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    I was out and about earlier today, looking for things to do with my spare time and came across a mixed martial arts training place within a five mile bike ride from my place. There was a really cool place that gave what appeared to be pretty damned good guitar and music lessons in the same complex, but the music lessons are more than twice as much, and half as frequent, and I've done alright teaching myself guitar without them so far I think.

    I'm not exactly an aggressive person, nor would I consider myself the fighting type, but since I need to be working out, and getting exercise instead of drinking my face off at the computer with my guitar (see my Anyone Been to AA thread), I'm going to sign up for muay thai, and ju jitsu training classes sometime tomorrow. I was wondering if anyone had done this before, or maybe had a rough idea of what to expect. I've never done any sort of martial arts before, and I have absolutely no idea what I'm getting myself into. But it seems like good healthy fun, and I've always wanted to learn how to properly defend myself in a potentially violent situation. I'm 100% positive I'm going to get tossed around and probably hurt if I have to do any sparring, but I'm assuming it will be a learning process none the less, and I'll be sure to post pics of my first black eye and/or nose bleed for you all to get a good laugh.

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    Yes, I've been doing it for awhile now. About 4yrs. Go slow, watch carefully, and check your ego at the door. There's a lot to learn, and it'll seem like a whole lot to take in, but it really is an endless process. Also, the type of shape you get in by lifting weights, running, etc, will NOT prepare you for the type of stamina, and soreness you'll feel. You'll be using muscles that you've probably never used before, so until you get used to it, you'll probably feel pretty beat up. On a final note, don't be discouraged if you get tapped a bunch, and are getting the worse of the stand up exchanges (even if the person is MUCH smaller). Everyone starts off as a beginner, so just take it in stride. Just like anything, if you stick to it, you'll get better. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
    Yes, I've been doing it for awhile now. About 4yrs. Go slow, watch carefully, and check your ego at the door. There's a lot to learn, and it'll seem like a whole lot to take in, but it really is an endless process. Also, the type of shape you get in by lifting weights, running, etc, will NOT prepare you for the type of stamina, and soreness you'll feel. You'll be using muscles that you've probably never used before, so until you get used to it, you'll probably feel pretty beat up. On a final note, don't be discouraged if you get tapped a bunch, and are getting the worse of the stand up exchanges (even if the person is MUCH smaller). Everyone starts off as a beginner, so just take it in stride. Just like anything, if you stick to it, you'll get better. Good luck!
    couldn't have said it better myself. good luck man. It's a lot of fun, you'll make great friends with great people. If you want to get really serious about training you should come to Alliance in sandy springs. LA Boxing is an extension of Knuckle UP! so.. it's not very good as far as training. However, have fun!

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    I have no ego when it comes to this, I have zero experience, and am pretty much expecting to get pretty beat up by any and everyone, I have to practice with, although I would appreciate it if they didn't go full bore, and seriously try to hurt me while practicing, especially knowing that I don't have any experience. And I am a little concerned that I might screw up or damage my fretting hand for playing guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenMind
    I have no ego when it comes to this, I have zero experience, and am pretty much expecting to get pretty beat up by any and everyone, I have to practice with, although I would appreciate it if they didn't go full bore, and seriously try to hurt me while practicing, especially knowing that I don't have any experience. And I am a little concerned that I might screw up or damage my fretting hand for playing guitar.
    No one is gonna go all out on you. It doesn't help them, and it sure as fuck doesn't help you. Your willingness to learn is a good attitude to have in the gym though. At any rate, injury is part of the game. If you don't get hurt, you're probably not training hard enough. I broke my left arm for the 3rd time last month, and had my 2nd surgery in 6 months on it. I'm still recovering from it. I'm not saying that you'll do what I did, but injuries DO happen. If you're really that worried about getting hurt, then you might wanna think twice about it. It's a combat sport, so it kinda goes with the territory.

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    Getting hurt isn't so much of a big deal, but lasting damage is a bit of a concern. I'm not planning on entering any cage matches, or engging in any serious fights, I'd just like to see what I can learn from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenMind
    Getting hurt isn't so much of a big deal, but lasting damage is a bit of a concern. I'm not planning on entering any cage matches, or engging in any serious fights, I'd just like to see what I can learn from it.
    Yeah, I understand that. That's what the majority of people do. I was actually training for a fight, but again, that's just me, and not everyone is there for that. At any rate, I've broken fingers, toes, and the radial bone in my left arm, with a dislocated wrist, were the most recent injuries. Lasting damage just depends. There's no way to predict this type of stuff. I'm dealing with lots of lasting damage, because of the amount of times I've broken it, repeated nerve damage, etc, but everyone is different. You've gotta roll/spar with people to get better, so anytime that you're dong that, the risk is there. Just know that getting hurt is part of the game.

