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[malfeas99]

No, you didn't know it was false. No, you didn't think we'd call you on it.

Like just about every other 'fact' you've tried to bring to the table, you have shown to be completely, laughably, utterly wrong.

You got caught in a flat-out lie because you believed something that made you feel good without doing your due diligence, and now you get to look like a complete ass (again) thanks to it.

Acting like it was just a 'test' or you were just 'fishing for reactions' is something that might have worked in second grade. It does not work with real adults.

[djmaddmartin]

Idiot??? Ok clearly anything I say will not be believed. Like you didin't notice the complete doctoring of the so called email, which I didn't even get from a email but you didn't notice that did you.

I've also noticed a trend. Anytime I state a interesting fact that can't be debunked you blow over it with personal attacks and retoric. You guys aka the right wing attackers don't say a damn thing about it other than to enjoy calling me names. Nice.

36% approval rating. Explain that........Poll after poll say people don't support or agree with you or Bush. Even many of his own Republicans are getting fed up. Another fact.

But lets get to the nitty gritty. Your very distubing to me and many people in this country. And when I say you I mean the right wing conservative republicans.

While your passion for what you believe in is comendable, you react very violently to any view other than your own. That is a very dangerous trend as free speech and our basic rights are the things that are at the recieving end of your attacks.

Things I find disturbing:

An active movement towards a theological based government. History has proven that leads to nothing but disaster and holocost.

I was flipping through the channels on tv and happened to stop at one of the christian networks. Usually it has the normal thumping but today I was in for a treat. 20 dancer all in military attire dancing around a stage to the "the lord is great". Does this at all disturb you? How about someone not in this country who might happen upon this.

My brother recently came back from Iraq, and like most of the troops who served have a unique perspecitive seeing their fellow soldiers blown up. Every day he watches the news it pisses him off more and more. We have a President that has no concept of what war is and its horrors. Sorry, the national guard doesn't count as active duty. And while he loves his country doing a tour in South Korea, Afganistan, and Iraq he is no lover of Bush because he has seen the truth and what is coming from our President isn't that. You have been actively missled on a grand scale. Time will show this administrations true colors.

My other older brother also served in the Gulf War. He has lots of metal and plastic parts in him but believed that that war was just. He deals with pain everyday and will be seeing doctors for the rest of his life. You'd think he'd be pissed about being crippled in the Guld War. He isn't. He's pissed about this war and its bamboozling president. I don't blame him. He is currently working on passing the Florida Bar Exam to fight the real battle which isn't in Iraq, its right here at home against people who take your rights right from under your nose.

I look forward to your personal attacks which only make you....look bad.

No, you didn't know it was false. No, you didn't think we'd call you on it.

Like just about every other 'fact' you've tried to bring to the table, you have shown to be completely, laughably, utterly wrong.

You got caught in a flat-out lie because you believed something that made you feel good without doing your due diligence, and now you get to look like a complete ass (again) thanks to it.

Acting like it was just a 'test' or you were just 'fishing for reactions' is something that might have worked in second grade. It does not work with real adults.

[malfeas99]

Idiot??? Ok clearly anything I say will not be believed. Like you didin't notice the complete doctoring of the so called email, which I didn't even get from a email but you didn't notice that did you.

I've also noticed a trend. Anytime I state a interesting fact that can't be debunked you blow over it with personal attacks and retoric. You guys aka the right wing attackers don't say a damn thing about it other than to enjoy calling me names. Nice.

36% approval rating. Explain that........Poll after poll say people don't support or agree with you or Bush. Even many of his own Republicans are getting fed up. Another fact.

But lets get to the nitty gritty. Your very distubing to me and many people in this country. And when I say you I mean the right wing conservative republicans.

While your passion for what you believe in is comendable, you react very violently to any view other than your own. That is a very dangerous trend as free speech and our basic rights are the things that are at the recieving end of your attacks.

Things I find disturbing:

An active movement towards a theological based government. History has proven that leads to nothing but disaster and holocost.

I was flipping through the channels on tv and happened to stop at one of the christian networks. Usually it has the normal thumping but today I was in for a treat. 20 dancer all in military attire dancing around a stage to the "the lord is great". Does this at all disturb you? How about someone not in this country who might happen upon this.

