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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    ehhh its like trying to teach a fish to walk.

    you're so hard headed and think you're soo smart.

    welds are stronger than the metal itself, its gonna take just as much force as before to break this car in half, again if the welds are done properly. if you have welded before like this and what you made failed, its because you didn't do a good job welding it.

    and just so you know i'm majoring in mechanical engineering as well .
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.
    I agree with you, and this guy is a idiot.. I retract my t-bone comment and make it a crash period. I imagined him hitting a pot hole on 285 and the car breaking in half. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    You sure do talk a lot of crap to someone you don't know, I've stated engineering facts, if you're majoring in mechanical engineering I feel horrible for whatever school you go to and I am horrified of what job you may have when you graduate.

    Tell my how the weld is stronger then the metal. I've never done this before and have never had a weld fail, I've never done this because it's common sense you just DON'T do it. No shop would even consider doing this.

    Think of it this way, I break a plate in half, I glue it together down the middle, is the plate still strong? No.

    I know I don't know everything about cars, but I do know a lot about chassis setup which in return means welding and structures. I know NOBODY in there right mind would cut a roll bar in half and weld it back like you mentioned, I also know nobody with real engineering knowledge actually just common sense would think this setup is safe.

    You're the only one being an e-thug here.
    First of all, i go to tech, so don't give me crap about my schooling.

    as for the plate example you gave, there are all different types of bonds, different glues, some glue doesn't work on some material.

    anyhow, in this case if the weld was done properly there's no problem. by properly i mean that if the weld was controlled and cooled at a certain rate (which a good welder can do, and i'm not saying this guy is a good welder b/c i don't know him) the grain boundary of the new metal (the welds) would be the same as the original grain boundary of the car metal. In this case it would have the same structural strength as before. The smaller the grain boundary, the more brittle, the larger the the grain boundaries the softer the material is. (I know that introducing new material into different metals can affect the softness and brittleness of it as well, but i don't think that's the case here) a good welder will know what kind of cooling rate certain metals need in order for the weld to not be too soft or too brittle. They will also know what kind of material they are working with.

    I guarantee you that if this is done properly (said it now for the millionth time) that it will be just fine.

    Now i just saw that this guy is using a mig welder, a tig would be ideal for the best control over the weld so i'll give you that one.
    My whole point though is that this can be done, and it can be just as safe as before if its done properly, i'm not trying to sound like an ass, if i did my b.

    what year are you in ME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranj View Post
    First of all, i go to tech, so don't give me crap about my schooling.
    GA Tech? If so, you have heard the BIG bills due to huge fuck ups Tech students have caused for Atlanta in the past? GA Tech lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5speed View Post
    GA Tech? If so, you have heard the BIG bills due to huge fuck ups Tech students have caused for Atlanta in the past? GA Tech lololol
    Please list this huge bill that they have aquired.

    Keep laughing, but tell me why do all of these major companies in the US start GA tech students out with such huge salaries, and put them in manager positions. I'm sure you're soo much smarter than all of these companies, you should tell them to stop hiring these tech students who cause huge fuck ups.

    and where do you go to school, might i ask?

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