Bodykits: How much longer...

[afwfjustin]

I've hated body kits since I got into the scene back in 97.

Speed only

[EJ25RUN]

I've hated body kits since I got into the scene back in 97.

Speed only

did you see the "speed only" Buddy Club S2K i posted.

[afwfjustin]

did you see the "speed only" Buddy Club S2K i posted.

Yeah I've seen that kit - I live on s2ki so I've seen them all I really don't like that front end that much but the rest is ok. The best looking s2k kit is the INGS +1:



I don't like kits - and I especially don't like wings - but I'd rock that in a heartbeat (not the graphics/stickers though - you couldn't pay me enough to have graphics/stickers on my car)

[EJ25RUN]

Yeah I've seen that kit - I live on s2ki so I've seen them all I really don't like that front end that much but the rest is ok. The best looking s2k kit is the INGS +1:



I don't like kits - and I especially don't like wings - but I'd rock that in a heartbeat (not the graphics/stickers though - you couldn't pay me enough to have graphics/stickers on my car)

Wings = Functional

unless your about the clean look.

But then.......

what happened to Speed only?

[brandenj]

i say do what you wan to do but please have some speed to back it up

[afwfjustin]

Wings only function at high speeds, and do nothing on fwd cars.

If it's a track car it's cool, if it's a street car, sell the thing and use the money for gas.

[EJ25RUN]

Wings only function at high speeds, and do nothing on fwd cars.

If it's a track car it's cool, if it's a street car, sell the thing and use the money for gas.

why nothing on Fwd cars?
Why not on a street car?

Most of the stuff on your "street" s2k was proven on the track, so were wings.

Trust me, I have an STI so i know wings on the street

[afwfjustin]

Are you asking me to explain to prove that I know what wings do or because you want to know the answer?

Are you implying that a wing is going to be functional at 45mph? And how about 45mph on a fwd car?

[EJ25RUN]

Are you asking me to explain to prove that I know what wings do or because you want to know the answer?

Are you implying that a wing is going to be functional at 45mph? And how about 45mph on a fwd car?

No not needing you to prove anything to me.

i want you to explain what is really important to you....."speed only" or looks.

i hope that's your boosted car in the sig because it qualifies under "speed only", But there are things you probably wouldn't add to it even though you'd be faster. Granted if the stock look is what you like better, then that's fine but knocking a civic with a wing just cause you think it does nothing at 45mph is unjust.

Yellow Factory's eg runs 1.02 min laps at Tsukuba - what if you saw it on the street.


i guess i'm biased towards thinking about the track or mtn run. That's why i see nothing wrong with wings. I guess it's more about what you want out of your car.

A wing is functional at 45 mph.... it's adding weight to the vehicle.

Sex on wheels

[afwfjustin]

No not needing you to prove anything to me.

i want you to explain what is really important to you....."speed only" or looks.

i hope that's your boosted car in the sig because it qualifies under "speed only", But there are things you probably wouldn't add to it even though you'd be faster. Granted if the stock look is what you like better, then that's fine but knocking a civic with a wing just cause you think it does nothing at 45mph is unjust.

Yellow Factory's eg runs 1.02 min laps at Tsukuba - what if you saw it on the street.


i guess i'm biased towards thinking about the track or mtn run. That's why i see nothing wrong with wings. I guess it's more about what you want out of your car.

A wing is functional at 45 mph.... it's adding weight to the vehicle.

Sex on wheels

I think it's obvious that I'm about speed over looks. Yes that is my car in my signature. The only thing that makes my car look different than stock is the huge fmic, missing stock plastic grill (to provide more air flow to fmic), 17" SSR Competitions, Bilstein coilovers, and single 3" exhaust. Oh, I do have a single exhaust cap to cover the stock 2nd hole for the OEM dual exhaust that is no longer there. I also have JDM clear headlight diffusers and sidemarkers to replace the ugly amber on a red car. The rest of the car is factory.

What are you implying that I wouldn't add to the car that would make it faster? I rarely drive my car over 80mph so adding a wing is pointless.

That Civic is a highly tuned vehicle - are you really saying that some kid with an intake and heavy 18" cast wheels really needs a wing while cruising around town?

