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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft View Post
    you should be a good run for a hatch with a b18/header/tune. On average those Gt's are trapping about 99mph, typically they can go 98-102.x depending on the year.

    I ran one about 20 different times when my E36 M3 was completely stock except for a cat back and not one car could pull from any speed 30, 40, 50, all the way to 130. That car went 13.9@99 with a 2.0 60 ft
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.

    Mine's the red one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.
    Why would you say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomGoat View Post
    Why would you say that?
    B18A

    The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

    * Non-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.4:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Dual Keihin Carbs
    + Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
    + Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

    [edit] B18A1

    * NON -VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Redline: 6500 rpm
    + Rev Limiter: 7200
    + Programmed fuel injection
    + Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
    + Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm

    + Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
    + Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

    [edit] B18B1

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    + Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
    + Transmission: Y80/S80

    [edit] B18B4

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    # 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm

    + Transmission: Y80/4254245

    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.

    Mine's the red one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.
    not at all....but the gsr motor only has about 30 more hp.....in oem n/a form they are all pretty weak. the real advantage to any of them is in the vtec b series motors, not becuase they make slightly more power, but because they rev higher and have oil squirters for the wrist pins (which i guess is directly related to making more power along with higher compression ratios) small displacement motors need to rev high to make power. that being said the gsr or type-r would be the ones with more guts you could say...i prefer the gsr simply because of a more tame compression ratio and its ability to launch my 93 4 door dx nearly into the 11's with 120k miles and zero internal mods.

    make no mistake though the ls motor can suprise you.....so watch out

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing View Post
    not at all....but the gsr motor only has about 30 more hp.....in oem n/a form they are all pretty weak. the real advantage to any of them is in the vtec b series motors, not becuase they make slightly more power, but because they rev higher and have oil squirters for the wrist pins (which i guess is directly related to making more power along with higher compression ratios) small displacement motors need to rev high to make power. that being said the gsr or type-r would be the ones with more guts you could say...i prefer the gsr simply because of a more tame compression ratio and its ability to launch my 93 4 door dx nearly into the 11's with 120k miles and zero internal mods.

    make no mistake though the ls motor can suprise you.....so watch out

    WHAT THE FUCK. Show me where a 4 door civic with a STOCK internal GSR B18c1 with 170 crank hp will run low 12's, because low 12's is "nearly into the 11's".
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post


    I'd be down but Reynolds is too far. How about the Friday night drags at AMS on the 16th?
    I'll run ya. But, I don't have a B or a K. But, it's all motor... lmk if ya make it down there.


    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN View Post
    WHAT THE FUCK. Show me where a 4 door civic with a STOCK internal GSR B18c1 with 170 crank hp will run low 12's, because low 12's is "nearly into the 11's".
    Show me where he said it only had 170 crank hp....
    Back to being stock and slow

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.
    No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

    I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft View Post
    No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

    I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight
    Yeah those hatches can get stupid fast.

    Mine's the red one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    B18A

    The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

    * Non-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.4:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Dual Keihin Carbs
    + Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
    + Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

    [edit] B18A1

    * NON -VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Redline: 6500 rpm
    + Rev Limiter: 7200
    + Programmed fuel injection
    + Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
    + Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm

    + Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
    + Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

    [edit] B18B1

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    + Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
    + Transmission: Y80/S80

    [edit] B18B4

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    # 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm

    + Transmission: Y80/4254245

    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid



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    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid
    Yeah if you are wanting stock hp motors you are deffinetly wasting your time. If ya ever come to Reynolds for like muscle car evolution or anything like that, i run ya in my B thats got some V. just to c how i would fair against a newer GT mustang it be fun!!
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    x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid
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    i say u run me when u get ur car back, i dont want u 2 waste ur gas on a V8. LMK


    Quote Originally Posted by jadakid88 View Post
    x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    i say u run me when u get ur car back, i dont want u 2 waste ur gas on a V8. LMK
    If/when you do, go on the THIRD honk not the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadakid88 View Post
    x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
    I'll take that as a call out. PM me whenever you're ready. I prefer dig runs but if you must go from a roll, I'll accommodate a 30 kick. If your B can "walk the shit out of me" it really shouldn't matter what the starting speed is right?

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    no problem
    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    I'll take that as a call out. PM me whenever you're ready. I prefer dig runs but if you must go from a roll, I'll accommodate a 30 kick. If your B can "walk the shit out of me" it really shouldn't matter what the starting speed is right?
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