H22 or B20?

[SL65AMG]

what would be the best motor N/a? all using relatively the same parts

11.5:1 C/r pistons
sleeved block
fully built head

same **** in both pretty much, which would build more power?

im guessing the h22

[SL65AMG]

2 votes and no one cares to explain their reasoning?

[fucksohc]

H22>B20...

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Depends on what car you're putting it in, and since B20 is an option with H22, im guessing this is going in a 3rd gen prelude. Im also guessing that you're talking about a B20A(5) from said prelude. And if this is going into a 3rd gen, My experience has told me to go with the B20. The H22 doesnt fit as well and takes a lot of fabrication to do so. Both motors have FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves, so unless you're gonna be boosting said car, you dont need sleeves (as long as you plan on keeping up with oil changes) A friend of mine with a slightly modded 3rd gen SI 4WS used to walk 4th and 5th gens all day. talk to OaTmeaL on here, i'll say he might be the prelude guru on this site

[SL65AMG]

h22 is vtec right? some are some arent?

[SL65AMG]

Depends on what car you're putting it in, and since B20 is an option with H22, im guessing this is going in a 3rd gen prelude. Im also guessing that you're talking about a B20A(5) from said prelude. And if this is going into a 3rd gen, My experience has told me to go with the B20. The H22 doesnt fit as well and takes a lot of fabrication to do so. Both motors have FRM (fiber reinforced metal) sleeves, so unless you're gonna be boosting said car, you dont need sleeves (as long as you plan on keeping up with oil changes) A friend of mine with a slightly modded 3rd gen SI 4WS used to walk 4th and 5th gens all day. talk to OaTmeaL on here, i'll say he might be the prelude guru on this site

CRX, swap, race car

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All H22's are VTEC, H23's are non vtec

[xlilvi3tx]

imo b20 vtec would make more power but it just the fact that it isnt as reliable as just doin a straight swap with a h22 since u throwin a vtec head on a block from a suv

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^^^^^haha...the h22 would make more or just as much torque then the b20 vtec would horsepower...Go with the h22 you wont be disappointed!

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also dont waste your money on sleeves for the h22 if your staying N/A. Get some eagle rods,type s pistons and a nice set of cams and some bolts ons and go make 230whp or more. Also go H2B and run 11's.

[xlilvi3tx]

i was plannin to go b20vtec a while back but i decided to go h22 real soon a couple of my friend ran b20vtec n they always be having problems with it

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yeah most every b20/vtec setup i seen has problems

[bigdare23]

A real motor is "better" than a hybrid motor!

[khailon]

h22 ftw

[southside]

its gone be pretty hard dropping a h22 in a crx dont you have to use hood props so you can clear the valve cover and you have to modify the fire wall and cut the subframe i believe but it would be scary fast if the h22 is rebuilt with otha lil things like pistons and stuff

[ash7]

A real motor is "better" than a hybrid motor!

*sigh* you just lost brownie points

hybrid motors ftmfw

...if this H22 engine is going into a race car... what type of racing are you doing? I hope it's the drag strip and not HPDE, understeer = the suck.

-jonathan

[southside]

oh and dont forget the hydro tranny conversion kit cuz i dont think they have h series cable trannys

[ash7]

cable shifting, hydro clutch

-jonathan

[white_rice]

although i got a b20 h22 is better =[

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so were talking about a crv B20

[Papa_Smurf]

cable shifting, hydro clutch

-jonathan

how did i know you were gonna be in this thread?

lol

[ash7]

lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

[Crazy Asian]

if you can save your money and splurge your money on a K20. Much better faster and what not. But if you want to do it right now H22. More available parts and options. And faster too.

[Thundercat]

b20 FTW .....all motor monster...and u have a perfect rod/stroke ratio

[SL65AMG]

if you can save your money and splurge your money on a K20. Much better faster and what not. But if you want to do it right now H22. More available parts and options. And faster too.

what kind of power can you get out of a built k series? and how much does it weigh..... if you get more power for less weight its a good deal i guess. but if you get more power and 100 extra lbs of motor its just not worth it

[Papa_Smurf]

lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

I say H22 just to spite you!

