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Thread: 03 cobra vs. S2k who would handle better around a track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicStang03 View Post
    right! For the people who missed this video posted earlier

    This car has the same springs as me and some caster, camber and toe adjustments.. THAT'S IT suspension wise...

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ght_138329.htm
    ive never seen a cobra be soo nimble! nice video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS3_KID View Post
    and the answer is..

    CORVETTE.

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    haha billy you never call me when youre in town so obviously im not that missed. yeah man it looks completely different now, Ill post some pics tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB View Post
    ive never seen a cobra be soo nimble! nice video!
    haha because they're not that guy probably spent a shit ton of money on suspencion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S II K View Post
    haha because they're not that guy probably spent a shit ton of money on suspencion.
    I guess you missed this part...

    Quote Originally Posted by SicStang03 View Post
    This car has the same springs as me and some caster, camber and toe adjustments.. THAT'S IT suspension wise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S II K View Post
    haha because they're not that guy probably spent a shit ton of money on suspencion.
    Please go to an autocross or road race and get back with us, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S II K View Post
    haha because they're not that guy probably spent a shit ton of money on suspencion.
    Pay attention bro..

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    that yellow one was nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Please go to an autocross or road race and get back with us, thanks.

    I have, and Ive done them with a few cobras, like i said before...not impressed AT ALL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S II K View Post
    I have, and Ive done them with a few cobras, like i said before...not impressed AT ALL!
    What region and what class were you racing in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S II K View Post
    haha because they're not that guy probably spent a shit ton of money on suspencion.

    Take your adderall and read his post again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög View Post
    Take your adderall and read his post again.
    I even pointed it out to him in post #164 but he is too stuck in his fan boy ways to realize it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB View Post
    u sure about this?

    the s2k will have a faster entry speed than the cobra

    the s2k will have have faster exit speed

    S2k's are known to be twitchy cars from the get go.

    Where are u all gettin these stats from..lol
    They aren't twitchy, they're completely neutral. Most cars have an understeer bias so people driving the S are unfamiliar with its' handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Wow, smart guy here...

    The S2000 will NOT have a higher exit speed, where do you get that from? It has no power. Have you seen a Cobra autocross? Yeah, no slouch there. I'm sure you think an S2K will beat a Corvette at autocross too.

    Go to a race, then talk, Gran Turismo isn't the truth.

    Eh? It can have a faster entry speed. And the only place the Cobra could have a faster exit speed would be from the acceleration from the apex to the end of the turn. We're talking a few mph here - maybe the Cobra could have the higher speed but it would be very close because the S has the faster entry and is a better handling car overall.

    Don't assume I'm some retard here, I never said anything about an S2000 being faster than a Corvette in autocross. That statement came out of NOWHERE lol. Just because I've owned an S2000, it does not mean that I'm a fanboy and think that it's the fastest car in the world. You're the one coming in here with all the aggression and making assumptions about people.

    Lay off the 'roids, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicStang03 View Post
    You've never ridden in a 03/04 cobra




    Most ignorant statement of this thread ... I realize everyone has an opinion but you are basing this off what you heard? At the strip, yes, it is a poor platform if you are running street tires... but still 31 spline axels that have gotten many people well into the 10's and even 9's... No handling advantages? lol on the skidpad the s2k wins by .04... the cobra pwns at high speed slalom... The 1 second the s2k might pull in a tight corner will be shut down 15ft later

    The poll is worded weird but the argument we had was that his car would beat mine at a track... stock for stock the cobra would still win... I would stop for lunch in the middle of the race and still win in my car :boobies:
    Just now replying to this, but I just wanted to say that what I said is hardly the most ignorant thing in the thread, as I was putting in "from what I heard" to show that everyhting I am saying IS in fact a guess. I am admitting to not knowing any of it for sure. And when I said "I see no handling advantages for the cobra" I was talking about in pure physics, weight, skidpad, wheelbase, etc. where I later added that the Cobra can house massive tires, so that is one major advantage.

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    If they are both stock, it depends on the course/track it's done at. If there's alot of tight turns and not alot of straight ways I would say the S2K. But if the track is more open and like 90 angle and straight turns and just some strong turns, not many; the cobra could def put a hurt on the s2k with even drivers.

    The issue here isn't the "muscle car's have shitty suspension" stuff, it basically comes done to weight and the drivers ability to throw and move that weight in the apex and out of the apex of the turns on the track, that and the gearing on the cars.

    I have seen many muscle cars like mustang's and camaros ripping it up on track and scca events so don't think because Honda says the s2k comes ready for track at the dealership doesn't always hold true in the hands of a real person, but sure on paper.

    A really good driver in the cobra and a normal Sunday driver in th s2k and even the smallest tightest course wont stop the good driver from coming around the bad in most cases on track and vice versa.


