get your facts straight.
    You are kidding right? You truly believe cutting something in half and rewelding it is stronger then if it were one continuous piece? What classes did you take? I've taken numerous engineering classes and have definitely been around stuff like this for a LONG time, I can assure you it's VERY unsafe.

    FIA and SCCA make rules per safety, FIA makes rules for basically the automotive WORLD not just racing. I was just asking because you mentioned people racing a Locost and thinking they weld in the middle of the chassis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You are kidding right? You truly believe cutting something in half and rewelding it is stronger then if it were one continuous piece? What classes did you take? I've taken numerous engineering classes and have definitely been around stuff like this for a LONG time, I can assure you it's VERY unsafe.

    FIA and SCCA make rules per safety, FIA makes rules for basically the automotive WORLD not just racing. I was just asking because you mentioned people racing a Locost and thinking they weld in the middle of the chassis.

    Note to self: Never let this Gayiata owner work on anything I see.
    You're just another IA E-thug who thinks they know everything about cars.

    jesus you're such an idiot, and you probably went to wyotech to you moron.

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    Lol I don't even care about if he got in accident or blah blah blah. I'm just LMFAO imagining this thing going down the road and breaking in half in the middle of the road. This definately gives a new meaning to "RICE" in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2NR View Post
    Lol I don't even care about if he got in accident or blah blah blah. I'm just LMFAO imagining this thing going down the road and breaking in half in the middle of the road. This definately gives a new meaning to "RICE" in my book.

    thanks for the unnecessary comment

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    isnt everyone working for the DOT all of a sudden in 2010, lol
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    Hard enough? Try 10mph lol.

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    ehhh its like trying to teach a fish to walk.

    you're so hard headed and think you're soo smart.

    welds are stronger than the metal itself, its gonna take just as much force as before to break this car in half, again if the welds are done properly. if you have welded before like this and what you made failed, its because you didn't do a good job welding it.

    and just so you know i'm majoring in mechanical engineering as well .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    ehhh its like trying to teach a fish to walk.

    you're so hard headed and think you're soo smart.

    welds are stronger than the metal itself, its gonna take just as much force as before to break this car in half, again if the welds are done properly. if you have welded before like this and what you made failed, its because you didn't do a good job welding it.

    and just so you know i'm majoring in mechanical engineering as well .
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.
    I agree with you, and this guy is a idiot.. I retract my t-bone comment and make it a crash period. I imagined him hitting a pot hole on 285 and the car breaking in half. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.
    First of all, i go to tech, so don't give me crap about my schooling.

    as for the plate example you gave, there are all different types of bonds, different glues, some glue doesn't work on some material.

    anyhow, in this case if the weld was done properly there's no problem. by properly i mean that if the weld was controlled and cooled at a certain rate (which a good welder can do, and i'm not saying this guy is a good welder b/c i don't know him) the grain boundary of the new metal (the welds) would be the same as the original grain boundary of the car metal. In this case it would have the same structural strength as before. The smaller the grain boundary, the more brittle, the larger the the grain boundaries the softer the material is. (I know that introducing new material into different metals can affect the softness and brittleness of it as well, but i don't think that's the case here) a good welder will know what kind of cooling rate certain metals need in order for the weld to not be too soft or too brittle. They will also know what kind of material they are working with.

    I guarantee you that if this is done properly (said it now for the millionth time) that it will be just fine.

    Now i just saw that this guy is using a mig welder, a tig would be ideal for the best control over the weld so i'll give you that one.
    My whole point though is that this can be done, and it can be just as safe as before if its done properly, i'm not trying to sound like an ass, if i did my b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    First of all, i go to tech, so don't give me crap about my schooling.
    GA Tech? If so, you have heard the BIG bills due to huge fuck ups Tech students have caused for Atlanta in the past? GA Tech lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5speed View Post
    GA Tech? If so, you have heard the BIG bills due to huge fuck ups Tech students have caused for Atlanta in the past? GA Tech lololol
    Please list this huge bill that they have aquired.

    Keep laughing, but tell me why do all of these major companies in the US start GA tech students out with such huge salaries, and put them in manager positions. I'm sure you're soo much smarter than all of these companies, you should tell them to stop hiring these tech students who cause huge fuck ups.

    and where do you go to school, might i ask?

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