So called *JDM*

[MongolPup]

Yeah I think clean and JDM are both kinda subjective. Just because certain parts are from Japan doesn't mean anything; lol the companies had to based somewhere didn't they? Now certain parts are rare; say some Spoon parts or anything that is very very hard to get to the states.

I think if your saying something is JDM and you mean it literally, then your just saying its something from the Japanese Domestic Market; aka if you had a actual S15 conversion on your 240, you would indeed have some JDM parts (parts off a Japanese version of car).

"Clean" is more of a tricky term. A rice ass Civic can have a uniform paint color and be well taken car of; but then do the Z3 style fenders and Supra style wing become okay? Personally I think clean is when the aftermarket modifications of the vehicle still follow it's original lines and enhances the appearance of the car rather then change it; I mean that in the way of lips and stuff instead of bumpers etc etc. Now certainly the car company and their performance divisions do sometimes release full kits or radical body modification (See: TRD 3000GT), but normally think about how much time the designers of a car spend on the lines of the car compared to a aftermarket body company that uses the same guys to put parts on HUNDREDS of cars; what does it say that a lot of this products look alike on many cars? Some of that is alleviated by companies that only work on a certain brand or model of car; but face it: We wouldn't be having this conversation if every "tuner" had the means and the money to get access to quality parts.

Just my two cents.

[AnthonyF]

There might be different examples of clean. If it's older and well taken care of, sure it's clean, but if it's newer and stock, it's just "well-maintained".

true true. good point. ur car is CLEANNNNN

[AnthonyF]

Cleanly modded is the key: completely stock, in good condition, & well detailed with just a little suspension work and the right wheels can make ANY car look good.

1) The first part of being a clean car is actually being clean 2) is having improvements and accents that flow with the lines of the car, or simplifies or smooths out un-needed things...

ahhhh what the hell do you know? what? you think your car is sexy?!?!?!?!

















pss.... I DO.

[OTG Signs]

true true. good point. ur car is CLEANNNNN

I'm shaving more of it right now.

[Dirty Octopus™]

i like the word "clean" over ALL
but some people dont know what clean means.

some feel as if they can just post up a stock just washed and waxed car and call it "clean". it DOES NOT work like that. your car has to have a personality that JDM parts, USDM parts, or NO Parts cant give you.
I like Speedminded, DOHC ACCLUDE, Big Dare, my car (waits for the haters to comment ), amongst many on this forum because they're tasteful but not COMPLETELY stock. You just CANNOT be dubbed the real definition of clean with a stock 06' RSX, STI, Mustang, or whatever is hawt these days.

Some "JDM" items are nice to have but not all are worth shit.
i say get whatever you feel is nice and what will add character to your vehicle.
I am NOT one to build a JDM car or a USDM car. but rather a clean simple vehicle that represents me and the person that i am. my car is playful just like me. my car has no A/C but i still manage to feel good in it even in this 103 degree weather beacause its not the expensive JDM built vehicle that cant be touched but rather a DD that fulfills my needs.

[JDMjoe]

i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

the following companys are NOT jdm i don't care what you say:
ROTA FOR GOD SAKE! ITS NOT ANYMORE JDM THAN APC, JUST ACCEPT IT!
anything that has the word "style" in it, if its a apexi N1 style, then guess what its NOT jdm

having jdm things that are true and real then they deserve the respect. having a JDM look is attainable but that doesn't make you jdm, jdm was founded on the motto, "form over function". anyone can "blackout" their head lights, slap an amber corner marker, take the reflector out of their tail lights, rock some spoon SW388 wanna bes and put a wakaba sticker in their window, yeah they are about as JDM as my big mac with soy sauce.

DON"T IMMITATE, RE-CREATE! true jdm deserves respect, it costs money, too expensive for you? deal with it.

Damn man, you couldn't have said it any better (but isn't it function over form???)

[BobbyFresco]

i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

the following companys are NOT jdm i don't care what you say:
ROTA FOR GOD SAKE! ITS NOT ANYMORE JDM THAN APC, JUST ACCEPT IT!
anything that has the word "style" in it, if its a apexi N1 style, then guess what its NOT jdm

having jdm things that are true and real then they deserve the respect. having a JDM look is attainable but that doesn't make you jdm, jdm was founded on the motto, "form over function". anyone can "blackout" their head lights, slap an amber corner marker, take the reflector out of their tail lights, rock some spoon SW388 wanna bes and put a wakaba sticker in their window, yeah they are about as JDM as my big mac with soy sauce.