If a car really needs extra weight in the rear at 45 mph, then there are a lot cheaper ways to do so without having to spend several hundred (or 1000+) on a wing. 50 pound bags of sand are 3.00 from Home Depot

My car:

Sleeper style

[MistaCee]

I think it's obvious that I'm about speed over looks. Yes that is my car in my signature. The only thing that makes my car look different than stock is the huge fmic, missing stock plastic grill (to provide more air flow to fmic), 17" SSR Competitions, Bilstein coilovers, and single 3" exhaust. Oh, I do have a single exhaust cap to cover the stock 2nd hole for the OEM dual exhaust that is no longer there. I also have JDM clear headlight diffusers and sidemarkers to replace the ugly amber on a red car. The rest of the car is factory.

What are you implying that I wouldn't add to the car that would make it faster? I rarely drive my car over 80mph so adding a wing is pointless.

That Civic is a highly tuned vehicle - are you really saying that some kid with an intake and heavy 18" cast wheels really needs a wing while cruising around town?

If a car really needs extra weight in the rear at 45 mph, then there are a lot cheaper ways to do so without having to spend several hundred (or 1000+) on a wing. 50 pound bags of sand are 3.00 from Home Depot

My car:

Sleeper style

But you still replaced your ambers because the amber ones looked ugly and painted your brake calibers and you do have a wing on your car. That to me proves that almost every tuner is concerned about the looks of their car as well. BTW nice s2k

[afwfjustin]

It's not technically a wing - it's an OEM rear deck spoiler that came factory on the car.

I never said that I didn't care about the appearance of my car - I mean I don't want it to look trashed (why I don't have a body kit! ) which is why I did the subtle JDM amber deletes. I forgot about the calipers though - you caught me.

I also removed the black tape that is adhered to the frame around the windshield - I wanted to JDM body color look so I spent a few hours taking it off.

[turborodarry]

just lower the car on good rims all you need on the fc is a front lip the one on a 240sx works perfect thats what i have on mine.


reps please

[Deke]

just lower the car on good rims all you need on the fc is a front lip the one on a 240sx works perfect thats what i have on mine.


reps please

Lol, what...

[BobbyFresco]

reps please

Your wish is my command...REPS given...

[turborodarry]

the fron lip off of the 240 sx fits perfect on a fc3s. i was letting the other guy weith the rx know that

[BobbyFresco]

Lol, what...

Didn't you read what the man posted?

He wants REPS maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

[turborodarry]

I disagree. 7 years ago i hated the thoughts of the tuner scene. FWD, Neons, Stupid Kits, all that nonsense was all you saw. I had to actually go to the track and see CRXs without fenders, hoods, interiors, running #'s i couldn't in my 300zx. I also started to realize how well these cars can handle. It took those few that saw function over flash to bring me in. At the same time i've always seen that different cars can have respect for different reasons....that's why to add to the fast stuff, ive always liked lowriders, hot rods, street rods, classics, minitrucks, and off roaders.

But again... a crx with nothing but a nasty kit will never have taste in my book.




100% correct..... this JDM stuff has brainwashed kids to conform with what ever is going on. Coming to Varsity and seeing a guy build a Triumph Spitfire with an SVO 2.3L Turbo was such a breath of fresh air. All you see is civics and 240s all looking like they are falling apart and yet the owners talk sh!t about anyone who drives something different..... "shut the fuk up you tree wrapping drifter".

But i digress, again im tired of people thinking there is a list you have to follow when building a car. tired of it. Bodykits are an issue of personal taste...work for some, not for others. Me...well i like em on some cars....not on others. To many variables.

Let me give you an idea what i think using RX7 (i guess it's relevant)


I like (if you don't...... whatever)

all of this is hideous why would you do that toa car that already looks good? a crx will never have taste in my book. redneck ricer car...

[turborodarry]

IMHO, when it comes to body kits, I think it's dependent on what car you're talking about.....


The days of the Black Widow and all those other variation of kits have come and gone, thankfully.....

I think with Honda's that unless it's some sort of Jspec kit, it's just tacky and out of date....

As far as other imports, there are plenty of good looking kits that serve a purpose as well......


I think when it all comes down to it it's all about personal tastes but true tuners look at the whole picture and what I mean by that is that they use parts that are functional and not just because of the looks......

