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[CSquared]

Yes, because people having a political argument in a politics forum is just SO UNCOUTH.

Christ, that's like you barging into your mother's bedroom and telling her to stop riding me like a bucking bronco.

POLITICAL FORUMS CONTAIN POLITICAL ARGUMENTS AND COMMENTARY.

If you do not like it, do not involve yourself. Or go into the religion forum and tell people to stop talking about Islam or Christianity. Or the suspension forum and tell them to shut up when they argue about which coilover setup is better.

Fuck, you're stupid.

Actually asshole, I tell you to shut the fuck up because neither of you are accomplishing anything with your inane posts. Aside from the fact that both of you are closedminded about your beliefs, there is nothing else to be gained or established.

If you feel so strongly go write to the local congressman instead of wasting your time discussing such topics on an atlanta automobile forum. I understand that this IS a political forum, but there are certainly more constructive things that can be said in this area.

As far as the religion forum... They may as well fucking combine the two because you have to same reoccuring battle over and over again. Literally you could create an outline for an arguement, fill in the blanks with the needed topic (Christianity, George Bush, God, Heaver, Hell, O.j. Simpson), and paste. At least then you wouldn't have to waste the 20 minutes it took you to look up your words and such in the dictionary or thesauras.

As far as my mom... Enjoy... I dont like her much anyway...

Later.

p.s. 3 cheers for torture

[Elrichthain]

Actually asshole, I tell you to shut the fuck up because neither of you are accomplishing anything with your inane posts. Aside from the fact that both of you are closedminded about your beliefs, there is nothing else to be gained or established.

If you feel so strongly go write to the local congressman instead of wasting your time discussing such topics on an atlanta automobile forum. I understand that this IS a political forum, but there are certainly more constructive things that can be said in this area.

This is a very unproductive post, CRAMER. First of all, by namecalling you achieve nothing (as goes for the others who do so so often). Secondly, the best way for a closedminded person the open their mind is to hear the argument by the other extreme. It is sometimes VERY inane, but still productive, if at least to make them feel better. Don't suggest people to "stop wasting [their] time discussing such topics on an atlanta automobile forum," because this, like you said "IS a political forum." If you don't like the idea of people discussing poitics, then please, help yourself and others by not going through the "News & Politics" section of an open forum.

[CSquared]

This is a very unproductive post, CRAMER. First of all, by namecalling you achieve nothing (as goes for the others who do so so often). Secondly, the best way for a closedminded person the open their mind is to hear the argument by the other extreme. It is sometimes VERY inane, but still productive, if at least to make them feel better. Don't suggest people to "stop wasting [their] time discussing such topics on an atlanta automobile forum," because this, like you said "IS a political forum." If you don't like the idea of people discussing poitics, then please, help yourself and others by not going through the "News & Politics" section of an open forum.

I assure you that niether of these guys are going to wake up tomorrow morning and say "you know... maybe ____ was right...". Half of this thread hasnt even been about politics. The previous posts are about 35% factual information laid upon a structure of personal jabs. As i said, i wouldnt mind if it were two guys having a civilized discussion saying, "You know maybe i dont agree totally, but you DO have some decent points." Instead from their beginning of their "battle" it has been malfeas99 trying to point out and exploit djmaddmartin's "stupidity".

Although i do believe you have the right to express your own opinion, and you once again pointed out the fact that this is a political forum, I just don't see any point in the "conversation" they are carrying. I enjoy a political debate just as much as the next guy but If you are going to talk politics... then ACTUALLY talk politics. Half of the shit in this thread i wouldnt say to my worst enemy if we were having such a discussion.

Whatever though. I have no further interest in this thread.

Best,
Cramer

[malfeas99]

I assure you that niether of these guys are going to wake up tomorrow morning and say "you know... maybe ____ was right...". Half of this thread hasnt even been about politics. The previous posts are about 35% factual information laid upon a structure of personal jabs. As i said, i wouldnt mind if it were two guys having a civilized discussion saying, "You know maybe i dont agree totally, but you DO have some decent points." Instead from their beginning of their "battle" it has been malfeas99 trying to point out and exploit djmaddmartin's "stupidity".

Although i do believe you have the right to express your own opinion, and you once again pointed out the fact that this is a political forum, I just don't see any point in the "conversation" they are carrying. I enjoy a political debate just as much as the next guy but If you are going to talk politics... then ACTUALLY talk politics. Half of the shit in this thread i wouldnt say to my worst enemy if we were having such a discussion.

Whatever though. I have no further interest in this thread.

Best,
Cramer

I have to point out and exploit djmaddmartin's stupidity because since I have been a member, all he has done is contribute the most pointless, absurd, ignorant, regurgitated crap I've had the pleasure of hearing outside of dedicated political websites and forums.

Since he is actually incapable of a structured, rational discussion, this is all I can really do.

You are right, that people can express their opinions all they like. But opinions are not created equal, and if you express one that is founded on irrational, factually incorrect, and otherwise easily refutable bases, then it is going to get torn down, and you will get ridiculed for it.

We are not born knowing how to think. One has to learn how to think... and that's the problem. Nobody bothers learning how to actually think.

