H22 or B20?

**SL65AMG** · 10-19-2007, 01:30 AM

what would be the best motor N/a? all using relatively the same parts

11.5:1 C/r pistons
sleeved block
fully built head

same **** in both pretty much, which would build more power?

im guessing the h22

**SL65AMG** · 10-19-2007, 01:51 AM

2 votes and no one cares to explain their reasoning?

**fucksohc** · 10-19-2007, 12:04 PM

H22>B20...

**SL65AMG** · 10-19-2007, 12:25 PM

h22 is vtec right? some are some arent?

**.blank cd** · 10-19-2007, 12:25 PM

Depends on what car you're putting it in, and since B20 is an option with H22, im guessing this is going in a 3rd gen prelude. Im also guessing that you're talking about a B20A(5) from said prelude. And if this is going into a 3rd gen, My experience has told me to go with the B20. The H22 doesnt fit as well and takes a lot of fabrication to do so. Both motors have FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves, so unless you're gonna be boosting said car, you dont need sleeves (as long as you plan on keeping up with oil changes) A friend of mine with a slightly modded 3rd gen SI 4WS used to walk 4th and 5th gens all day. talk to OaTmeaL on here, i'll say he might be the prelude guru on this site

**SL65AMG** · 10-19-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by blank cd

Depends on what car you're putting it in, and since B20 is an option with H22, im guessing this is going in a 3rd gen prelude. Im also guessing that you're talking about a B20A(5) from said prelude. And if this is going into a 3rd gen, My experience has told me to go with the B20. The H22 doesnt fit as well and takes a lot of fabrication to do so. Both motors have FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves, so unless you're gonna be boosting said car, you dont need sleeves (as long as you plan on keeping up with oil changes) A friend of mine with a slightly modded 3rd gen SI 4WS used to walk 4th and 5th gens all day. talk to OaTmeaL on here, i'll say he might be the prelude guru on this site

CRX, swap, race car

**.blank cd** · 10-19-2007, 12:26 PM

All H22's are VTEC, H23's are non vtec

**xlilvi3tx** · 10-19-2007, 01:45 PM

imo b20 vtec would make more power but it just the fact that it isnt as reliable as just doin a straight swap with a h22 since u throwin a vtec head on a block from a suv

**-S Double C-** · 10-19-2007, 02:26 PM

^^^^^haha...the h22 would make more or just as much torque then the b20 vtec would horsepower...Go with the h22 you wont be disappointed!

**-S Double C-** · 10-19-2007, 02:29 PM

also dont waste your money on sleeves for the h22 if your staying N/A. Get some eagle rods,type s pistons and a nice set of cams and some bolts ons and go make 230whp or more. Also go H2B and run 11's.

**HatchHero** · 11-13-2007, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by SpoolNSlide

also dont waste your money on sleeves for the h22 if your staying N/A. Get some eagle rods,type s pistons and a nice set of cams and some bolts ons and go make 230whp or more. Also go H2B and run 11's.

i like this guy

**-S Double C-** · 11-20-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by HatchHero

i like this guy

YAY I GOT A FAN!...lol

**allmotoronly** · 11-19-2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by SpoolNSlide

also dont waste your money on sleeves for the h22 if your staying N/A. Get some eagle rods,type s pistons and a nice set of cams and some bolts ons and go make 230whp or more. Also go H2B and run 11's.

good luck getting 230+whp with that setup, unless you are using some ungodly cams. I had a setup similar to this (Type S swap, JUN cams, mugen header, euro R intake, chipped ecu, etc.) and I made about 220whp or so. To get over 230whp, you will need even higher C/R pistons, hotter cams, and maybe ITB's.

**HatchHero** · 11-20-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by allmotoronly

good luck getting 230+whp with that setup, unless you are using some ungodly cams. I had a setup similar to this (Type S swap, JUN cams, mugen header, euro R intake, chipped ecu, etc.) and I made about 220whp or so. To get over 230whp, you will need even higher C/R pistons, hotter cams, and maybe ITB's.

true!! but it can be done!!

**-S Double C-** · 11-20-2007, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by allmotoronly

good luck getting 230+whp with that setup, unless you are using some ungodly cams. I had a setup similar to this (Type S swap, JUN cams, mugen header, euro R intake, chipped ecu, etc.) and I made about 220whp or so. To get over 230whp, you will need even higher C/R pistons, hotter cams, and maybe ITB's.

exactly a mugen header that was a WASTE OF YOUR MONEY! And JUN cams that was a waste of money. You could have upgraded to a camp1320 or RMF alone and gained 10-15+whp more. Dont tell me it cant be done im the king of h22's. I was the first and only one in georgia to do a h22 H2B setup and there was only 3 people in the south who had the swap including me. Do i need to pull up a post where a guy made 250+ on BLOX stage 2 cams in a STOCK untouched head? and a FULL OEM bottom end?