Function> Fashion.

did you type nething i dont see anything but black

[Killer]

imo... some body kits look incredible... some just don't....

i don't consider kits rice unless they just don't fit the car at all, and the car has a million decals on it and the inside/outside of the car has more flashing lights than a rave.....

we all have different views on what looks good and what doesn't.... and yes styles come and styles go.... but i think anyone with any actual sense of taste knows there is a limit to what you should put on a car...

[Stormhammer]

this is why when I bought an import, it was a uncommon car erased from the dealer parts database with factory widebodies

But I feel you. I was one of those guys who wanted to kit out a car and everything. Oddly enough the Starion saved me. Stock and lowered for me.

[bRiAnMcIvIcS]

I've never really liked body kits. Front and rear lips are good enough for me. I rather put a few grand into the motor and not the exterior.

[ahmonrah]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I can sit here and stare at your sig all day man!

you're insanely right!!
his siG

and PBSs' sig FTW!!

but back to topic......i've always liked kits according to what my taste was like. i was so indecisive, up to recently, about what i was going to put on my car, i didnt put a damn thang and just rolled with the dings til i made my mind up.....and i found one that suits my tastes and am saving up for it. but so long as someone COMPLETED the body work, or left the kit off their car till they were able to COMPLETE the bodywork i've been fine.

oh, and so long as it complemented the car well? i'm good. but then again, YOUR car isnt MY car, so everyone do whatever you like.

i've owned my 240 for 2 years now and bought it 'cause i've always like the S13(was a sophmore in HS, when i seen my first) and that's why i got it....then i noticed it was hugely popular....oh well...we all bought our cars hopefully because we like them, not to be fad-ish. I heard about drifting a 4+ years back when a friend of mine was stationed in japan, but my interest in it isnt huge....it sometimes irks me to hear "so are you gonna drift it?" my response, " i'd be interested in learning..." but i'd personally like to master my OVERALL driving skill, so i'm interested in all competitive driving forms...and i prolly won't go SR-rb-1jz-2jz.

[WHT_EP3]

alot of people here have very good response but like it was said in the beginin do to your car what ever is your desire not what other this is right cause then you will just be a quiff and people will laugh at you for being a quiff

[MistaCee]

It's not technically a wing - it's an OEM rear deck spoiler that came factory on the car.

I never said that I didn't care about the appearance of my car - I mean I don't want it to look trashed (why I don't have a body kit! ) which is why I did the subtle JDM amber deletes. I forgot about the calipers though - you caught me.

I also removed the black tape that is adhered to the frame around the windshield - I wanted to JDM body color look so I spent a few hours taking it off.

Haha true true. You do need a lip though

[DinanM3atl]

It's true, how you gonna hate on body kits and wings when carbon fiber is the same ****. At least if you track your car the wings and spoilers help somewhat. Carbon fiber is just as useless and perhaps even more ostentatious than a wing and body kit.

Don't think I'm hatin on nobody. You do your own thing but don't try to justify your carbon fiber as a performance product. It is for show and show only (unless it is a PRO race car)

Also note that I didn't post in that thread after the first page. I just like to hear people's opinions.

Just wondering if weight savings that equal better performance, better cornering and better gas mileage do not benefit a "street car". Just wondering.

Georgia's scene gotten boring. Just like someone said, everyone is so worried about what other's think they don't want to be original and rather jump the bandwagon to fit in. "Time Attacks" for example.

That was played out in about 2 weeks. One person did it and then every forum everywhere people were spray painting their wheels and puttin on a stripe...

i agree with the whole bodykit thing, its getting boring because everyone is riding around in the same looking stock ass car, and personally i wouldnt go JDM.. im getting into EUROTUNERS.. f.ucking BMW & AUDI , some badass cars if you know what you want to do with it and make it look real clean.

Welcome to the dark side!

Wings only function at high speeds, and do nothing on fwd cars.

If it's a track car it's cool, if it's a street car, sell the thing and use the money for gas.

Wrong. They do something, they keep the rear end on the ground. Under braking you don't think it is good to have both the front of rear pushing down? You want aero front and rear, regardless of the drivetrain layout... Should a RWD car not need a front lip?