[Crazy Asian]

Im not sure the power but I do know it's on tall as engine in the CRX so your gonna have to cut the hood or buy a SiR hood. But it's fast I dont remember where I Seen it but i took like 3rd in a Time Attack.

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lol, what can i say?

guilty as charged
-jonathan

John GTFO you know nothing!!! HAHa J/K

[GermanMuscle]

B20: can make decent power with a vtec head. but you have better tranny options

H22: great power only, but the trans isnt the greatest.

Solution: H2B FTW!!!!!!!

[b17a1db2]

b20 FTW .....all motor monster...and u have a perfect rod/stroke ratio

nope, not a perfect rod/stoke ratio.. the b16 is the closest to that...

[JDMjoe]

B18c b/c high reving not so much a torque monster though as a h22. I believe the b18 is a couple 100 pounds lighter too. H22 are for the drag strip.

[SL65AMG]

B18c b/c high reving not so much a torque monster though as a h22. I believe the b18 is a couple 100 pounds lighter too. H22 are for the drag strip.

thats what the car is for.... 90% of the time..... i may take it out on weekends

[bigdare23]

*sigh* you just lost brownie points

hybrid motors ftmfw

...if this H22 engine is going into a race car... what type of racing are you doing? I hope it's the drag strip and not HPDE, understeer = the suck.

-jonathan

I love the frankie, but I would rather have a real motor that a motor with parts that doesn't belong together.

Sean if this is for you rex a b20 is better because of the amount of work you have to do to get it to work.

[SL65AMG]

I love the frankie, but I would rather have a real motor that a motor with parts that doesn't belong together.

Sean if this is for you rex a b20 is better because of the amount of work you have to do to get it to work.

naw not for my rex. i have thought about it though but if i wanna put a motor in my rex itll be a b20

this is for the track car. i think its gonna be an EK hatch

[allmotoronly]

F20B!!! It is virtually the same engine as the jdm H22A type S with steel sleeves, slightly smaller pistons and a shorter stroke. Short stroke=high RPM's. The stroke is 88mm, which is shorter than the B20 as well. It is almost as short as the B18C5, which is 87.2. I say get a F20B, get it sleeved if you want, and use 87mm H22A sized pistons instead of the stock size 85mm, and you will have an engine that has a higher displacement than the B20 (should be about 2050cc's, or roughly 2.1L), but a shorter stroke. It should have no problem turning 9k+ RPM.

[v8killacivic]

h22 all the way...

[turboSOHC]

imma have to say h22A.....
i say that because a relative of mines have one in a 93cx HATCHBACK bone stock and he raced 2 K-serie's swap and took both of them out like nothing!!!! "not to be braggin" but then from my experience at first hand......
one was and 95 DC teg wid k20 rsx swap and the other was an EP3 wid a jdm k20a swap.....
so i would say H22A

[TicketRedBB6]

If it's strictly for the track i'd say h22. It already has more hp, and there are plenty of parts to add on more.

[allmotoronly]

F20B!!! It is virtually the same engine as the jdm H22A type S with steel sleeves, slightly smaller pistons and a shorter stroke. Short stroke=high RPM's. The stroke is 88mm, which is shorter than the B20 as well. It is almost as short as the B18C5, which is 87.2. I say get a F20B, get it sleeved if you want, and use 87mm H22A sized pistons instead of the stock size 85mm, and you will have an engine that has a higher displacement than the B20 (should be about 2050cc's, or roughly 2.1L), but a shorter stroke. It should have no problem turning 9k+ RPM.

I guess nobody read this....

[chituntang]

H22A is still the most powerful Honda 4 banger, not matter from stock, mild to extreme mods. Torque just makes the different. And I do not think 100lbs extra weight will make a CRX "fat."