My brother recently came back from Iraq, and like most of the troops who served have a unique perspecitive seeing their fellow soldiers blown up. Every day he watches the news it pisses him off more and more. We have a President that has no concept of what war is and its horrors. Sorry, the national guard doesn't count as active duty. And while he loves his country doing a tour in South Korea, Afganistan, and Iraq he is no lover of Bush because he has seen the truth and what is coming from our President isn't that. You have been actively missled on a grand scale. Time will show this administrations true colors.

My other older brother also served in the Gulf War. He has lots of metal and plastic parts in him but believed that that war was just. He deals with pain everyday and will be seeing doctors for the rest of his life. You'd think he'd be pissed about being crippled in the Guld War. He isn't. He's pissed about this war and its bamboozling president. I don't blame him. He is currently working on passing the Florida Bar Exam to fight the real battle which isn't in Iraq, its right here at home against people who take your rights right from under your nose.

I look forward to your personal attacks which only make you....look bad.

You don't get it.

I'm not a conservative right-wing republican.

I never voted for Bush.

I am JUST here to expose your pompous self-fellating lies for what they are.

It is a RARITY for you to make a cogent, salient point on this board, not the norm.

I will address just three things that you said in all your inane ramblings:

1) 36% approval rating. Explain that........Poll after poll say people don't support or agree with you or Bush. Even many of his own Republicans are getting fed up. Another fact.

It would make more sense if you were to compare that to the approval ratings of other presidents around this time in their presidencies. If you do, you'll find that Bush's approval rating isn't devastatingly low (I think Clinton's was 42% or something, but don't quote me on that, look it up). No doubt things such as high gas prices and the hurricaines also contributed to that. Generally, if people are pissed off, they're stupid enough to think that it's the president's fault. Do I think Bush is a failure overall as a president? Yes. Do I tout pointless approval ratings of a lame duck president to prove my point? No. That's the difference between people who have learned to think and people who have not.

2) I was flipping through the channels on tv and happened to stop at one of the christian networks. Usually it has the normal thumping but today I was in for a treat. 20 dancer all in military attire dancing around a stage to the "the lord is great". Does this at all disturb you? How about someone not in this country who might happen upon this.

It would disturb me a great deal more if it were state-sponsored or state-mandated. Otherwise, however much I do or do not approve, it's a private organization performing a song. I thought you were all about free speech? No, you're just about free speech that you agree with.

3) An active movement towards a theological based government. History has proven that leads to nothing but disaster and holocost.

You sad, sad little man. You have no idea where your own political ideology takes YOU. You're right, that theocracies lead to oppressive governments. SO DOES LEFTIST COLLECTIVISM. As a matter of fact, if you'll look at the large-scale massacres and government oppression over the past 100 years in the western world (middle east is another matter entirely), you'll find that collectivist ideology has killed over 100 million people.

But hey, Bush sucks and we should just try to get it right, eh? Surely they were just missing some proper timing or some shit.

Get a grip, poindexter. You can't win here, because you haven't learn to reason, and your ideology is fundamentally fallacious.

[djmaddmartin]

LEFTIST COLLECTIVISM.....?????? Wooo nice word

Its more complex than that:





Have fun with this one. I will enjoy reading your rant.

You don't get it.

I'm not a conservative right-wing republican.

I never voted for Bush.

I am JUST here to expose your pompous self-fellating lies for what they are.

It is a RARITY for you to make a cogent, salient point on this board, not the norm.

I will address just three things that you said in all your inane ramblings:

1) 36% approval rating. Explain that........Poll after poll say people don't support or agree with you or Bush. Even many of his own Republicans are getting fed up. Another fact.

It would make more sense if you were to compare that to the approval ratings of other presidents around this time in their presidencies. If you do, you'll find that Bush's approval rating isn't devastatingly low (I think Clinton's was 42% or something, but don't quote me on that, look it up). No doubt things such as high gas prices and the hurricaines also contributed to that. Generally, if people are pissed off, they're stupid enough to think that it's the president's fault. Do I think Bush is a failure overall as a president? Yes. Do I tout pointless approval ratings of a lame duck president to prove my point? No. That's the difference between people who have learned to think and people who have not.

