we need 2 stigs an s2k ,and a mustang !
we need 2 stigs an s2k ,and a mustang !
Handle, as in slalom speed, lateral grip, steering feel, neutral balance? S2000. Fastest around a track? Cobra, it has a huge power difference and its handling isn't bad,. But the question was "handle better", not "win in a race".
jeez y was this thread bumped
crap im guilty of it too now
I just can't believe this thread is still going.. I leave IA for couple months and I come back to this.. Rice boys comparing a s2k to a cobra! LOL IA is full of rice boys..
LOL, thats what I was thinking! you really cant even compare the two as far as power goes. that cobra is no joke, i dont know why alot of these honda fanboys be sleeping on that ish. cobra > s2k all day.Originally Posted by Frög
I would put my money on the cobra, I just sold my 04 cobra 8 months ago and they DO handle ALOT better than what people give them credit for. Plus the extra power it has over the s2k would just be to much for the s2k, and thats assuming that the cobra isnt pullied. Its hard to find a Terminator with the stock blower pulley now-a-days!
YAY!the thread is still going strong lol!
no more bumps till we get our own track proof
Depends on the track, and the length of the straights. In the turns the S2K should kill the cobra because of it's 50/50 weight distribution. We had a new Mustang GT at one of our S2000 track days, and it couldn't even hang with stock miatas. Not even close. I realize there is a little HP in the GT and Cobra, but HP is not everything. You have to think about HP to weight ratio.
weight distribution means nothing. and your new mustang GT driver was new to the car. you cant compare vehicles with different drivers. unless you compare the vehicle and the driver.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
Weight distribution means nothing? LMFAO WOW....
seeing as a s2k has a 50/50 and a 04 cobra has 53/47 and the new mustang has also 50/50. weight distribution is null in this argument.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
53/47 is not as close to 50/50 as it looks on paper. That said, cobra would win on most tracks.
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my G is 53/47 350z are 53/47. they handle just fine. many performance cars are slight nose heavy to help in braking and turning. and when they accelerate weight transfers to the rear getting it to the 50/50 that everyone craves.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I'm not saying that front-biased can't handle, but really most performance cars try to have 50/50 with even higher performance cars leaning more towards 40/60 ish. You just don't want too much weight on the front when diving in to a turn, unless you like understeering.
2007 PORSCHE 911 GT3: 38/62
Ferrari Enzo: 43.9/56.1
Pagani Zonda: 47/53
you get the idea
BTW where the hell you been man?
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lmao it means something definitely, but not absolutely everything. anyways still mustang cobra > weak ass s2k any day.
Blast from the past?
We know the Cobra is faster, we've decided that, only ricers think otherwise.
There are currently 132 idiots on this board
If you look at the majority of votes.... they all have some sort of Honda chassis code in their name lolololol
Cobra......
6spd Bugeye - lots of stuff.
04 Cobra - stage 4 ported Eaton, 2.76, Bassani, MAFia, Predator, Heat exchanger.
Indeed, Cobra all day everyday
This question is totally and entirely impossible to answer. An S2k will mongoose the Cobra around an AutoX track. The Cobra will smoke the S2k at Road Atlanta.
Dumb.
So you're saying when they are put to the test in REAL racing, the Cobra will win.
Awesome.
Cobra = IRS + control arms + strut/springs + full K-member and A-arms = one fucking hell of a corner carver!
Plus more power, better looks and cheaper insurance than a s2k.
Cobra.........
But on the one hand if the Cobra even Corbra R is such a dominating car why don't you see them do any time attack series?
cobra r is a purpose built track car. but on the same note where talking in general terms, if someone had $100-200k to build a track car, then yeah cobra and s2k are not even in the running!
Because domestics arent as marketable to the young tuner crowd. Not yet anyways. You still see Cobalts and other pocket racers, but generally speaking, the import crowds hate Mustangs even though they would dominate a lot of the actual events they compete in. In my opinion... what do I know though...
Time Attacks and Gymkhana's could see a rise in domestics though I think and it would be refreshing to see something other than the typical EVO/WRX/S2K's out there.