    If your looking for a track car, test drive them both and pick which you feel is better for you. If your talking about street wise. The poor f**king deer.

    My bet is on the cobra tho, even tho this question is pointless because we are not you, or the persons driving in this bench race. You have to decide which is best to you. This is like those, "WHATZ TEH MAX BOOOST I CANZ RUN ON MINES STOCK INTERNALS WITH 550CC INJECTRONS." The simple answer is every car/driver is different. Something you just got to figure out.

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    You guys are still talking about this. Even on a tight course a Cobra is going to walk all over a S2K.

    If someone wants to bring a stock S2K and a stock Cobra out to an event at little tally, Ill be happy to drive both of them and we can put this to bed.
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    I voted the s2k because i believe it would take the cobra around a track with mostly turns. If i were buying a car I would not even consider the S2K I would go straight to the cobra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller View Post
    You guys are still talking about this. Even on a tight course a Cobra is going to walk all over a S2K.

    This is truth..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller View Post
    You guys are still talking about this. Even on a tight course a Cobra is going to walk all over a S2K.

    If someone wants to bring a stock S2K and a stock Cobra out to an event at little tally, Ill be happy to drive both of them and we can put this to bed.
    Respect this, i'd be willing to do the same.
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    Tight Track= S2K
    Lengthy Track= Cobra

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoriDori View Post
    Tight Track= S2K
    Lengthy Track= Cobra
    idiot

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    The S2K would easily out handle the SVT Cobra stock for stock. As a matter of fact the S2K is in the A stock class in SCCA while the SVT Cobra is in F stock. Obviously the real racers say they dont handle anywhere near the S2K stock for stock. That being said, I have seen some mustangs with a little suspension work put down some serious g's. But then, thats not stock lol

    Heres some others in the F stock class with the Cobra(I thought this was funny)

    AMXJavelin V8 FSBMW5 series 6-cyl NOC6 series coupe8 series coupe (all)FS M5 ('00-'03)M5 ('88-'93) FSBuickRegal/Grand National, Turbo V6 FSCadillacCTS-V FSChevroletCamaro V8 NOCCorvette ('53-'62) FSChrysler300/300C ('04+) FSDatsun280 ZX Turbo FSDodgeMagnum SRT8Magnum, SRT-8Ram 1500 SRT10FS Stealth turbo FSFordMustang Mach 1 ('03+)Mustang SVT CobraMustang V8, NOCFS Thunderbird V8 & Supercharged V6 FSGMCSycloneTyphoon FSInfinitiG35 CoupeQ45 FSJaguarS-type (6-cyl)S-type RSedans, (12 cyl.)FS XJ-SXJ6 ('98+) FSLexus400GS400SC300FSLincolnLS V8 SedansMark VIII FSMercedesC36CLKE55 AMGFSMercuryCapri V-8Cougar V-8 & Supercharged V-6 FSMitsubishi3000 GT Turbo FSNissan300ZX turbo (pre-'90)300ZX, non-turbo ('90+) FSPontiacFirebird V8 NOCGTO ('04+)Trans-Am Turbo V-6FSShelbyGT350GT500 FSToyotaSupra Non-turbo ('93+)Supra Turbo ('86 1/2-'92) FSTriumphStag FSCatch-allV8 sedans, pick-ups, and sedan-derived convertibles NOC
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    two cars that are not even in the same class

    cobra>s2k
    TOO BIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidBikerBoy View Post
    The S2K would easily out handle the SVT Cobra stock for stock. As a matter of fact the S2K is in the A stock class in SCCA while the SVT Cobra is in F stock. Obviously the real racers say they dont handle anywhere near the S2K stock for stock. That being said, I have seen some mustangs with a little suspension work put down some serious g's. But then, thats not stock lol

    Heres some others in the F stock class with the Cobra(I thought this was funny)

    AMXJavelin V8 FSBMW5 series 6-cyl NOC6 series coupe8 series coupe (all)FS M5 ('00-'03)M5 ('88-'93) FSBuickRegal/Grand National, Turbo V6 FSCadillacCTS-V FSChevroletCamaro V8 NOCCorvette ('53-'62) FSChrysler300/300C ('04+) FSDatsun280 ZX Turbo FSDodgeMagnum SRT8Magnum, SRT-8Ram 1500 SRT10FS Stealth turbo FSFordMustang Mach 1 ('03+)Mustang SVT CobraMustang V8, NOCFS Thunderbird V8 & Supercharged V6 FSGMCSycloneTyphoon FSInfinitiG35 CoupeQ45 FSJaguarS-type (6-cyl)S-type RSedans, (12 cyl.)FS XJ-SXJ6 ('98+) FSLexus400GS400SC300FSLincolnLS V8 SedansMark VIII FSMercedesC36CLKE55 AMGFSMercuryCapri V-8Cougar V-8 & Supercharged V-6 FSMitsubishi3000 GT Turbo FSNissan300ZX turbo (pre-'90)300ZX, non-turbo ('90+) FSPontiacFirebird V8 NOCGTO ('04+)Trans-Am Turbo V-6FSShelbyGT350GT500 FSToyotaSupra Non-turbo ('93+)Supra Turbo ('86 1/2-'92) FSTriumphStag FSCatch-allV8 sedans, pick-ups, and sedan-derived convertibles NOC
    Autocross...compares to NOTHING in the automotive world lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Autocross...compares to NOTHING in the automotive world lol.
    But it does tell which car is more nimble and has better HANDLING. What is so hard to understand here?

