Callout: SRT4s, All your boost are belong to us your pull is none

[112480]

Ya their were bottle issues and stuff just not acting right... it was really weird... shit they'd never had problems with before... so they didn't want to risk it. Trust me though, that shit will bother him and he wont stop till he fixes it, maybe next weekend shit can be re done.

Thats what happens when u ONLY street tune a car instead of DYNO tuning it............................... Moseley

[David88vert]

Thats what happens when u ONLY street tune a car instead of DYNO tuning it............................... Moseley

Incorrect statement. Tuning is tuning - whether you are on a dyno or street. The dyno is there to safely simulate street/track conditions. You can make the same tuning mistakes on either the real road or the rolling road.

[SmackedInATL]

Incorrect statement. Tuning is tuning - whether you are on a dyno or street. The dyno is there to safely simulate street/track conditions. You can make the same tuning mistakes on either the real road or the rolling road.

Yep, I datalog my car with AF on the street and get my tune revised all the time.

[David88vert]

Yep, I datalog my car with AF on the street and get my tune revised all the time.

I tune cars all the time on the street and the dyno - need to tune 2 single turbo Supras this weekend if I can get the time. Tuning on the dyno is just much safer. On my own car, I datalog my tune on the street all the time.

[Moseley]

Thats what happens when u ONLY street tune a car instead of DYNO tuning it............................... Moseley

LOL, I just tried to give people a heads up about some sketchy work being done by some "Honda gurus" in this area... and since you apparently have your head up those people's asses now all you do is hate hate hate...

IIRC didn't those same "Honda gurus" build and tune the first K24 in the ATL area, and it blew up shortly afterwards? Are these people building your car and that is why you're pissed?

I also told you before only an idiot would street tune from scratch. You dyno tune first, then fine tune on the street.

[David88vert]

I also told you before only an idiot would street tune from scratch. You dyno tune first, then fine tune on the street.

Wrong again. Most knowledgeable tuners do their startup, idle, and low load and partial throttle tuning before they make the car owner put it on the dyno at $150/hr.

Many well-known tuners offer both options of tuning on the dyno or street. Almost all of them did before the Mustang and Dyno Dynamics load-bearing dyno gained popularity. Dynojet 248s (the most popular dyno) are inertia dynos, so partial throttle tuning, and fine tuning are usually done on the street when using them.

[SmackedInATL]

Wrong again. Most knowledgeable tuners do their startup, idle, and low load and partial throttle tuning before they make the car owner put it on the dyno at $150/hr.

Many well-known tuners offer both options of tuning on the dyno or street. Almost all of them did before the Mustang and Dyno Dynamics load-bearing dyno gained popularity. Dynojet 248s (the most popular dyno) are inertia dynos, so partial throttle tuning, and fine tuning are usually done on the street when using them.

Yes David is correct. When I had the tuner in my sig set me up a tune, I had to do idle data logs, "step test" (driving in 2nd gear from 1500-4000RPM and holding 30 sec at each 500RPM interval) data logs, then got it revised for a WOT pull. I'm taking it down to his dyno in a week or two for fine tuning. It has 20* timing right now, but will most likely bump it to 22-23 degrees...

[just a honda]

so when u taking the k 20 spraying hatch to the track

[112480]

LOL, I just tried to give people a heads up about some sketchy work being done by some "Honda gurus" in this area... and since you apparently have your head up those people's asses now all you do is hate hate hate...

IIRC didn't those same "Honda gurus" build and tune the first K24 in the ATL area, and it blew up shortly afterwards? Are these people building your car and that is why you're pissed?

I also told you before only an idiot would street tune from scratch. You dyno tune first, then fine tune on the street.

Um first off i was just fucking with you thats y i told ur little disciple"evan" he's lame as fuck cause first i wasnt talking to him and second just messing with you from Mike first header post.

And NO YOU DID NOT TELL ME DYNO TUNE FIRST THEN STREET TUNE!! You were talking to someone else. You SPECIFICALLY told me that you ONLY street tune and its the best way to tune AND you told me to bring my "dyno queen" down to race your buddy "KIZDAWAY". and i said of course!

I wonder though before mike made another header thread did you read the list of mods i will have?? I seriously doubt it, but i'll will most certainly be glad to come down to pick on your friend

[112480]

Oh ah P.S, know that i have a 92 VX hatch and will have way over 400whp on the bottle and over 250whp all-motor..................... and know i wont have all this power and have a shity suspension and tire set-up. But hey it doesnt matter right cause my "dyno queen" will NEVER beat your buddy's SUPERIOR Street Tuned K car.

[Vteckidd]

LOL, I just tried to give people a heads up about some sketchy work being done by some "Honda gurus" in this area... and since you apparently have your head up those people's asses now all you do is hate hate hate...

IIRC didn't those same "Honda gurus" build and tune the first K24 in the ATL area, and it blew up shortly afterwards? Are these people building your car and that is why you're pissed?

I also told you before only an idiot would street tune from scratch. You dyno tune first, then fine tune on the street.

Are you that obsessed with trying to gloat about yourself?

I've done more header tests for more companies than I can count. Nothing is sketchy about what I did you two just are mad about a $1000 header losing to mine. You're also too scared to come back and take me up on my offer to redo the test again in front of you again.

You and Evan have ZERO real world experience and knowledge. You read the internet and gossip to each other and make stuff up to defend your argument. I've heard the stuff you said about me and it's laughable. I hope I see both you tonight.

As far as mainstream you're referring to jays car. His motor was built by inline pro iirc. He purchased skunk2 stage 3 cams from Tony shagday(who I know very well).

Mainstream degreed and installed the camshafts. Then, after 3 MONTHS the skunk2 camshaft BrOKE. Everyone knows the problems with skunk2 cams in k series they are well documented. It was a part failure that had nothiv to do with mainstream or their installation. But I'm sure you'll say the oil temps and ect wasn't logged so it's somehow scottys fault lol

I'm respected because of what I have done in the community, what I've built, and who I have worked with/for. I didn't get to where I'm at by being shady or sketchy.

So before you spread rumors and lies either put up or shut up.

[Moseley]

You and Evan have ZERO real world experience and knowledge.

Dude you have no idea... back in '99 my 84 civic was running 14.2 and was one of the fastest NA hondas around. I've been messing with this shit long enough. I'd never doubt your experience with B series or your rep. I just think your "dyno comparison" for the K swap header was poorly executed. btw the SSR header you compared to isn't even a "stock" K20 swap header for an EG. it was a custom fab for K24 + stage2 cams. Not ideal for that setup.

But to keep on topic... since you came in here you should just run the "stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp" and see what's up.