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    Default Any NA K20 or B18C Hondas want a fun run?

    Just want to see how fast these things are. The Mustang GT in my sig is stock, except for the KNN air filter and an axle back delete. My goal is to lose by 3 car lengths or less (yeah I said it).
    Hopefully my preferences aren't too demanding:
    Would prefer a 30 roll but wouldn't mind a dig run either.
    Street tire vs. street tire
    Your NA motor vs. my NA
    Must be within 20 miles, otherwise meet me at Commerce.

    Sorry if this thread is a waste of space. I'm just looking for excuses to decarbonize my engine.

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    If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...
    Good luck with that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiog1...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    You just have to deduct a car length due to weight to power ratio of the 2 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...
    drive your own car and race me
    now with LSD
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMJAYDC2 View Post
    drive your own car and race me
    I can't they don't make tires strong enough to handle my sohc power

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    How bout, just save your gas.

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    I'm in. Dig only. Street tire vs street tire. PM me.
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    If i was close i hook ya up with a run!! You shoulnt lose by two cars just sayin. But good luck to you and whoever you race!!
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    V8 .. too fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black4DrEK View Post
    How bout, just save your gas.
    Hey buddy. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have posted this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Hey buddy. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have posted this thread.
    I see you are 20 years old how the fuck you afford a new GT ????

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    I'm a vet tech and I live with parents.

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    true that. So I decided to just go to Commerce this Friday because of,

    Last edited by 40th GT; 07-04-2010 at 12:51 PM.

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    why not call out other v8? i rememeber a thread being posted like a year ago dealing with the same thing



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    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    why not call out other v8? i rememeber a thread being posted like a year ago dealing with the same thing
    A thread from me? That was a call out to other cars in general, not just to Hondas.
    But yeah, most other V8s are out of my league because they're modded.

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    i raced one exactly like urs on thursday and i raped it by like 3 cars. there u go dats ur outcome. no need to waste gas now
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    you should be a good run for a hatch with a b18/header/tune. On average those Gt's are trapping about 99mph, typically they can go 98-102.x depending on the year.

    I ran one about 20 different times when my E36 M3 was completely stock except for a cat back and not one car could pull from any speed 30, 40, 50, all the way to 130. That car went 13.9@99 with a 2.0 60 ft
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft View Post
    you should be a good run for a hatch with a b18/header/tune. On average those Gt's are trapping about 99mph, typically they can go 98-102.x depending on the year.

    I ran one about 20 different times when my E36 M3 was completely stock except for a cat back and not one car could pull from any speed 30, 40, 50, all the way to 130. That car went 13.9@99 with a 2.0 60 ft
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.
    Why would you say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
    But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.
    No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

    I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight
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    pm me wecan set something up
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomGoat View Post
    Why would you say that?
    B18A

    The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

    * Non-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.4:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Dual Keihin Carbs
    + Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
    + Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

    [edit] B18A1

    * NON -VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Redline: 6500 rpm
    + Rev Limiter: 7200
    + Programmed fuel injection
    + Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
    + Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm

    + Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
    + Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

    [edit] B18B1

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    + Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
    + Transmission: Y80/S80

    [edit] B18B4

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    # 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm

    + Transmission: Y80/4254245

    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft View Post
    No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

    I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight
    Yeah those hatches can get stupid fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.
    not at all....but the gsr motor only has about 30 more hp.....in oem n/a form they are all pretty weak. the real advantage to any of them is in the vtec b series motors, not becuase they make slightly more power, but because they rev higher and have oil squirters for the wrist pins (which i guess is directly related to making more power along with higher compression ratios) small displacement motors need to rev high to make power. that being said the gsr or type-r would be the ones with more guts you could say...i prefer the gsr simply because of a more tame compression ratio and its ability to launch my 93 4 door dx nearly into the 11's with 120k miles and zero internal mods.

    make no mistake though the ls motor can suprise you.....so watch out

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40th GT View Post
    B18A

    The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

    * Non-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
    o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.4:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Dual Keihin Carbs
    + Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
    + Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

    [edit] B18A1

    * NON -VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Redline: 6500 rpm
    + Rev Limiter: 7200
    + Programmed fuel injection
    + Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
    + Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm

    + Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
    + Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

    [edit] B18B1

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    + Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
    + Transmission: Y80/S80

    [edit] B18B4

    * NON-VTEC
    * Found in:
    o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
    + Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
    + Compression: 9.2:1
    + Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
    + Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
    + Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
    + Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
    + Power: 142 hp
    + Redline: 7200 rpm
    # 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm

    + Transmission: Y80/4254245

    Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid



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    K series full weight coupe here and I trap 103.
    K-What?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid
    Yeah if you are wanting stock hp motors you are deffinetly wasting your time. If ya ever come to Reynolds for like muscle car evolution or anything like that, i run ya in my B thats got some V. just to c how i would fair against a newer GT mustang it be fun!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejohnson88 View Post
    K series full weight coupe here and I trap 103.
    I trap around 100 mph also
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    i got a K20 for him. I should be trapping around 96-97
    Who knows?

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    ^ in the eighth.
    Last edited by ejohnson88; 07-17-2010 at 11:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid
    Point taken. Thanks for looking out.
    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomGoat View Post
    Yeah if you are wanting stock hp motors you are deffinetly wasting your time. If ya ever come to Reynolds for like muscle car evolution or anything like that, i run ya in my B thats got some V. just to c how i would fair against a newer GT mustang it be fun!!
    I'd be down but Reynolds is too far. How about the Friday night drags at AMS on the 16th?
    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomGoat View Post
    I trap around 100 mph also
    Same here, if you're talking about 1/4 mile lol.

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    I dont have a honda but I do have a 1.8liter that I would be more then happy to show you my taillights. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.S. View Post
    I dont have a honda but I do have a 1.8liter that I would be more then happy to show you my taillights. =)
    Yeah, boost is great isn't it.

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    yes, yes it is.
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    x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid
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    i say u run me when u get ur car back, i dont want u 2 waste ur gas on a V8. LMK


    Quote Originally Posted by jadakid88 View Post
    x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
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