    Give the S2000 equal power and it will RAPE the Cobra even on a road course. Or, take the supercharger off the Cobra and let it run like it's a GT. Again, the S2000 will DESTROY the Cobra. Why? Because the S2000 is the better handling car. The ONLY reason people are saying the Cobra will beat an S2000 is because it has 200 more horsepower. And this thread isn't about which car has more power or will post better times, it's about handling.

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    Of course stock for stock a S2K would beat a Cobra on a autocross course.

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    Can we get a poll to lock this thread? We are never going to agree on the outcome of this thread, and it just *won't* die. Moderators- preserve the sanctity of our forums and purge this mess!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by afwfjustin View Post
    But it does tell which car is more nimble and has better HANDLING. What is so hard to understand here?

    Give the S2000 equal power and it will RAPE the Cobra even on a road course. Or, take the supercharger off the Cobra and let it run like it's a GT. Again, the S2000 will DESTROY the Cobra. Why? Because the S2000 is the better handling car. The ONLY reason people are saying the Cobra will beat an S2000 is because it has 200 more horsepower. And this thread isn't about which car has more power or will post better times, it's about handling.

    I can't believe people are still talking about this.
    I don't think so, because the Cobra will still own it in the torque department. Also, the original question was which car would post better times around a track. The poll question was worded differently to be about handling. People are saying that a Cobra would win not only because of the huge power difference, but also the small handling difference between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    I don't think so, because the Cobra will still own it in the torque department. Also, the original question was which car would post better times around a track. The poll question was worded differently to be about handling. People are saying that a Cobra would win not only because of the huge power difference, but also the small handling difference between the two.
    You do realize you aren't actually disagreeing with Justin, right? You are actually saying the same thing he is saying, but explaining the opposite side of the coin.
    ... just thought you might need to know that.
    Bottom line- this poll sucks and the thread should be locked for the aforementioned reasons of being poorly worded and demonstratively argumentative.
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    any of you who voted cobra are idiots and have no road racing experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    any of you who voted cobra are idiots and have no road racing experience.
    Funny, I've been road racing since I was 5 in karts and have never quit, and I say Cobra AROUND a track.

    What road race experience do you have btw?

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    NASA racing since 26, PCA racing since 15, SCCA Solo 2 Racing since 14, HPDE Instructor for 3 years, Road Atlanta instructor for 2 years, need I continue? The cobra sucks compared to the s2k, these arent go karts kid, these are real cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    NASA racing since 26, PCA racing since 15, SCCA Solo 2 Racing since 14, HPDE Instructor for 3 years, Road Atlanta instructor for 2 years, need I continue? The cobra sucks compared to the s2k, these arent go karts kid, these are real cars.
    Yeah continue, I have to know you, I started NASA at 16, SCCA club at 16 (ITC), karting at 5, Solo 2 at 15, PCA, instructing, testing, etc. WTF is a Road Atlanta instructor?? I work there, what do you instruct? lol

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    Fuck yall ive been playing Gran Turismo since i was in the 7th grade, GT2 when i was 15, and GT3 when i was 17... and even played Sega GT on Dreamcast @ 17. And been playing forza since Day 1....

    and the S2k..never touched the cobra...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB View Post
    Fuck yall ive been playing Gran Turismo since i was in the 7th grade, GT2 when i was 15, and GT3 when i was 17... and even played Sega GT on Dreamcast @ 17. And been playing forza since Day 1....

    and the S2k..never touched the cobra...
    I ran Gran Turismo too, quit though, competition was too tough and it was too hard on my body. I had to stay WAYYY too fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    any of you who voted cobra are idiots and have no road racing experience.
    You don't want to play the pedigree game on here there are 4 or 5 people including myself that trump that little resume you just posted.

    While the S2k might pull more Gs on the skidpad it won't cut anywhere near the lap times a cobra will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    WTF is a Road Atlanta instructor?? I work there, what do you instruct? lol
    LOL thats funny, thats one of those bullshit lines I get from everyone who wants to be someone. I'm a Road Atlanta Instructor....
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    This was years ago, I instructed at RA for PCA. Before most of you were driving.

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    And this thread is 'what will handle better' not 'what pulls faster times' the s2000 will out handle the cobra. Period.

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