Yeah, I kind of put my foot in my mouth after that reply. And you are correct. there is a Redline TimeAttack muscle car series......but as you said not as advertised.
Muscle Car Class
1 Julian Mann Team Infidel Corvette 01:50.6
2 John Bender UTI Ford Mustang 01:56.0
Two different Classes but,
Unlimited RWD Class
1 Tyler McQuarrie C-West/Brian Crower Honda S2000 01:41.6
Street RWD Class
1 Igor Lyustin Driving Ambition Acura NSX 01:51.4
4 Robert Walker Evasive Motorsports Honda S2000 01:56.5
7 Robert Fuller Evolution Raceworks/RobiSpec BMW 135i 02:00.0
8 Jeff Tyler Berk Technology/KW Suspension BMW 135i 02:00.3
9 Sam Higashi Endless USA Nissan S15 Silvia 02:00.4
10 Pete Tenerillo Honda S2000 02:08.1
11 Joel Perez Honda S2000 02:08.9
Def. curious to see a built up Cobra do one of these events.
Found a ton of Mustang coverage on NASA though.
Mustang NASA
LOL......leaving track in Savanah...Cobra 1 S2000 0
Rolling out
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If you're serious about Mustang Road Racing... Griggs Racing and Agent 47 are the go to people. Whenever I have the money, Griggs will be building up my suspension.
That looks like an old Bondurant school car.Yeah, I kind of put my foot in my mouth after that reply. And you are correct. there is a Redline TimeAttack muscle car series......but as you said not as advertised.
Muscle Car Class
1 Julian Mann Team Infidel Corvette 01:50.6
2 John Bender UTI Ford Mustang 01:56.0
Two different Classes but,
Unlimited RWD Class
1 Tyler McQuarrie C-West/Brian Crower Honda S2000 01:41.6
Street RWD Class
1 Igor Lyustin Driving Ambition Acura NSX 01:51.4
4 Robert Walker Evasive Motorsports Honda S2000 01:56.5
7 Robert Fuller Evolution Raceworks/RobiSpec BMW 135i 02:00.0
8 Jeff Tyler Berk Technology/KW Suspension BMW 135i 02:00.3
9 Sam Higashi Endless USA Nissan S15 Silvia 02:00.4
10 Pete Tenerillo Honda S2000 02:08.1
11 Joel Perez Honda S2000 02:08.9
Def. curious to see a built up Cobra do one of these events.
Found a ton of Mustang coverage on NASA though.
Mustang NASA
LOL......leaving track in Savanah...Cobra 1 S2000 0
Rolling out
As for Mustangs in time attack, you don't see them because time attack is for ricers, time trials is the same thing but less JDM of a name, Mustangs run there as well as numerous road race classes. There are classes even FOR Mustangs.
The stupidity in this thread amazes me.
from my understanding, the price and rarity of the Cobra R kind of hamper it's trips to Time Attack series. The only Cobra R that I know the whereabouts of, it just sits in a garage... had a layer of dust on it last time I saw it.
I don't know how it all works but, a car tuner can buy a 40k+ NSX they can defenitely afford this. But, I agree with Nemesis about appealing to the younger tuner crowd.
"That looks like an old Bondurant school car. you don't see them because time attack is for ricers, The stupidity in this thread amazes me."
^
LOL, Just sayin!
"2000 SVT Cobra R Born for the RACE Track Attention Collectors, Car Enthusiast, and Investors-- COBRA R #252/291 sold to public out of a total of 300 made--Very RARE and HARD TO FIND"
point 2/2
Die thread die.
s2k are faster than vettes round the track
it should have died a long time ago, but people seem to want to interject their overstated opinions
Fuck, theres 149 people I need to negative rep.
Well I know I voted S2K, because it says which HANDLES better, the S2K is nimble, tiny, solid, it HANDLES better.
However I am on the Cobras side for anything else around a track or whatever else.
So is an MR2, but are you really telling me that you would have voted the same way if that were an option?
If what were an option? An MR2? MR2's can be a handful.
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