For the stance kiddies/hardparkers...

[Glides]

This entire arguement is pretty dumb.

1. The car passed Tech at a Road Race venue. Hallett Raceway in OK to be exact if the other thread is to be believed. So it PASSED a Tech, most likely an SCCA tech. So whatever he did, he did it right. Either that, or the Tech Inspectors up there are fucking stupid.

2. Weld in or Bolt in, the car upended and landed flat on the roof. It was a flat hit. Not a side glance or a roll but a flat fall straight on the roof. That will test the best of bought cages. When I safetied for a Stunt man friend of mine, he welded one up for a Pipe Ramp roll for in a Limousine, it was welded the entire length of the Limo insides. He hit the ramp too close into center and lazy flipped it. The only thing that kept his from pushing through was that he landed on a bed of cars. It he would have landed flat onthe pavement, same thing would have happened.

3. As for bikes being safer than cars. That's a toss up. Anytime you go skidding across the ground on some Cow Skin, then do a tumbleweed in the grass, you are going to get hurt. I know AMA racers who are good, and they are injured about 30% of the time. Missing work and other things. I don't see that of my Amatuer Auto racing friends. Not by a long shot.

So...none of you know what kind of cage it was, what size the feet were, if they were welded or bolted in....so whats the arguement and how in the hell does this have a thing to do with Stance people? That's about the dumbest statement i've heard in this entire thread. OP, if you would have shown a thread of a Hella Flush guy with a bolt in Cusco cage who flipped it in the mountains of North Georgia...I would agree with you. But you chose a track teched race car that landed on a flat hit. Plus....you are 25 years old, you aren't much past Kiddie status yourself.

So go try and pick on another style of vehicle....or at least post a photo and thread of the style you are trying to make fun of. This entire thread reeks of stupid.

[Elbow]

This entire arguement is pretty dumb.

1. The car passed Tech at a Road Race venue. Hallett Raceway in OK to be exact if the other thread is to be believed. So it PASSED a Tech, most likely an SCCA tech. So whatever he did, he did it right. Either that, or the Tech Inspectors up there are fucking stupid.

2. Weld in or Bolt in, the car upended and landed flat on the roof. It was a flat hit. Not a side glance or a roll but a flat fall straight on the roof. That will test the best of bought cages. When I saftied for a guy, he welded one up for a Pipe Ramp roll for in a Limousine, it was welded the entire length of the Limo insides. He hit the ramp too close into center and lazy flipped it. The only thing that kept his from pushing through was that he landed on a bed of cars. It he would have landed flat onthe pavement, same thing would have happened.

3. As for bikes being safer than cars. That's a toss up. Anytime you go skidding across the ground on some Cow Skin, then do a tumbleweed in the grass, you are going to get hurt. I know AMA racers who are good, and they are injured about 30% of the time. Missing work and other things. I don't see that of my Amatuer Auto racing friends. Not by a long shot.

So...none of you know what kind of cage it was, what size the feet were, if they were welded or bolted in....so whats the arguement and how in the hell does this have a thing to do with Stance people? That's about the dumbest statement i've heard in this entire thread.

I think two people were in the car, I've never been to a track day where the tech inspection includes looking at the cage or bar, a simple glance is fine, but they've never actually looked at it.

Hell NASA let me on track at Road Atlanta in a Civic with a half finished cage and it didn't even have rear braces.

[Glides]

I think two people were in the car, I've never been to a track day where the tech inspection includes looking at the cage or bar, a simple glance is fine, but they've never actually looked at it.

Hell NASA let me on track at Road Atlanta in a Civic with a half finished cage and it didn't even have rear braces.

Lol. My tech inspections at SOLO II in the Bucaneer region checked the cage welds in my Honda. I went to them in Atlanta too when they used to be at Lakewood....checked them there too. I can't think of a time when they weren't checked. Oh well. Maybe they checked em cause it was an ITB car. I dunno but they for sure went in through the pasenger side, looked at each one and checked my upper seat securing and my belt bar. They were Nazis.