DON"T IMMITATE, RE-CREATE! true jdm deserves respect, it costs money, too expensive for you? deal with it.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd bro.....As long as knock offs exist, there will be posers that will buy the shit trying to emulate the "JDM" style.....All those fake parts make the authentic ones that much better...

Just to play devil's advocate: What's the bigger "crime"....Buying fake parts and actually making use of your car or buying "JDM" parts for your car and not using them for the intended purpose?

[JDMcivic53]

i thought it was japanese design modifications??

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i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

the following companys are NOT jdm i don't care what you say:
ROTA FOR GOD SAKE! ITS NOT ANYMORE JDM THAN APC, JUST ACCEPT IT!
anything that has the word "style" in it, if its a apexi N1 style, then guess what its NOT jdm

having jdm things that are true and real then they deserve the respect. having a JDM look is attainable but that doesn't make you jdm, jdm was founded on the motto, "form over function". anyone can "blackout" their head lights, slap an amber corner marker, take the reflector out of their tail lights, rock some spoon SW388 wanna bes and put a wakaba sticker in their window, yeah they are about as JDM as my big mac with soy sauce.

DON"T IMMITATE, RE-CREATE! true jdm deserves respect, it costs money, too expensive for you? deal with it.

couldn't said it any better myself...... it kinda pisses me off when ppl are ill informed. they buy the knock off sh!t on ebay, and dont know it isn't actually "jdm". i was on passwordjdm for months waiting for the black housing headlights to get back in stock. i buy mine for 300 dollars and some poor shomoe thinks mine are fake bc i have lines goin across my headlights with a stanley number... i am not mad at the people for being ill informed i am mad that ppl are feeding these ppl bullsh!t.... thats just my 2 cents

[qwick]

the term "Japanese Domestic Market" or JDM is strictly used to refer to cars intended solely for sale in Japan. To be considered JDM, a car model (or a particular type or set-up within a model family) cannot be sold in any other market officially. Other markets acquire JDM vehicles through Japanese Used Vehicle Exporters selling grey import vehicles to importers. If a car or parts are sold in another market, such as the United States Domestic Market, it is not considered pure JDM but instead JDM inspired, even if manufactured under a Japanese brand.Japanese domestic market components are also preferred over Japanese aftermarket (Japanese aftermarket refers to products produced by Japanese companies, however, are not sold strictly within the Japanese domestic market.) An example of one such market is the import of Japanese engines to North America to be put into Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru and Mitsubishi cars for higher performance.

Though the majority of the JDM cars/parts imported to the United States have a US counterpart, the Japanese version may have certain advantages. Often Japanese engines have received factory tuning that allows for a higher horsepower output, due to decreased emissions standards in Japan. Cars, though of the same model, may have a different version in Japan than in the United States. Often these cars will have more performance oriented items, including but not limited to seats with more secure bolsters, increased lighting capabilities, different engines, increased suspension capabilities, along with several others.

[Revmaynard]

i thought it was japanese design modifications??

Fuh realz!? I thought it meant Japanese Destroy Monsters!?

[redpanda]

Fuh realz!? I thought it meant Japanese Destroy Monsters!?

Japanese Dangerous Muffins?!

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

Me personally like to stick with the word Oem, i like an oem look better than a jdm look but thats me

[qwick]

i thought it was japanese design modifications??

LOL good job JDMcivic53 ....

