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    Quote Originally Posted by Moseley View Post
    If you are talking about K20s, yes... but don't forget the K24s... I bet half of all honda's sold in the US between 03 and now have had K24s in them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarKStaR View Post
    Nick has to get out of the 12s before he goes 9s lulz, you cant talk a big game and have never made a full pass....


    As far as stretch and morris, if it was for posting in the wrong section, It was for the thread they made in the normal kf section of the turbo integra, tell them to put it in here next time.....
    are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob
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    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
    are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob
    and if you somehow "cant" out run em

    My choice of straight line machinery is red weighs 535 with me on it and makes 297whp NA what you boys wanna do? LOL...reallllll talk! and there isnt a import in this state that will run with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
    are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob
    Really? You just made your self look like a jackass, i said NICK your name is JUSTIN, and then you make a comment about being faster.....id hope so with bigger motor,turbo, more power...but then again look at the car its in.....My car ran a very good time for the setup that it had and thats all I care about.

    I dont see how nick is slowly learning his car if hes had it at the track 2 times.....1st time he tried making passes with 600+hp with a single disk clutch on 26" slicks(ask him how that went), and the 2nd time broke an axle launching on the first pass of the day....and he hasnt been back out since...guess he's learning how to e-race....
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    Quote Originally Posted by -S Double C- View Post
    and if you somehow "cant" out run em

    My choice of straight line machinery is red weighs 535 with me on it and makes 297whp NA what you boys wanna do? LOL...reallllll talk! and there isnt a import in this state that will run with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Star Racing builds Suzuki's (imports) - you aren't running as fast as their Pro Stock bikes.
    im just shooting the shit lol but we aint scared my buddy tootie done knocked off a few off them pro stock bikes there only going mids to high 4's we do that on stock frames and no wheelie bars...with a small slick...hell were knocking on the door of what they run with our shinko hookup street tire on the NA zx10
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarKStaR View Post
    Really? You just made your self look like a jackass, i said NICK your name is JUSTIN, and then you make a comment about being faster.....id hope so with bigger motor,turbo, more power...but then again look at the car its in.....My car ran a very good time for the setup that it had and thats all I care about.

    I dont see how nick is slowly learning his car if hes had it at the track 2 times.....1st time he tried making passes with 600+hp with a single disk clutch on 26" slicks(ask him how that went), and the 2nd time broke an axle launching on the first pass of the day....and he hasnt been back out since...guess he's learning how to e-race....
    I made myself look like a jackass??? The fist part was about nick you didnt say who the second part was about..... And I never said nick ran 9s I said its capable of 9s just like mine and matts and teymurs are all capable of high 9s but being capable dont always get you there
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    It was all about nick, hince why it was together on the same line and the stretch and morris part was separate... But its funny how you got defensive about something you didnt know who it was about...

    I thought you were trying to trade your setup for a 300+hp all motor setup? what happened with that? Did you get a new block from where you sank a sleeve on the dyno?
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    sunk sleeve, ewwwwwwwwww

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    Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

    Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

    I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

    I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

    like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.

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    mike you've become quite the post whore!!

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    It was the full dart sleevd block off of nemos built . It did not have dry replacement sleeves . I honestly didnt think them sleeves were capable of sinking but he was blowing head gaskets at 15 pounds of boost . I dont care what the problem was just hope he gets it together he deserves it.

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    installer error?

    How about step decking it
    Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
    howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
    howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmminoDaGreat View Post
    installer error?

    How about step decking it
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    howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
    howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay
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    So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

    Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic View Post
    So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

    Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

    Good Night!!
    Most bike riders will only manage 11's - go to the track and you will see that they are not unbeatable by any means.
    I still haven't seen a real reason for stretch getting banned. A warning should have been enough, with what little that I have heard. I have the outside view though, and don't know if he was previously warned.

    So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarKStaR View Post
    It was all about nick, hince why it was together on the same line and the stretch and morris part was separate... But its funny how you got defensive about something you didnt know who it was about...

    I thought you were trying to trade your setup for a 300+hp all motor setup? what happened with that? Did you get a new block from where you sank a sleeve on the dyno?