[AFSil80]

So...none of you know what kind of cage it was, what size the feet were, if they were welded or bolted in....so whats the arguement and how in the hell does this have a thing to do with Stance people? That's about the dumbest statement i've heard in this entire thread. OP, if you would have shown a thread of a Hella Flush guy with a bolt in Cusco cage who flipped it in the mountains of North Georgia...I would agree with you. But you chose a track teched race car that landed on a flat hit. Plus....you are 25 years old, you aren't much past Kiddie status yourself.

So go try and pick on another style of vehicle....or at least post a photo and thread of the style you are trying to make fun of. This entire thread reeks of stupid.

It was an Autopower cage.

As far as the argument thing goes, I enjoy harassing stance kids/hardparkers. Call it my sinful indulgence, and of course I wasn't expecting this thread to be taken 100% seriously. If that were my goal, I would've simply put up pics of the car, and left out the parts about raggin on hardparkers.

Reason I DID choose to include it was b/c I saw these pics, and was reminded of this thread.

Let's be real. Stance/hardparker/show guys all do their thing for one reason. Attention. You know it, I know it, and a few others do too, but most of the guys participating in it won't admit it, rather they try to say "I'm just down with the scene, man." Ghetto crap work done in the name of trendsetting is a terrible thing, but yet you see it all over the place!

People are gonna disagree with what I just said, probably call me a motherfucker and talk shit whenever they see my ragged ass 240, but the fact is that I chose to modify my car because I enjoy driving it. I don't care if anyone else thinks it's ugly, slow, gay, whatever. Shit don't bother me, but I've noticed that it ain't like that with the aforementioned group of hipster kids of the car community. Fuck going with the flow. Trends are for kids that only care about how others perceive them. It ain't my cup of tea, so I'll continue to rag on people who gotta play up to others just to feel accepted.

[Elbow]

Lol. My tech inspections at SOLO II in the Bucaneer region checked the cage welds in my Honda. I went to them in Atlanta too when they used to be at Lakewood....checked them there too. I can't think of a time when they weren't checked. Oh well. Maybe they checked em cause it was an ITB car. I dunno but they for sure went in through the pasenger side, looked at each one and checked my upper seat securing and my belt bar. They were Nazis.

For Solo 2? Why? The chance of hitting anything is rare as hell lol. They NEVER checked my ITC cage there or the bar in my Miata.

It was an Autopower cage.

As far as the argument thing goes, I enjoy harassing stance kids/hardparkers. Call it my sinful indulgence, and of course I wasn't expecting this thread to be taken 100% seriously. If that were my goal, I would've simply put up pics of the car, and left out the parts about raggin on hardparkers.

Reason I DID choose to include it was b/c I saw these pics, and was reminded of this thread.

Let's be real. Stance/hardparker/show guys all do their thing for one reason. Attention. You know it, I know it, and a few others do too, but most of the guys participating in it won't admit it, rather they try to say "I'm just down with the scene, man." Ghetto crap work done in the name of trendsetting is a terrible thing, but yet you see it all over the place!

People are gonna disagree with what I just said, probably call me a motherfucker and talk shit whenever they see my ragged ass 240, but the fact is that I chose to modify my car because I enjoy driving it. I don't care if anyone else thinks it's ugly, slow, gay, whatever. Shit don't bother me, but I've noticed that it ain't like that with the aforementioned group of hipster kids of the car community. Fuck going with the flow. Trends are for kids that only care about how others perceive them. It ain't my cup of tea, so I'll continue to rag on people who gotta play up to others just to feel accepted.

www.stancefails.weebly.com

[Black R]

Lol at this thread.

I'll stick with my bolt-in autopower rollbar over a cusco deathtrap "cage" anyday.

The op car looks like a dedicated track car - any idea why he didn't go with at least a 6 point weld in cage?

[GSRteg®]

[Elbow]

Lol at this thread.

I'll stick with my bolt-in autopower rollbar over a cusco deathtrap "cage" anyday.

The op car looks like a dedicated track car - any idea why he didn't go with at least a 6 point weld in cage?