[NeWTRouBLeArMy]

Are you sure its not Japan's Dirty Monkeys







wait are there any monkeys in japan

[mocha latte cupcake]

Are you sure its not Japan's Dirty Monkeys
wait are there any monkeys in japan

note* no its jewish dradle mania


and yes there are monkeys in japan


93lude - i agree... i think its funny to go to car shows and see the ricer civics win b/c they have more "visible" modifications when that may be true to someone who doesn't know anything about "subtle" JDM mods... IE, KMH cluster, OEM center console with different configurations, JDM stitched seats (my seats in japan are the same but with a different inset pattern), jdm headlights "stanley", City lights on the headlights etc etc... kinda irritating but i know what you mean


ES_rolla -that is one opinion however if you like JDM then you should LOVE JDM. it is basically only a greater version of your "USDM OEM" accessories we didn't get over here which just make the car that much better... case in point, my mirrors are power folding where as my USDM ones didn't even have any kind of folding mirrors, and its funny to do it now and people are like DAMN! thats stock?!!??! i didn't even know those car had those thats HOT! and all it is... is a "oem" part

[EJ25RUN]

J.D.M. ~ A three letter acronym that has taken any originality out of the tuning scene while at the same time crediting a parrell universe where things that arn't "JDM" are said to be as if they are . At first it was a good idea when those few around the usa built cars to true JDM specs. But afrter many realized they either cant: afford, find, fabricate, to jdm specs they went with cheaper US solutions and it all went downhill from there. Today its main use is for novice tuners to down someone elses car just because it doesnt have a
JDM look.

It so stupid because those few on IA that have visited japan will know the scene out there is to be as extreme as possible. Years ago stuff like Veilside bodykits might have turned me away but now im one of the few people on IA that thinks the "ill just put a lip on it and call it a day" approach as lame and going with a huge bland trend. This is unless of course thats what the really want to do instead of fear of ridicule.

What is JDM today.....like APC before it, its hurting the tuner industry more than helping it.

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

note* no its jewish dradle mania


and yes there are monkeys in japan


93lude - i agree... i think its funny to go to car shows and see the ricer civics win b/c they have more "visible" modifications when that may be true to someone who doesn't know anything about "subtle" JDM mods... IE, KMH cluster, OEM center console with different configurations, JDM stitched seats (my seats in japan are the same but with a different inset pattern), jdm headlights "stanley", City lights on the headlights etc etc... kinda irritating but i know what you mean


ES_rolla -that is one opinion however if you like JDM then you should LOVE JDM. it is basically only a greater version of your "USDM OEM" accessories we didn't get over here which just make the car that much better... case in point, my mirrors are power folding where as my USDM ones didn't even have any kind of folding mirrors, and its funny to do it now and people are like DAMN! thats stock?!!??! i didn't even know those car had those thats HOT! and all it is... is a "oem" part

so like your sayin oem parts or whatever are basically refered to as usdm

[addictxx]

jdm is better it looks better b/c it looks natrual it make a honda look like a honda not a space ship and yeah i sport the jdm in my ef i got the grey/red pinstriped seats, jdm cluster, jdm wheel, gsr starfishes,so on a red 91 si with gun metal wheels and grey black and red interior that just looks sick

[qwick]

I think what a lot of people call JDM now a days is realy "JDM influence" it follows the same basic principals of true JDM but does not use auctual JDM parts. The only way to auctualy get a true JDM part is to call or e-mail a company in side japan and have it shipped over to the states, i say this because as every one knows you cant buy a full motor swap there are parts you will need to complete the swap and 99% of the time we use US OEM parts, this then makes your JDM motor swap only JDM inspired. now there are exceptions to this rule but it does not happen often.


Just my

[JDMirza]

i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

the following companys are NOT jdm i don't care what you say:
ROTA FOR GOD SAKE! ITS NOT ANYMORE JDM THAN APC, JUST ACCEPT IT!
anything that has the word "style" in it, if its a apexi N1 style, then guess what its NOT jdm

having jdm things that are true and real then they deserve the respect. having a JDM look is attainable but that doesn't make you jdm, jdm was founded on the motto, "form over function". anyone can "blackout" their head lights, slap an amber corner marker, take the reflector out of their tail lights, rock some spoon SW388 wanna bes and put a wakaba sticker in their window, yeah they are about as JDM as my big mac with soy sauce.

DON"T IMMITATE, RE-CREATE! true jdm deserves respect, it costs money, too expensive for you? deal with it.

Nicely said.

[01CDMLUDER]

CDM>JDM

JDM= a rhd car from japan. or any car parts from japan

people shouldn't buy things just because they're jdm they should buy them if they look good (body, interior) or if they actually increase hp. i got the type s lip for my car bc i like the way it look not because it was jdm and all the jdm (cali) bandwagon nutswingers would like it. dont get something bc everyone else likes it get it because U like it.