This is the internet, Cramer. It's been a very large part of my day-to-day life for a long time now, and due to that, my BS limit is extremely low. If someone barges onto a forum (as DJ has done since day 1) and starts spouting off retarded regurgitated garbage, they're going to be exposed for what they are: pointless wastes of bytes and oxygen. People tend to be more curt, less courteous, and meaner on the internet, especially when arguing... and especially if they have history. Don't take it personally. I don't.

My tone with people who are civil is similarly civil. If you and I find ourselves in another thread without DJ and we exchange opinions politely, then that's the way it will stay.

DJ has earned nothing but enmity from me and just about everyone else on this board, and has done or said NOTHING to earn respect for his point of view or intellectual capacity. Until that changes, in this arena, he will continue to be treated as he deserves.

[CSquared]

I have to point out and exploit djmaddmartin's stupidity because since I have been a member, all he has done is contribute the most pointless, absurd, ignorant, regurgitated crap I've had the pleasure of hearing outside of dedicated political websites and forums.

Since he is actually incapable of a structured, rational discussion, this is all I can really do.

You are right, that people can express their opinions all they like. But opinions are not created equal, and if you express one that is founded on irrational, factually incorrect, and otherwise easily refutable bases, then it is going to get torn down, and you will get ridiculed for it.

We are not born knowing how to think. One has to learn how to think... and that's the problem. Nobody bothers learning how to actually think.

This is the internet, Cramer. It's been a very large part of my day-to-day life for a long time now, and due to that, my BS limit is extremely low. If someone barges onto a forum (as DJ has done since day 1) and starts spouting off retarded regurgitated garbage, they're going to be exposed for what they are: pointless wastes of bytes and oxygen. People tend to be more curt, less courteous, and meaner on the internet, especially when arguing... and especially if they have history. Don't take it personally. I don't.

My tone with people who are civil is similarly civil. If you and I find ourselves in another thread without DJ and we exchange opinions politely, then that's the way it will stay.

DJ has earned nothing but enmity from me and just about everyone else on this board, and has done or said NOTHING to earn respect for his point of view or intellectual capacity. Until that changes, in this arena, he will continue to be treated as he deserves.

Yeah the "stfu" post was a little moronic on my behalf. Although that may be true, i would still like to see an end to this thread. I'm not going to repeat myself or try to make any other conjectures at this point. Also, the dictionary thing was just to get a reaction. If you actually use such words in every day speech then more power to you. That'd be pretty refreshing considering how many morons i meet on a daily basis.

anyway... I'm moving on to bigger and better things.

Regards,
C2

[djmaddmartin]

I agree, I'm not going to change Malfeces's big mouth and combative support of bamboozling rubie law makers. Here that Feces! LOL Thanks for the intellectual input Cramerizking. Peace OUT

Yeah the "stfu" post was a little moronic on my behalf. Although that may be true, i would still like to see an end to this thread. I'm not going to repeat myself or try to make any other conjectures at this point. Also, the dictionary thing was just to get a reaction. If you actually use such words in every day speech then more power to you. That'd be pretty refreshing considering how many morons i meet on a daily basis.


anyway... I'm moving on to bigger and better things.

Regards,
C2

[malfeas99]

I agree, I'm not going to change Malfeces's big mouth and combative support of bamboozling rubie law makers. Here that Feces! LOL Thanks for the intellectual input Cramerizking. Peace OUT

I don't support 'bamboozling rubie lawmakers'. I support facts.

I find it immensely amusing that you're trying to play the part of the innocent, rational, civil person who raised some points and is just flabbergasted as to why he's being abused.

You start combative, idiotic, jingoistic threads, supplement them with inane inflammatory and otherwise insubstantial political cartoons and photoshops and flash animations, guess what: You're going to get treated precisely as well as you deserve.

That is to say, not very well at all.

Nice with the nickname, I'm sure I'll cry about that later. Helps to illustrate how civil and intellectually mature you are. Good on you, moron.

[malfeas99]

Actually asshole, I tell you to shut the fuck up because neither of you are accomplishing anything with your inane posts. Aside from the fact that both of you are closedminded about your beliefs, there is nothing else to be gained or established.

If you feel so strongly go write to the local congressman instead of wasting your time discussing such topics on an atlanta automobile forum. I understand that this IS a political forum, but there are certainly more constructive things that can be said in this area.

As far as the religion forum... They may as well fucking combine the two because you have to same reoccuring battle over and over again. Literally you could create an outline for an arguement, fill in the blanks with the needed topic (Christianity, George Bush, God, Heaver, Hell, O.j. Simpson), and paste. At least then you wouldn't have to waste the 20 minutes it took you to look up your words and such in the dictionary or thesauras.

As far as my mom... Enjoy... I dont like her much anyway...

Later.

p.s. 3 cheers for torture

You're the second person on IA to make the mistake of accusing me that I look up words in a dictionary or thesaurus.

Look, just because you don't know what they mean doesn't mean I don't.

I'm a diction whore, and I'm sorry if that makes you feel inadequate. There are people that go through life without a bare-ass minimum vocabulary.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person, except for making a 'omg stfu' post on a thread after it's been going on without for 3 pages. Don't make the mistake of underestimating anyone else's intellect, and you'll get similar treatment.