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    well its raining..nevermind

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    LOL Brandon, Lurker wouldn't come out anyway. I honestly believe only a handful of people in this section really even come out. The rest just put in their two cents and make claims about what their cars can do or have done, or just don't have a fast car at all.

    Bitches.

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    I would if it wasnt over an hour ride for me. And my car is down at the moment switching blocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btstone View Post
    well its raining..nevermind
    window racing doesnt require traction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackedInATL View Post
    LOL Brandon, Lurker wouldn't come out anyway. I honestly believe only a handful of people in this section really even come out. The rest just put in their two cents and make claims about what their cars can do or have done, or just don't have a fast car at all.

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    I think I'll be back in town Thursday or possibly Sunday. I'll run you from a dig but how much money you gonna put down on it?

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    So Lurker is driving that M3? I never knew that was his, thought it was someone's who wasn't on here.

    I can't tell how fast it is from the video, since he yanks Stone sometimes, and sometimes stays way back. Would it be a good run with me? I can come out if you guys think it'd be a good run. And you know me, I do those high speed rolls with my gearing.

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    What gearing do u have Lank b/c you mention that a lot - yet I see other Vettes who'll gladly dig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    What gearing do u have Lank b/c you mention that a lot - yet I see other Vettes who'll gladly dig.
    My gearing has nothing to do with why I don't like dig races.

    It's a 3.42, but my gears are completely different from any other 3.42 in a GM vehicle. On top of that, my car revs 500RPM higher than any other factory car that has a 3.42, so I have a substantial difference in the speed I reach in each gear. I've tried 1st gear several times and it's just a waste, so I always go from 2nd gear. As you know, people usually like between 20 - 40mph, but my 2nd gear doesn't hit its powerband until 70mph....so I prefer something closer to that speed.

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    Sounds like you've built a setup that only does a certain thing well, but you want every1 else to compensate for it.

    How about you run their race if they run yours??? Not poking - just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Sounds like you've built a setup that only does a certain thing well, but you want every1 else to compensate for it.

    How about you run their race if they run yours??? Not poking - just a thought.
    No, I haven't "built" any "setup" for my car. It's stock with bolt ons....this is how the car comes from the factory, and I am plenty happy with it.

    And how can you make a comment as to what I expect of people? I have ALWAYS compromised with people, and typically do 40 - 45mph rolls, ask anyone who has actually raced me. I KNOW my car is geared way higher than anyone else's, and DO NOT expect them to do ridiculously high rolls. It's rare to run into someone who actually has a similar "sweet spot" that I do, and this M3 looks like it has massive traction issues at low speeds...that's why I said something.

    But please find where I have made callouts to people telling them they have to start a race at 60+mph...I don't do it. I also usually just respectfully decline races against people with very low gears, because I know it's unfair to ask them to do a 50+mph roll when they run out of gearing at 115mph, and I know it's just pointless for me to try to race them in their powerband when I'm at 3200 RPMs to start off with.

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    This bimmer rides out, you can come get some too Lank for $200 from a roll to whatever speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss View Post
    No, I haven't "built" any "setup" for my car. It's stock with bolt ons....this is how the car comes from the factory, and I am plenty happy with it.

    And how can you make a comment as to what I expect of people? I have ALWAYS compromised with people, and typically do 40 - 45mph rolls, ask anyone who has actually raced me. I KNOW my car is geared way higher than anyone else's, and DO NOT expect them to do ridiculously high rolls. It's rare to run into someone who actually has a similar "sweet spot" that I do, and this M3 looks like it has massive traction issues at low speeds...that's why I said something.

    But please find where I have made callouts to people telling them they have to start a race at 60+mph...I don't do it. I also usually just respectfully decline races against people with very low gears, because I know it's unfair to ask them to do a 50+mph roll when they run out of gearing at 115mph, and I know it's just pointless for me to try to race them in their powerband when I'm at 3200 RPMs to start off with.
    Relax man. I simply notice that you always want a high(er) speed roll and don't dig much so inquiring minds want to know. I wasn't talking about the 40-45 rolls I was referring moreso to digs. As I stated "not poking" so you wouldn't take it that way.