[JDMjoe]

i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

the following companys are NOT jdm i don't care what you say:
ROTA FOR GOD SAKE! ITS NOT ANYMORE JDM THAN APC, JUST ACCEPT IT!
anything that has the word "style" in it, if its a apexi N1 style, then guess what its NOT jdm

having jdm things that are true and real then they deserve the respect. having a JDM look is attainable but that doesn't make you jdm, jdm was founded on the motto, "form over function". anyone can "blackout" their head lights, slap an amber corner marker, take the reflector out of their tail lights, rock some spoon SW388 wanna bes and put a wakaba sticker in their window, yeah they are about as JDM as my big mac with soy sauce.

DON"T IMMITATE, RE-CREATE! true jdm deserves respect, it costs money, too expensive for you? deal with it.

Im not taking up for those who are on the bandwagon for rockin the wakaba stickers but in fact they are real and personally 2 different older people i know has visted japan and knew what my badges were! but i haven't had them on my car for sometime b/c my car is not up to my jdm par as of right now lol.

I hate the whole "jdm style" sh!t. I believe in function/form and i also strive for a japanese spec civic. I personally like japanese oem parts as well as japanese aftermarket parts. I would buy non japanese performance parts but i would NEVER buy jdm "style parts" To me thats just people jumping on the bandwagon.
EDIT: Damn this tread is old, i thought i posted on it before... i did

[Elbow]

USDM > JDM

[01CDMLUDER]

no its CDM>JDM

[Z33_kid]

i think it gets twisted some most of the time theres some few nice jdm rides in atl tho

[MidLifeCrisis]

horsepower parts> jdm parts.

although i will admit that japan and its culture beats the brakeshoes off of america and its ****ty culture, buying jdm parts is the biggest waste of time ever.

[JITB]

the lack of originality killed the jdm trend. When people look at other peoples cars and build theirs exactly like it. its crazy, that when a person posts a car with a kit. you will have 25 people say the same thing
"get smaller wheels"
"slam it more"
"get a lip"
its so silly to see cars that costs 20k+ doin the same cheap ass mods that people used to do years ago and it wasnt cool. Painting stock wheels has gotten outrageous.. its so funny to see.

[JDMrequired]

j-spec > jdm

yeah man, "j-spec" is the new throwback...lets hurry up and call everything j-spec so it will be cool like JDM.lol

i would rep you, but i have to spread it around too much

[NAIZBST]

the lack of originality killed the jdm trend. When people look at other peoples cars and build theirs exactly like it. its crazy, that when a person posts a car with a kit. you will have 25 people say the same thing
"get smaller wheels"
"slam it more"
"get a lip"
its so silly to see cars that costs 20k+ doin the same cheap ass mods that people used to do years ago and it wasnt cool. Painting stock wheels has gotten outrageous.. its so funny to see.

[Barefoot]

my question is what do u think JDM is?
Japanese
Domestic
market

wasted money and time. paying 4 times as much for some headlights just to say its JDM.

[Nomad!]

Fuh realz!? I thought it meant Japanese Destroy Monsters!?

Are you sure its not Japan's Dirty Monkeys

note* no its jewish dradle mania

[Total_Blender]

How are flat black hoods and crooked tailpipes function over form?

Seriously though, JDM is just a buzzword. It might have menat something at one point in time, but it has been abused to the point now that it means nothing.

"Type R" is another one. People who have real type R's are being accused of having fake type R's because the trend got so out of hand.

Its not just the ricer scene that does it either. There are very few '60's Tempests or LeMans that haven't had GTO badges installed. Non-SS Chevy's with SS badges. Non-Shelby Fords with Shelby badges.

[PURP]

To be honest it really doesn't matter if your cars has real jdm parts. as long as its clean and your chill. then really it doens't matter. Theres broke a$$ ppl who have no money buying JDM STYLE parts that look just as good as a REAL JDM part. Cmon its just parts what does it matter how much you spend. Get real ppl you shouldn't shut down someone cuzz there rotas that look like spoons cost then 1000 dollars less then yours. It looks Good thats all that counts. REMEMBER, WE'RE TRYING TO GET PPL TOGETHER ON THIS WHOLE NON RICE YOUR RIDE SH1T. JUST BE HAPPY PPL ARE TRYING. THERES NO NEED IN TRYING TO IMPRESS SOMEONE YOU DON'T LIKE.