2) I was flipping through the channels on tv and happened to stop at one of the christian networks. Usually it has the normal thumping but today I was in for a treat. 20 dancer all in military attire dancing around a stage to the "the lord is great". Does this at all disturb you? How about someone not in this country who might happen upon this.

It would disturb me a great deal more if it were state-sponsored or state-mandated. Otherwise, however much I do or do not approve, it's a private organization performing a song. I thought you were all about free speech? No, you're just about free speech that you agree with.

3) An active movement towards a theological based government. History has proven that leads to nothing but disaster and holocost.

You sad, sad little man. You have no idea where your own political ideology takes YOU. You're right, that theocracies lead to oppressive governments. SO DOES LEFTIST COLLECTIVISM. As a matter of fact, if you'll look at the large-scale massacres and government oppression over the past 100 years in the western world (middle east is another matter entirely), you'll find that collectivist ideology has killed over 100 million people.

But hey, Bush sucks and we should just try to get it right, eh? Surely they were just missing some proper timing or some shit.

Get a grip, poindexter. You can't win here, because you haven't learn to reason, and your ideology is fundamentally fallacious.

[malfeas99]

LEFTIST COLLECTIVISM.....?????? Wooo nice word

Its more complex than that:





Have fun with this one. I will enjoy reading your rant.

Yes, leftist collectivist. Because there's also rightist collectvists (fascists). The ideologies are actually not that far apart in their extremes. Do some reading on the Russian and German intelligence agents that were sent to the other side to convert communists to fascists and vice versa. It was actually very easy, because they're almost exactly the same in practice and result.

Do you honestly think I've never seen one of those graphs? Do you honestly think it has anything to do with what I said to you, and your complete lack of response to any of it?

Once again, you've shown that you can't actually say anything unless it's been spoon-fed to you by someone else. I'm sure after some more frenetic searching on dailykos or democraticunderground, you'll respond with some very pithy political cartoons illustrating how stupid Bush is. Again.

[Flamed03]

Ok clearly anything I say will not be believed. .

DING DING DING! we have a winner!

im a republican. lets give the reasons why: i have a job, i dont want wellfare or government handouts, im not gay, i want to keep my guns, i hate people who are useless and have no job, i hate anyone who thinks i or any other working american owe them, be it because they can't get a job, or because they were inslaved 10 generations ago, hell, i could go on, but im ready to go to bed. so, to hillary and her supporters,

[Elrichthain]

im a republican. lets give the reasons why: i have a job, i dont want wellfare or government handouts, im not gay, i want to keep my guns, i hate people who are useless and have no job, i hate anyone who thinks i or any other working american owe them, be it because they can't get a job, or because they were inslaved 10 generations ago, hell, i could go on, but im ready to go to bed. so, to hillary and her supporters,

Haha, are you serious? You're a republican because you're not gay? Because it's a well-established fact that if you are not gay then you are obviously republican, and vice-versa. And because you want to keep your guns? Because if you weren't republican or the country was run by non-republicans then all guns will be destroyed. It will be grandfathered in, too. Troops will go to everybody's house and take guns they already have. And in the meantime, probably kill you for inslaving them 10 generations ago, because non republicans are all black. Furthermore, I didn't realize it was so obvious that people think that you owe them because they simply can't get a job, or that they're black. We must not have hidden that well from you, you smart devil.

Wow, is this what republicanism is? I wonder why people hate you guys so much. Pick up a fucking book before you vote in this country, ok?

[Flamed03]

Haha, are you serious? You're a republican because you're not gay? Because it's a well-established fact that if you are not gay then you are obviously republican, and vice-versa. And because you want to keep your guns? Because if you weren't republican or the country was run by non-republicans then all guns will be destroyed. It will be grandfathered in, too. Troops will go to everybody's house and take guns they already have. And in the meantime, probably kill you for inslaving them 10 generations ago, because non republicans are all black. Furthermore, I didn't realize it was so obvious that people think that you owe them because they simply can't get a job, or that they're black. We must not have hidden that well from you, you smart devil.