    So you'll run any1 else's race? To include digs??

    I didn't say you made a callout to any1 - show ME where I said that you did. You answered my question long ago kid, and that answer makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Relax man. I simply notice that you always want a high(er) speed roll and don't dig much so inquiring minds want to know. I wasn't talking about the 40-45 rolls I was referring moreso to digs. As I stated "not poking" so you wouldn't take it that way.

    So you'll run any1 else's race? To include digs??

    I didn't say you made a callout to any1 - show ME where I said that you did. You answered my question long ago kid, and that answer makes sense to me.
    I don't like dig races because it's hard on several components that I don't want to pay to replace, and dig races are more dangerous in my mind.

    Lurker, I don't race for money so no thanks.

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    ^^ Very well. Nothing wrong with protecting your investment sir!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    ^^ Very well. Nothing wrong with protecting your investment sir!!!

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    Well, for some reason I thought that M3 is Lurker, but I guess that's not right.

    Who is he, and would we be a good run? lol

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    I think he is a so watch out. Better bring Chuck Norris to film it if this goes down.

    I would like to see how you'd fair against him, just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post
    I think he is a so watch out. Better bring Chuck Norris to film it if this goes down.

    I would like to see how you'd fair against him, just sayin'.
    Looks like he's starting at too low of a speed in the video to get traction, so it's hard to say how fast it is. I'd be willing to go from a higher speed, as high as 65mph. If he can't get traction there, then that car is useless lol

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    He has full traction by 50-55 from a roll..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepys4 View Post
    He has full traction by 50-55 from a roll..
    You think we'd be a good run, Jordan? Or would that car put the hurtin' on me? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post
    I think he is a so watch out. Better bring Chuck Norris to film it if this goes down.

    I would like to see how you'd fair against him, just sayin'.
    I don't do filming. And don't mention me w/out permission bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCK NORRIS View Post
    I don't do filming. And don't mention me w/out permission bitch.



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    I think it would be good from a 50..With him on 12lbs

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    Alright, I'll try to make it out one of these nights with you guys. I haven't been out in a while anyway.

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    Damn Lank, You have had me scratching my head for several seconds... lol. I have a GTO with the stock 3.46 gears in the rear and im a M6. Im like... how the hell is his sweet spot at 70mph in second?????? Then i finally realized... You must have an automatic?
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    No, I have a 6 speed. I wish I could find that good gear calculator that showed each speed at every RPM in each gear, but I couldn't find it through a quick Google search.

    I've got stock 3.42's, 7100 RPM red line, and 345/30/19 tires. My car goes to about 93mph in 2nd gear, and hits either 5000 or 5500 RPM's at 70mph (can't remember off the top of my head). I hit peak horsepower around 6200 - 6300 RPMs, but I start getting into my power band at around 5500 RPMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04GTOLS1 View Post
    Damn Lank, You have had me scratching my head for several seconds... lol. I have a GTO with the stock 3.46 gears in the rear and im a M6. Im like... how the hell is his sweet spot at 70mph in second?????? Then i finally realized... You must have an automatic?
    seriously?

    c'mon man, it's a z06 for crying out loud. they ONLY come with a 6spd.

    1st gear winds out to about 62mph in those cars. whenever you pull all the way to 7100rpms you can get a few extra mph's out of each gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post
    seriously?

    c'mon man, it's a z06 for crying out loud. they ONLY come with a 6spd.

    1st gear winds out to about 62mph in those cars. whenever you pull all the way to 7100rpms you can get a few extra mph's out of each gear.
    Plus the bigger wheels. When I was looking at a gear calculator, it showed as much as 3mph difference in ONE GEAR when going from a 325 to a 345.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss View Post
    No, I have a 6 speed. I wish I could find that good gear calculator that showed each speed at every RPM in each gear, but I couldn't find it through a quick Google search.