[yudalicious]

Like, having a multi page thread arguing about JDM is so NOT JDM, totally.

[itsnotarex]

people are taking JDM too far, all it means is the car OR part came from a factory in japan. not drifting, not "clean" it means nothing. just Japanese Domestic Market. and who gives a ****?

FTMFW. I usually think reps are stupid, but somebody finally said something worth going to the trouble for.

I think a car that sports a retarded body kit and an unnecessarily loud exhaust is just that: unnecessary and a waste of money. A car that is tastefully done cosmetically and is pushing some decent power isn't "JDM" unless it's RHD and the engine code is in Japanese. And even then it's not that big of a deal. That just means it can't pass emissions without dumping 100hp.

Now when a RHD skyline R33 drives past me in traffic, that's just ****ing cool to see in the US, since it's an amazing car we just don't have the privelige of being able to purchase. Has nothing to do with the fact that it's 'JDMTYTEYO!'

[zoborax]

Most people in Japan drive little cars that are classified as "kei", and they have the weakest hp and weight classification. However, they do get the best gas mileage and have the cheapest insurance. These "kei" cars look much like the Scion xB and xA. The Hoda fit is quite popular too! The most popular Nissan in Japan is the Nissan March. On average, you just see the Nissan Cubes and other box cars "drifting" around the streets. Some might have some fancy ground effects or a chrome tail-pipe, but most are plain and very cheap. It's actually rare to see 7's, Supra's or GT-R's driven every-day (of course more frequent than here). All in all, the racing/VIP/drifting/drag racing/show lifestyles are just sub-cultures like we have here. They are by no means the norm and are often frowned-upon by authorities and average everyday people (just like here).

Yes I love my GT-R, not because of JDM status, but because it is a fcuking blast to drive and tinker with. I wish to God they sold it here from the beginning, for my bank account would be much happier! Sure the RHD factor is a novelty that attracts attention (mostly in and of itself), but the car is fun to drive. There are many cars here that are fun, too! I.E. Supras, Type Rs, S2ks, 7s, etc.

It's a free country (sort-of), so if having "JDM" parts on your car makes you happy, then cool. Just remember that what you think is "JDM", may in fact be "JDM", but it's not what your average run-of-the-mill Japanese remotely cares about!

Sorry for the long rant.

[njjfudge]

I liked my car when I first got it, but when I saw the way it looked b4 it was redesigned for the states I was like WOW! The original design of Japanese cars are much cleaner than the rehashes and dumb downs they do for the states. Now a days JDM and J-spec are gimmicks, and terms thrown around to sell knock off parts. In all really JDM parts are just stock parts, but they are parts you cant buy here and not many people have.

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i'll bite on this one, for me JDM parts is buying parts you can not get here or are more so readily available. ie, mugen, spoon, (not so much nismo anymore, cause its avail at any nissan dealership) HKS, ORC, ARC, RAYS, ATTAIN, DESMOND, CRUISE, KANSAI, CUSCO, BRIDE, RECARO, OEM JDM PARTS etc etc.

Desmond is a russian company I believe

[GTScoob]

Who really cares what JDM is? The majority of JDM performance parts can be sourced domestically for a fraction of the cost. Why pay $1100 for a Trust/Greddy exhaust when you can get Joe Schmoes muffler shop to make you the exact same 3" mandrel bent exhaust and YOUR choice of a muffler and tip. Same goes for fancy HKS turbos when you can get a solid Garrett custom made here in the USA, or Blitz ICs when you can get Spearco here. I could go on forever, why spend $5K on a Tomei stroker kit when you can piece together one with Eagle rods, Mahle pistons, etc for the same or cheaper and not have to wait 5 weeks for your crate to make it across the pacific.

I'm all for JDM if its a JDM motor that is much better than the USDM equivalent. Buy parts for your car because you like them, not because you're trying to fit some JDM image. I guess if you like paying too much for a name brand then go ahead and get your JDM Bride seats instead of Corbeaus or Cobras. But seriously, JDM folding mirrors, who really gives a damn? JDM coin holder in the dash, again WTF? JDM windows, ooh thats hot ****.

/rant. Buy american.