It's an Autopower bolt in. Not sure why it's not a weld in but either way if he welded it wherever it was bolted I'd expect the same result. A bolt in cage or weld in is only as safe as it's mounted. In this case it looks like straight to the floorboard.

[tnomud]

FWIW, my buddy ran a 1000+ WHP C6-Z06 at the Texas Mile a few months back in the 200+ class..........no cage at all...........

[Elbow]

FWIW, my buddy ran a 1000+ WHP C6-Z06 at the Texas Mile a few months back in the 200+ class..........no cage at all...........

What's that prove? lol

[tnomud]

What's that prove? lol

I dunno, thought it was funny........

They sropped by on the way to Texas and opened the trailer...

Car looked bone fucking stock........lol.


Crazy people exist

(NOTE: driver of this car was also the same guy on youtube who wrecked that Colt at 200MPH on the interstate)

[Elbow]

I dunno, thought it was funny........

They sropped by on the way to Texas and opened the trailer...

Car looked bone fucking stock........lol.


Crazy people exist

(NOTE: driver of this car was also the same guy on youtube who wrecked that Colt at 200MPH on the interstate)

If crazy people didn't exist motorsport would be boring. If racing was safe I'd quit, I'd like to keep it as dangerous as possible.

[Glides]

It was an Autopower cage.

As far as the argument thing goes, I enjoy harassing stance kids/hardparkers. Call it my sinful indulgence, and of course I wasn't expecting this thread to be taken 100% seriously. If that were my goal, I would've simply put up pics of the car, and left out the parts about raggin on hardparkers.

Reason I DID choose to include it was b/c I saw these pics, and was reminded of this thread.

Let's be real. Stance/hardparker/show guys all do their thing for one reason. Attention. You know it, I know it, and a few others do too, but most of the guys participating in it won't admit it, rather they try to say "I'm just down with the scene, man." Ghetto crap work done in the name of trendsetting is a terrible thing, but yet you see it all over the place!

People are gonna disagree with what I just said, probably call me a motherfucker and talk shit whenever they see my ragged ass 240, but the fact is that I chose to modify my car because I enjoy driving it. I don't care if anyone else thinks it's ugly, slow, gay, whatever. Shit don't bother me, but I've noticed that it ain't like that with the aforementioned group of hipster kids of the car community. Fuck going with the flow. Trends are for kids that only care about how others perceive them. It ain't my cup of tea, so I'll continue to rag on people who gotta play up to others just to feel accepted.

That was a very well put post. I will agree with about 90% of it.

The 10% I don't agree with is that EVERYONE, no matter who you are, fixes their car up for themselves...as well as others. No matter how much you say you don't care....you do. Anyone that says differently is lying through their teeth. Yes you drive a 240 because you say you like driving it and you say that you don't care what the guy looking at it thinks but I will be the first one to bet that when someone says, "Holy crap man, I love the way that looks", you will dammm sure not tell them you don't give a shit what they think.

It's great when people who claim they don't care, are the first ones to talk about what they did to their car and how they did it when someone compliments it. Funny how that works.

Hardparkers, Stancers.....whatever you want to call it, you are no different from them. They all say the same thing you are.

"I don't build my car for anyone, I build it for me....fuck what everyone thinks".....until everyone is complimenting on it, then they are all goo goo gaa gaa.

[AFSil80]

I'm not going to disagree with what you said about getting compliments. I'd be lying out of my ass if I said that I didn't enjoy them. I guess the way I should have phrased it is that 'I don't care if people compliment it or not.' Different strokes for different folks. However, most of my friends will attest to the fact that I always refer to my car as a raggedy beat up Nissan, b/c that's what it is! If someone is kind enough to compliment me on it, I almost always play it down b/c I don't view it as some sort of breakthrough car (like the DSG 240RS). I've done nothing special with it to warrant any sort of special attention.

This is why I get a kick out of watching folks suck their own wiener when they're at meets, and only sit by their car and never go walk around to check out everyone else's stuff.

EDIT: FYI, the only defect free panel on my car is my hood, and that's b/c it's pretty much brand new. Every single other panel on my car has a dent of some sort. Roof included. They each tell a story though, hahaha. That's where I get my fun.