One of the hardest CRXs I have ever seen.

[matthewAPM]

I agree 100%.

A little setup FWD facts for a few people: As some know, rotation is what makes a FWD car fast (big rear bar, high rear rates, etc etc). For low speed corners, you want a good amount of rotation to get the car through the middle of the corner. At high speeds, you dont want as much rotation on the car (we are not drifters) so you use a wing to keep the rotation down. It makes it like you have 2 setups, one high speed, one low speed.

[Bug-Rex]

Everything discussed here is just speculation for a car none of us hardly know anything about.

Period.

[BABY J]

Everything discussed here is just speculation for a car none of us hardly know anything about.

Period.

No1 is speculating anything but you. That car can not even have an engine it and that doesn't change the fact that a vehicle (ANY vehicle) traveling at speed can potentially benefit from a REAL wing placed and tuned properly. You can post any car in the world, not just this one. Since you like to assume, you can ASSUME that a purpose built track car (road-race, drag, rally, you name it) will attain speeds needed for the air-foil to work. The car posted in this thread IS a purpose-built car.

I agree w/ your comment about drag. But the fact that drag is needed to produce downforce over an air-foil is negated by how efficient that air-foil is.

[Bug-Rex]

No1 is speculating anything but you. That car can not even have an engine it and that doesn't change the fact that a vehicle (ANY vehicle) traveling at speed can potentially benefit from a REAL wing placed and tuned properly. You can post any car in the world, not just this one. Since you like to assume, you can ASSUME that a purpose built track car (road-race, drag, rally, you name it) will attain speeds needed for the air-foil to work. The car posted in this thread IS a purpose-built car.

I agree w/ your comment about drag. But the fact that drag is needed to produce downforce over an air-foil is negated by how efficient that air-foil is.

I'm pretty sure after I said the wing is not needed, everyone speculated that it was a fully built race car, and started blabbering on about how it did.

You are preaching to the choir when talking about purpose built track car. But, the CRX may be purpose built, but we are unclear if it is indeed "built."

[BABY J]

I'm pretty sure after I said the wing is not needed, everyone speculated that it was a fully built race car, and started blabbering on about how it did.

You are preaching to the choir when talking about purpose built track car. But, the CRX may be purpose built, but we are unclear if it is indeed "built."

yeah - this is normal for everyday "Taco Bell" drive-thru shit:

FRONT LIP 3 INCH
FRONT SPLITER
SPORT BIKE MIRRORS
LEXAN WINDOWS
SPARCO FIBER GLASS DRIVER SEAT
SPARCO STEAL FRAMED SEAT
CUSTOM MADE DASH
FLARED REAR FENDERS
CUSTOM REAR WING
SIX POINT ROLL CAGE
UNDER BODY PANEL
REAR DIFFUSER
8 GALLON FUEL CELL
JDM BLACK RACING WHEELS 15X7 +35 OFFSET, 11 LBS EACH
HOOSIER R6 FULL SLICK RACE TIRES 205/50R15


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(note the FPS: fire supression system)

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AAAHHHHHHHHHHH --- Lexan

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Yeah - not built.

[matthewAPM]

EVEN IF THE CAR IS NOT SEEING MORE THAN 90 AVERAGES ONLY 60, THE WING IS WORKING.

[BABY J]

EVEN IF THE CAR IS NOT SEEING MORE THAN 90 AVERAGES ONLY 60, THE WING IS WORKING.

Thank you sir. Will you marry me?

[Bug-Rex]

EVEN IF THE CAR IS NOT SEEING MORE THAN 90 AVERAGES ONLY 60, THE WING IS WORKING.

Agreed, but to what extent? Is there an advantage of not having it on?

I think we are all on the same page but don't know it. Hopefully this thread will teach someone something about aero though.

[matthewAPM]

im down lulz

Some people just dont understand...

[matthewAPM]

Who fucking cares if it its a race car, or a track car, or a time attack car, or his DD that he tracks. Fact is, wings work. Some work better than others. But when you can put even 20lbs where you need it, when you need it...it works.

[Bug-Rex]

Who fucking cares if it its a race car, or a track car, or a time attack car, or his DD that he tracks. Fact is, wings work. Some work better than others. But when you can put even 20lbs where you need it, when you need it...it works.

Agreed again, but you can't convince me that a wing like that has any advantage on an autox course...

[matthewAPM]

Agreed again, but you can't convince me that a wing like that has any advantage on an autox course...

Where the hell did you get autocross from?? He is at sebring. which means what? THE WING IS ON TRACK AND WORKING. No it wont work in a autocross but obviously he isnt autocrossing is he?

[Bug-Rex]

Who fucking cares if it its a race car, or a track car, or a time attack car, or his DD that he tracks. Fact is, wings work. Some work better than others. But when you can put even 20lbs where you need it, when you need it...it works.

You didn't specify that he was at a track which I did not know. Sure they work on that track, but your broad statement that "wings work" led me to believe that you meant any track.

[matthewAPM]

You didn't specify that he was at a track which I did not know. Sure they work on that track, but your broad statement that "wings work" led me to believe that you meant any track.

Whats there to specify?! The damn pictures should give it away.