    I've got stock 3.42's, 7100 RPM red line, and 345/30/19 tires. My car goes to about 93mph in 2nd gear, and hits either 5000 or 5500 RPM's at 70mph (can't remember off the top of my head). I hit peak horsepower around 6200 - 6300 RPMs, but I start getting into my power band at around 5500 RPMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04GTOLS1 View Post
    Damn Lank, You have had me scratching my head for several seconds... lol. I have a GTO with the stock 3.46 gears in the rear and im a M6. Im like... how the hell is his sweet spot at 70mph in second?????? Then i finally realized... You must have an automatic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss View Post
    Plus the bigger wheels. When I was looking at a gear calculator, it showed as much as 3mph difference in ONE GEAR when going from a 325 to a 345.
    the 325 & 345 shouldn't affect mph unless one of the sidewalls are larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post
    the 325 & 345 shouldn't affect mph unless one of the sidewalls are larger.
    They are a noticeably higher sidewall, even though they're both a 30 series. But if you plug in the numbers, just changing to a 345 will change the speed in each gear.

    In fact, Rob and I were laughing the other night because I ride people's asses all the time when I'm out, I even yelled at one guy for doing 5+ mph UNDER the speed limit in the left lane, then it hit me that my speedo might be off because of the tires lol

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    I understand it's a Z06.... Why do you think i kept racking my brain to figure out whats going on? lol. Ok, I didn't contribute the extra 1000 rpms you have. and the tires do make a difference. I read somewhere that the GTO, Z06 and the CTS-V have the same gear ratios in the tranny. I dont know if they were talking about the early C5's or the C6's though. My car goes to 68mph in 2nd gear at 6100 redline. So your car slightly higher gear(lower number) and taller tire is helping you alittle bit. I want a Z06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol3n View Post
    the 325 & 345 shouldn't affect mph unless one of the sidewalls are larger.
    Just so you know the "series" or tire height changes as a tire get wider. A 345/30 is not the same as a 325/30. I believe the way it goes the 30 is a percentage of the width of the tire. So sidewall height is 30% of tread width. Or something like that. That may be wrong(percentages part) but the principle of how the two change together is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackedInATL View Post
    A 345/30 is not the same as a 325/30. I believe the way it goes the 30 is a percentage of the width of the tire. So sidewall height is 30% of tread width.
    that is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackedInATL View Post
    Just so you know the "series" or tire height changes as a tire get wider. A 345/30 is not the same as a 325/30. I believe the way it goes the 30 is a percentage of the width of the tire. So sidewall height is 30% of tread width. Or something like that. That may be wrong(percentages part) but the principle of how the two change together is accurate.
    Learn (or re-learn) something everyday!

    I swear to God I've got 3/4" more sidewall on these 345s, they made a pretty big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss View Post
    Learn (or re-learn) something everyday!

    I swear to God I've got 3/4" more sidewall on these 345s, they made a pretty big difference.
    you have less than 1/4" extra of sidewall from a 325/30 to a 345/30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Goat View Post
    you have less than 1/4" extra of sidewall from a 325/30 to a 345/30
    sometimes the little shit helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Goat View Post
    you have less than 1/4" extra of sidewall from a 325/30 to a 345/30
    Not to split hairs, but I went from Goodyears to Michelins, and often times sizes will vary from manufactuer to manufactuer. It may just be the shape of the tires as well. The Goodyear was very "squared" and neat looking, whereas the Michelin is much more rounded the way the tread meets the sidewall. The tires look stretched on a Viper wheel, but then all smashed up on mine. I never measured both sidewalls, but it is a VERY noticeable difference in tire size, even looking at it from a distance.

    When I swapped out the front tires, I went with the exact same size, just Michelin as opposed to Goodyear, and the sidewalls are taller on the fronts too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    YES! That is the exact one I was looking for, thanks!

    Damn, even my gears are different from the C6 Z51 3.42.

    Here's my graph:

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