And it's still running now strong as the day it was crunk up.

**xlilvi3tx** · 10-19-2007, 06:39 PM

i was plannin to go b20vtec a while back but i decided to go h22 real soon a couple of my friend ran b20vtec n they always be having problems with it

**-S Double C-** · 10-19-2007, 06:50 PM

yeah most every b20/vtec setup i seen has problems

**bigdare23** · 10-19-2007, 06:54 PM

A real motor is "better" than a hybrid motor!

**ash7** · 10-19-2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by bigdare23

A real motor is "better" than a hybrid motor!

*sigh* you just lost brownie points

hybrid motors ftmfw

...if this H22 engine is going into a race car... what type of racing are you doing? I hope it's the drag strip and not HPDE, understeer = the suck.

-jonathan

**bigdare23** · 10-22-2007, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by CRXseven

*sigh* you just lost brownie points

hybrid motors ftmfw

...if this H22 engine is going into a race car... what type of racing are you doing? I hope it's the drag strip and not HPDE, understeer = the suck.

-jonathan

I love the frankie, but I would rather have a real motor that a motor with parts that doesn't belong together.

Sean if this is for you rex a b20 is better because of the amount of work you have to do to get it to work.

**SL65AMG** · 10-22-2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by bigdare23

I love the frankie, but I would rather have a real motor that a motor with parts that doesn't belong together.

Sean if this is for you rex a b20 is better because of the amount of work you have to do to get it to work.

naw not for my rex. i have thought about it though but if i wanna put a motor in my rex itll be a b20

this is for the track car. i think its gonna be an EK hatch

**khailon** · 10-19-2007, 07:01 PM

h22 ftw

**southside** · 10-19-2007, 07:09 PM

its gone be pretty hard dropping a h22 in a crx dont you have to use hood props so you can clear the valve cover and you have to modify the fire wall and cut the subframe i believe but it would be scary fast if the h22 is rebuilt with otha lil things like pistons and stuff

**southside** · 10-19-2007, 07:12 PM

oh and dont forget the hydro tranny conversion kit cuz i dont think they have h series cable trannys

**ash7** · 10-19-2007, 07:41 PM

cable shifting, hydro clutch

-jonathan

**Papa_Smurf** · 10-20-2007, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by CRXseven

cable shifting, hydro clutch

-jonathan

how did i know you were gonna be in this thread?

lol

**white_rice** · 10-19-2007, 10:16 PM

although i got a b20 h22 is better =[

**.blank cd** · 10-19-2007, 11:50 PM

so were talking about a crv B20

**hondaxpurt** · 11-07-2007, 10:22 PM

gonna get more tq out of the h22

**ash7** · 10-20-2007, 01:53 AM

lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

**Papa_Smurf** · 10-20-2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by CRXseven

lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

I say H22 just to spite you!

**-S Double C-** · 10-21-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by CRXseven

lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

John GTFO you know nothing!!! HAHa J/K

**Crazy Asian** · 10-20-2007, 03:57 AM

if you can save your money and splurge your money on a K20. Much better faster and what not. But if you want to do it right now H22. More available parts and options. And faster too.

**SL65AMG** · 10-20-2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Crazy Asian

if you can save your money and splurge your money on a K20. Much better faster and what not. But if you want to do it right now H22. More available parts and options. And faster too.

what kind of power can you get out of a built k series? and how much does it weigh..... if you get more power for less weight its a good deal i guess. but if you get more power and 100 extra lbs of motor its just not worth it

**Thundercat** · 10-20-2007, 09:13 AM

b20 FTW .....all motor monster...and u have a perfect rod/stroke ratio

**b17a1db2** · 10-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Thundercat

b20 FTW .....all motor monster...and u have a perfect rod/stroke ratio

nope, not a perfect rod/stoke ratio.. the b16 is the closest to that...

**Crazy Asian** · 10-20-2007, 02:16 PM

Im not sure the power but I do know it's on tall as engine in the CRX so your gonna have to cut the hood or buy a SiR hood. But it's fast I dont remember where I Seen it but i took like 3rd in a Time Attack.

**GermanMuscle** · 10-21-2007, 12:48 PM

B20: can make decent power with a vtec head. but you have better tranny options

H22: great power only, but the trans isnt the greatest.

Solution: H2B FTW!!!!!!!

**JDMjoe** · 10-21-2007, 05:08 PM

B18c b/c high reving not so much a torque monster though as a h22. I believe the b18 is a couple 100 pounds lighter too. H22 are for the drag strip.

**SL65AMG** · 10-21-2007, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by JDMjoe86

B18c b/c high reving not so much a torque monster though as a h22. I believe the b18 is a couple 100 pounds lighter too. H22 are for the drag strip.

thats what the car is for.... 90% of the time..... i may take it out on weekends

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