And yes, there are wings that work at autocrosses. Tod's AM car makes 1000lbs of down force at 60mph

[Bug-Rex]

Whats there to specify?! The damn pictures should give it away.

And yes, there are wings that work at autocrosses. Tod's AM car makes 1000lbs of down force at 60mph

Depends on the autox track.

[matthewAPM]

Depends on the autox track.

I hope your joking. Really are you that stupid. Who cares where the autocross is at. 60mph is 60mph. Fact is the car makes 1000lbs of DF.

Almost EVERY autocross is 2nd in a 5speed car. Which is 60 or so. For a fast car and open wheel cars is 70-80. And arguing with me about autocross is going to be a waste of your time.

[BABY J]

Oh yeah... a lil brake ducting also for good measure.

[BABY J]

I think I'm done w/ this topic - it's been fun: Happy racing. To the OP, good find. Be easy.


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[BABY J]

Hey Bug - where is the wind-tunnel located that you work at?

[Bug-Rex]

Hey Bug - where is the wind-tunnel located that you work at?

Birmingham, Al.

I don't work there, just had access to it when needed.

[BABY J]

Save it man - he's the expert. That car isn't even built.

[Bug-Rex]

Save it man - he's the expert. That car isn't even built.

Done with this topic, eh?

[BABY J]

Done with this topic, eh?

Dumbness keeps pulling me back in here. You were shut down long ago - yet you are a glutton for punishment.

[volk_ef9]

i wish i knew where to get a splitter like that when i had my crx thats a nice car though, i commend anyone who does shit theirselves. reps.

[matthewAPM]

I got a friend that has all the designs for front splittlers for EF's if your interested.

[Bug-Rex]

We agree to disagree I guess.

In all honesty though, I would love to get behind the wheel of this thing.

[EJ25RUN]

Im sorry EJ, but the CRX is sick. Its a track car (could also be his time attack car) and the wing is there for one reason...downforce. If you know how setups work, wings on FWD cars is great.

Also for those who say autocross cars are nothing...your extremely wrong. Miata mike can chime in on this.

Why do people keep thinking i don't know this already? If you look at the threads i made in 2007-2008 I'm sure you'd find examples where i am the one arguing for wings on FWD cars.

As i already told Zero Hatch. I was only making the point that i see a lot of CRXs without wings on racetracks. That is all. It is a similar statement to saying, "I see a lot of CRXs in the color black." Nothing more. Nothing less.

Oh, i read too much not to know how setups work. Currently, I'm reading the advantage a top attached rear wing assembly on LMP prototypes that is also found on the RSR's Jaguar GT2.



Just some sidebar: I will be taking an aerodynamics course next semester as well.

[Bug-Rex]

Just some sidebar: I will be taking an aerodynamics course next semester as well.

If they offer it at your school, see if you can get into a course studying the subject matter of Computational Fluid Dynamics. You will learn so much about aero it is an incredible subject.

[EJ25RUN]

If they offer it at your school, see if you can get into a course studying the subject matter of Computational Fluid Dynamics. You will learn so much about aero it is an incredible subject.

I'm in flight school so i have to take Aero but not fluid dynamics. The engineering students have to though.

[Bug-Rex]

What school?

[EJ25RUN]

What school?

Embry Riddle

[Bug-Rex]

Nice. Great Mechanical Program.

[S.Brewer]

yeah... thats a nasty ass CRX. fuck what yall muh fukkaz say yo! Rice?! Bull shit. how about ENVY!

I love it in every aspect

[EJ25RUN]

yeah... thats a nasty ass CRX. fuck what yall muh fukkaz say yo! Rice?! Bull shit. how about ENVY!

I love it in every aspect

This is the type of thinking that drives me to say. Yes, whenever logic fails, use caps locks to show you know what you are talking about.

Yo.

[S.Brewer]

people like u r the ones who fuck up the import lifestyle. i just enjoy this. Its got a big ass ugly airplane wing and the headlights r yellow so its rice. it cant be a functional car... yo

[EJ25RUN]

people like u r the ones who fuck up the import lifestyle. i just enjoy this. Its got a big ass ugly airplane wing and the headlights r yellow so its rice. it cant be a functional car... yo

You are absolutely right. It is I, EJ25RUN ruining the import lifestyle and i alone.

I'm glad you were able to discover this.

Yo.

[87 Turbo II]

people like u r the ones who fuck up the import lifestyle. i just enjoy this. Its got a big ass ugly airplane wing and the headlights r yellow so its rice. it cant be a functional car... yo

EJ25RUN is like one of the only guys on here who has earned credibility to me to the point where I would use him as a source for a research paper. He posts some of the most intelligent stuff on these boards, and is one of the few members out there who doesn't ever start shit with people. I look forward to reading his posts when I see his name.

Not to ride his nuts or anything but he is the last person you should accuse of ruining anything automotive.

[Frög]

yeah... thats a nasty ass CRX. fuck what yall muh fukkaz say yo! Rice?! Bull shit. how about ENVY!

I love it in every aspect

LOL Envy? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA

[Got Milk?]

so old, so ugly.

[Frög]

SUPER!

LOL