its not that the vtec kick bothers me. cause ive never actully driven a car that has vtec thats stock. . . i just dont like the way it kicks in with high power apps. and plus that what i was looking at was that a DA GSR has 160. . . so im thinking that with trans work. suspention and mild tuning i should be fine sense alot of the stuff i go and play on you cant eve get out of 3 gear on. but then at the same time i still want to be able to ride around town in 5th with out being at 4 grand. lol [exaduration, i know thats not likely in any form.] and as far as driving school, i think my driving is par for the time being.