But you still replaced your ambers because the amber ones looked ugly and painted your brake calibers and you do have a wing on your car. That to me proves that almost every tuner is concerned about the looks of their car as well. BTW nice s2k

Technically he has a "spoiler". Just saying

[JDMjoe]

Clean body kits look good on fc im not hatin' just kills me when people put body kits on hondas... unless its mugen

[EJ25RUN]

Clean body kits look good on fc im not hatin' just kills me when people put body kits on hondas... unless its mugen

Whatever all these houses make great kits for Hondas.

Backyard Special
AirWalkerJp
BuddyClub
TopFuel Jp
Many more....

P.S. some off Mugen's stuff looks like Sh!t.

[EJ25RUN]

bodykits are gay

[JDMjoe]

Whatever all these houses make great kits for Hondas.

Backyard Special
AirWalkerJp
BuddyClub
TopFuel Jp
Many more....

P.S. some off Mugen's stuff looks like Sh!t.

Yeah i didn't even think about backyard, and buddy club is "ok" Backyard is stupid expensive. Mugen styling isn't for everyone but i like it...

[redciv1]

The import scene is what it is because of what "WE" made it to be. It's weird how everyone tried to separate themselves from The Fast and the Furious. And anything with a "kit" and graphics all of a sudden became rice. I'm sorry but I grew up in the mid to late eighties when there were not many "kits" around. I get tired of looking at Civic, Integras, 240's and every other import lowered and wheels/tires. I mean come on, what happened to originality and individuality. Now too many of the young crowd calls everything "rice." I can't stand that. We are the only one's that can change the scene. What's funny is how the JDM style is not the "style" in Japan. Ever seen some of the vans over in Japan? Huge wings and outrageous bodykits. I wish this whole kiddie "rice" thing would stop. Bodykits, long live.

[josh green]

this car is so sick, I believe its a NA 4 rotor correct?

[speedminded]

I've hated body kits since I got into the scene back in 97.

Speed only

How can you have speed if you don't have the proper down force for the car or a way to cool your brakes? Especially if they are stock.

...but what it comes down to is a stock body car with a superior suspension & brake setup will still run circles around a car with the best aerodynamics but stock or ****ty suspension and brakes.

Wider bodies enable you to put wider wheels on, whether wider wheels & tires will make a car faster or handle better solely depends on the application. It is however normally more aggressive looking and more aesthetically pleasing with wider wheels and tires.

[speedminded]

What's my "body kit" classified as?

[speedminded]

Here's a wide body kit from a small company in california: hand laid front fenders, rear flares, sideskirts, and bumper for an FC. Other than the functional louvers on the hood that seem a bit too obtrusive, the car flows extremely well...tell me with a solid color paint scheme (no graphics) it wouldn't be one of the sexiest FC's on the street.

[JDMjoe]

Thats not a bad bodykit for a fc, to certain degree it is function too.

[CelicaGT00]

What's my "body kit" classified as?

thats a clean integra...i like it a lot!

[RUFFIAN]

The thing that I can't understand is that the"real JDM" guys as in over in Japan, are the ones who have already had the insane kits and paint and everything else. I get tired of the Sheep-like way people wander from trend to trend all the while praying that no one calls them out for being different. Grow some ball and STFU with all of the "ME too" convo's Whats wrong with just being yourself? if you like a kit, roll with it. You like em O.G. Original, there aint nothing wrong with that either.Live and let Live! ....................

[killerdx]

i agree^ I miss going to the car shows(local, or nopi) and seeing different things. I mean yea some times i do see a car with a kit and say it looks but thats because it wasnt done right. I hope that people can get back to doing there own thing for what they think looks good, i mean why else would u put so much money into a car, b/c i hope its not to impress someone u dont even know.Tha main thing is, is that everyone needs to quit hatin, if u got something neg. to say keep it to yourself.

[MistaCee]

The thing that I can't understand is that the"real JDM" guys as in over in Japan, are the ones who have already had the insane kits and paint and everything else. I get tired of the Sheep-like way people wander from trend to trend all the while praying that no one calls them out for being different. Grow some ball and STFU with all of the "ME too" convo's Whats wrong with just being yourself? if you like a kit, roll with it. You like em O.G. Original, there aint nothing wrong with that either.Live and let Live! ....................

Exactly do what you want to do to your car and not what the current car scene says is hot