    I wanted to and allmost traded my setup plus cash for hah2b's setup "fastest h2b period" but didnt so I started building my own and put my turbo car back together.... Its back in the carnow just waiting to go back to the dyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

    Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

    I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

    I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

    like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.
    I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.
    Compared to a v8? none.

    In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

    Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

    I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story
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    Ive seen a couple h motors hold a 75shot stock for years . They normaly run 12.7-12.8 but thats about all the nitrous ive seen besides being used to spool up a turbo . I think jj is pretty good with the nitrous stuff . He had a ten second h22 nitrous motor for years with stock block and mahle pistons .

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmminoDaGreat View Post
    mike you've become quite the post whore!!
    Trying to get my reps up like all the cool kids on ia

    Why dont you tell me why you cant return a text?

    Shouldnt you be putting greggs motor together lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
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    I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time
    Thats still shitty with that setup eother way . I just want you to get your shit right and be able to actually attend a couple races .

    It sucks when we have some realy nice cars between a few friends and we could actually have a good time at the tarck but everybodys shit stays broke all the time lol. maybe this year will be the year. I hope nicks gets to make a few passes to man damn if he dont deserve it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmminoDaGreat View Post
    installer error?

    How about step decking it
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    howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay
    That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

    I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more

    Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Compared to a v8? none.

    In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

    Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

    I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story
    I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Compared to a v8? none.

    In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

    Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

    I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

    This is true, but NOS is no joke.. Direct port can be done right though, progressive controller and well it's game on!!

    Yes most of the kids stick a dry kit on the car with a vaccum to the regulator thinking that shit will work, well it can IF you watch fuel pressure.. But who does that?? Moseley does it, but he also adds fuel threw the injectors I think.. Still not safe to me, but he don't spray 150 ether..

    Stock B will take 50-75 easy, but over 100 and it will burn valves, pistons, etc!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.
    oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

    a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick
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    i plan on spraying my TL if i cant pick a supercharger up cheap. Itll be my first nitrous "honda"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

    a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

    I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more

    Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.


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    to vteckidd, just thought id post this since i found it lurking threw my phone. and yes i kno we established sum of it already. here u go. . now where my money at lol j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    i plan on spraying my TL if i cant pick a supercharger up cheap. Itll be my first nitrous "honda"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightAuto View Post
    Not always true.
    of course not always true, but most ive seen never do it right, and its unreliable at best. to REALLY run a 150-200shot you need progressive controller, prob direct port, a purpose built motor for nitrous, lots of trial and error, etc.

    Its just not as easy or consistent as a V8
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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    to vteckidd, just thought id post this since i found it lurking threw my phone. and yes i kno we established sum of it already. here u go. . now where my money at lol j/k

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    lol, im just a beginner, more seat time is still to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    lol, im just a beginner, more seat time is still to come
    Fuck seat time, put slicks on that bitch.. She's moving!!

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    Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket
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    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
    Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket
    Sounds like Head Gaskets don't like you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.
    K for sure. Dan down in tampa ran a 200 direct port dry shot on a stock K20a2 w/ ARP head studs, injectors, race gas. 453 whp. In a full weight EG (2400 w/ driver) it went 10.60 @ 132. That is fucking insane for a 2.0L to handle that kind of shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

    a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick
    I don't agree that it ends motors pretty quick. It's all in the tuning, having a safety net, etc. what difference does it make if you're injecting a lot of nitrous vs a little? its not much different than running 12psi vs. 20psi on a stock block. Get the right plugs, gas, don't be aggressive on timing, respect the bottle pressure it's possible to keep it safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moseley View Post
    I don't agree that it ends motors pretty quick. It's all in the tuning, having a safety net, etc. what difference does it make if you're injecting a lot of nitrous vs a little? its not much different than running 12psi vs. 20psi on a stock block. Get the right plugs, gas, don't be aggressive on timing, respect the bottle pressure it's possible to keep it safe.
    I have to agree because my first k20 was bone stock and I ended up hitting it with a 175 wet shot single fogger and i never had any problems. The person I sold the motor never had any problems with it either. And it was on a street tune....
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