Wow, is this what republicanism is? I wonder why people hate you guys so much. Pick up a fucking book before you vote in this country, ok?

im a college graduate, so i picked up more than one book in my life.
about the guns, look at the brady bill. look at the countless organizations hell bent on removing all guns from private ownership. my father owned a retail establishment that carried firearms. he had a FFL, and every year there were more imposing laws limiting firearms purchases, such as the 24 hour delay between purchase and delivery, the nics instant background check (which could take up to 48 hours) and i could go on. not one of them reduced crime. we dont need more gun laws, we just need to act on those allready in existence.
about being gay. i dont believe in gay marrage. nothing more. marrage is a union between man and woman. i dont care what you put in your ass. thats your problem, not mine.
about welfare and minorities. welfare is stupid. i have no heart for worthless people living off of my taxes. they can all starve and rot for all i care. democrats tend to take money from the rich to feed the poor. fuck that. why penalize someone who has worked hard all their life to become rich. know countless people who are on welfare and government handouts. they are all lazy and worthless. as for minorities, no problem with any of them. i cannot stand it when i hear a black person talking about slavery. neither can my black friends. jesus people, get over it! if life is so bad here, leave! we wont miss you.

[CSquared]

about welfare and minorities. welfare is stupid. i have no heart for worthless people living off of my taxes. they can all starve and rot for all i care. democrats tend to take money from the rich to feed the poor. fuck that. why penalize someone who has worked hard all their life to become rich. know countless people who are on welfare and government handouts. they are all lazy and worthless.

I really dont want to get back into this again and I'm not going to touch everything you said because frankly it isnt worth it... but as far as taxing the rich... God damn right we should tax the rich.

Every man in the united states is not created equal. If you grab a kid from the projects whose family never had a dime to their name, that kid is most likely damned to live the same life that his family did for generations. On the other hand, if you grab a kid from the upper class who has a parent making a triple digit salary, that kid is pretty f'n likely to succeed. Money earns money.

Here is a real life example... maybe far fetched... humor me...

I am a hard working college student going to a shitty local school taking out loans and putting myself in debt to get an education. Then you have another guy my age going to a more accredited university, with his mom and dad paying his way. Who do you think is going to have it better? Who do you think is going to have an easier time getting a job or starting his own company out of college?

Then you have trash like paris hilton... Who will never go to college... who has never done anything productive with her life aside from making a sex video which i have enjoyed on my occassions... Once again she has life handed to her on a silver platter.

Although some may take advantage of the system, many people lack the tools to make it in life. If we lived in the jungle and didnt give a shit about our fellow man... Then sure let them suffer... let them die... But we live in America... which although it may be a capitalist nation, is meant to give every man and woman an oppertunity to live out their "dream".

That is all,
Chris

[Flamed03]

Every man in the united states is not created equal. If you grab a kid from the projects whose family never had a dime to their name, that kid is most likely damned to live the same life that his family did for generations. On the other hand, if you grab a kid from the upper class who has a parent making a triple digit salary, that kid is pretty f'n likely to succeed. Money earns money.
Here is a real life example... maybe far fetched... humor me...
I am a hard working college student going to a shitty local school taking out loans and putting myself in debt to get an education. Then you have another guy my age going to a more accredited university, with his mom and dad paying his way. Who do you think is going to have it better? Who do you think is going to have an easier time getting a job or starting his own company out of college?

i believe that hard work pays off. just because some kid was born poor doesnt mean he/she cannot do good in school. i have a ton of friends whos parents are dirt poor. they have not had any help paying for college. they work their ass off, and becuase of their integredy and hard work, it will pay off. one friend of mine was an orphan by the time he was 13. lived with his grandmother till he was 16. worked for a asphault company though high school and college. he is now working for oracle, making 6 figures. thats probably the most extreme case, but similar situations are normal. i worked my ass off in high school, and got hope. hope payed for 4 years of KSU. i had a B.S. now, and i will be working on my masters this coming fall. i also own my house, and my car. and my parents have not helped whatsoever. and i never expected them to. so why is it that the poor cannot do the same thing i have?