2008 S2000 CR....HUMMMM?!?!?!

[admedlin]

lol all the arguing and the last comment is that the seats look comfy!! nice



haha I love my S, but I don't track it. there's no point really. Its an awesome handling car, its quick, but it is still a Honda with no torque. I bought mine for looks and to have a fun ride, not for tracking. The new CR is a little quicker than mine, but only because it weighs a little less and is more aerodynamic.

I know nothing about racing, but I know that although my car is quick, the STi, EVO, and a lot of other cars should easily beat it. trying to compare a 240hp/165tq 2900 pound car to a 300hp/300tq 3000 pound car is retarded. 200 pounds isn't going to make so much of a difference really.

I'd like to sit here and say HONDA FTMFW, but I know that isn't going to happen unless the S was turbo. If you were to race the CR vs. most n/a 4cyl, the CR would definitely have more of a chance. But comparing a n/a convertible with a turbo awd STi just doesn't really make sense.

Looking at the price, the Honda is more expensive than the other ones. Is anyone surprised? Plus like someone else said, its like a $3,000 premium to get the CR over a base S2K. How much is the Nismo over the base 350? I'm sure this will definitely be a good selling car, just because it is a Honda and people know the reliability. It may not be THE quickest car for the price, but it will be a fun ride!

[TypeRPersonality]

^ Well said. It may not be fast, but it sure as hell will sell.

[Julio]

lol.When this car is ready to sell it will be over 40K.
other better cars out there for that car.

But you know, some s2k drivers thing they have the ultimate machine "HIGH CLASS" verhicle... hahahahha

I mean you can pick up a S for 15 K now a days.. drop 10K into it and have a better track car then that and be way under budget... lol

[Julio]

i still think the Miata is the standard for the roadster market,and i think they still do it the best

I would still pick the S.. the miata is one ugly little car.

[Julio]

I just thought about it... Why would honda add more horses to the new accord and not the S?

When are they planning on raising the ponnies on the S anyways?

[man]

lol all the arguing and the last comment is that the seats look comfy!! nice



haha I love my S, but I don't track it. there's no point really. Its an awesome handling car, its quick, but it is still a Honda with no torque. I bought mine for looks and to have a fun ride, not for tracking. The new CR is a little quicker than mine, but only because it weighs a little less and is more aerodynamic.

I know nothing about racing, but I know that although my car is quick, the STi, EVO, and a lot of other cars should easily beat it. trying to compare a 240hp/165tq 2900 pound car to a 300hp/300tq 3000 pound car is retarded. 200 pounds isn't going to make so much of a difference really.

I'd like to sit here and say HONDA FTMFW, but I know that isn't going to happen unless the S was turbo. If you were to race the CR vs. most n/a 4cyl, the CR would definitely have more of a chance. But comparing a n/a convertible with a turbo awd STi just doesn't really make sense.

Looking at the price, the Honda is more expensive than the other ones. Is anyone surprised? Plus like someone else said, its like a $3,000 premium to get the CR over a base S2K. How much is the Nismo over the base 350? I'm sure this will definitely be a good selling car, just because it is a Honda and people know the reliability. It may not be THE quickest car for the price, but it will be a fun ride!

Well said. Also, the fact that you don't track you S is not a rarity, with any car. This is why I never understood the people who brag about which car is faster on the Nurburgring or Tsukuba etc... The fact is, only a small percentage of people who buy those cars actually track them. TRACK TIMES ONLY MEAN SOMETHING WHEN YOU ACTUALLY TRACK YOUR CAR! Something that people on IA don't seem to understand.

You get reps, sir.

[sprix!]

I dont go to tracks often, but when im there, its rare to see an S2K

I mean hell the last S2K Track day only had like 20 cars there. How many were at Club Wars (Scooby event)

WRX STi ($32,995)
300hp 2.5L, 300TQ
AWD-Active Center DIfferential
Brembo Brakes
2.5L 4cylinder with 300hp
17 x 8" BBS alloys
6spd manual transmission
Short Throw Shifter
Quick ratio steering
Driver Controlled Center Differential DCCD
Summer Directional tires (you'll want to get winter or rain tires)
Limited Slip front differential
Super Sport ABS
HID headlights (low beam)
Rev indicator/alarm
Sport suspension with inverted struts

S2000
MSRP: $34,250
2.2L I4
237HP 162TQ
Its got no special brakes
coil springs anti roll bar

Whats so special about the S2000? how is the STI and EVO not considered in the same class? they are the same price range, similar power levels.

I mean, if you want to say that the STI an EVO are Sedans, then lets compare the S2000 to the 350Z? Well great, the 350Z is a heap of crap too.

WHat else is there? Solstice? GTO? Mustang?

Again, my point is if your looking for a $30,000+ car to "RACE" with ,the S2000 is LAST on your list IMHO. especially this new one, thats MORE expensive an barely has the equipment the EVO and the STI come with STANDARD.

I actaully like S2000s, but i would never pay more than $10,000 for one when they get that cheap ill pick one up for a sat night cruiser, but thats about it. They look sharp, but they are not the car everyone makes them out to be.

I am loving this thread, and many of the responses. I will make every effort to keep my comments relevant to the discussion of the CR and not address some of the other stuff I see. I don't understand what you are saying though... why pick out a list of options that the STi has and then act like the CR has nothing special? It has lots of exclusive features. Granted, they won't be as numerous as when you compare the base Impreza to the STi because the standard S2000 has so many features standard.
Some of you aren't impressed with the CR, but I can bet that most of those are the same people that don't like the standard S2000 to begin with. There are always cars that are faster, and always cars that are slower. The S2000 CR is not the car to end all cars, and I don't think Honda is claiming that it is. It is a special edition car; a gift to a retiring Honda R&D engineer who had a hand in the creation of both the NSX and S2000. It is quicker around the track than the standard S2000, and that was the benchmark. No one is going to purchase a CR and go to the track with aspirations of taking out a Porsche GT3 or anything.
As far as the price, I think it is fair when you compare it to the standard S2000. After adding (to a base S2000) OEM lip, spoiler, special badging, stiffer springs, hardtop, stiffer stabilizer bars, etc, the price will exceed that of the CR. Of course, if you believe (like so many) that the car is overpriced to begin with, the car will have even less appeal. Some people who actually like the S2000 will appreciate the exclusiveness of a limited production car will go out and get it.
I find it interesting that both the Nismo Z and S2000 CR go without power upgrades though. I certainly would have preferred a boost in power over some of the arguably fancy bodywork.
Would I drive one? In Grand Prix White- possibly. Am I going to trade my car in for one?
I say different strokes for different folks. Thank goodness we are not the same and all driving Black Ford model Ts, right?
Oh yes, to the person who said that the Nismo Z does everything so much better than the S2000 CR- check this link out:S2000 CR & Nismo Z Road & Track tested both and scored the CR higher in a few categories. Specifically, the driver noted braking and handling on the CR were more precise than that of the Z (I brought this up because you said the Z braked better)- so don't put it down just yet.
And for the person who said that S2000 owners think that their cars are so great- don't you think your car is great? Cars are like kids... yours are always the best.

[sprix!]

I just thought about it... Why would honda add more horses to the new accord and not the S?

When are they planning on raising the ponnies on the S anyways?

I don't trust the rumor mills, but my instincts tell me that S2000 production will likely end with the 2008 or 2009 model. Probably with the '09, because Honda has always done S2000 changes every 2 years.
I agree though, the Accord does outpower the S2000 and that is silly.