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    Are there any places around Alpharetta that are decent like Alliance? I've heard good things about them, but driving down there can be painful than getting hurt lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    Are there any places around Alpharetta that are decent like Alliance? I've heard good things about them, but driving down there can be painful than getting hurt lol.
    There is nothing like alliance in this state. Or in the south east for that matter. Manu the muay thai instructor is 4 time world champion. He also professional boxes.. on the side. lol. Jacare, and one of very very very few men who has received their black belt from Rolls Gracie ( the man who invented BJJ.) If you're in alpharetta it's just a few short exits away.. they have morning classes and evening both that start when traffic has ended . LMK if you wanna come check it out ill put you in contact with the right person

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    There is nothing like alliance in this state. Or in the south east for that matter. Manu the muay thai instructor is 4 time world champion. He also professional boxes.. on the side. lol. Jacare, and one of very very very few men who has received their black belt from Rolls Gracie ( the man who invented BJJ.) If you're in alpharetta it's just a few short exits away.. they have morning classes and evening both that start when traffic has ended . LMK if you wanna come check it out ill put you in contact with the right person
    Yea I've been interested in checking it out, my schedule just sucks though. I'd like to see when their classes are happening. You mean Royce Gracie btw? And is that the same Jacare who was just in the DREAM middleweight tournament?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    Yea I've been interested in checking it out, my schedule just sucks though. I'd like to see when their classes are happening. You mean Royce Gracie btw? And is that the same Jacare who was just in the DREAM middleweight tournament?

    No, i mean Rolls. Royce is his son. Different Jacare. This is Romero "jacare" Cavalcanti. He's one of the founders of alliance and since it's inseption has won most major tournies, over gracies . www.alliancebjj.com for class schedules and shit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    No, i mean Rolls. Royce is his son. Different Jacare. This is Romero "jacare" Cavalcanti. He's one of the founders of alliance and since it's inseption has won most major tournies, over gracies . www.alliancebjj.com for class schedules and shit .
    I think you mean Helio Gracie, I've heard a lot of good things about alliance, and have trained with several people that came from there. Also Unit 2 is another gym that is great if you are looking at good BJJ training.

    Knuckleup is not a part of LA Boxing... the owners of Knuckleup use to be affiliated with LA boxing before breaking off and becoming Velocity kickboxing. Then after they moved and becamse an MMA gym they became Knuckleup. As for you question Ironchef Knuckleup is a good gym despite what anyone tells you. I have been there for 3 years now and have learned a lot from them. In the beggining my focus was BJJ and Muay Thai, but now I've shifted toward Kali. I realized that since I have no interest in competing or even getting a belt really. My training is strictly for health and possible self defense. I guess simple answer is all in your needs for the training. IMO anyone that knows more than I do is a potential teacher. I have learned techniques from several arts all of which are useful in every day fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    Yea I've been interested in checking it out, my schedule just sucks though. I'd like to see when their classes are happening. You mean Royce Gracie btw? And is that the same Jacare who was just in the DREAM middleweight tournament?
    If you wanna go train with the Jacare you're referring to, just jump on a plane and head to San Diego! He trains out there with Diego Sanchez and Saulo Riberio. If you want a solid ground game, it's not a bad place to be! LOL.

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    Conditioning, and cardio are a big reason of why I want to get into it.

    Plus lots of fights end up on the ground, in the event that such a thing were to happen, ju jitsu could come in quite handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenMind
    Conditioning, and cardio are a big reason of why I want to get into it.

    Plus lots of fights end up on the ground, in the event that such a thing were to happen, ju jitsu could come in quite handy.
    I was training for Knuckleup over in Midtown. Like the guy said a few posts up, don't get discouraged! Conditioning/cardio is ROUGH. It makes you really admire mma on tv when these guys gotta go for five 5 minute rounds. After your first "roll" session, you'll see what I mean.

    Oh, and a bit of advice. Wash your gui! You don't want to be that guy in class that nobody wants to fight because his gui smells like ball sack. Yes, is gonna fade... but who cares. Keep it clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One_Bad_SHO
    I was training for Knuckleup over in Midtown. Like the guy said a few posts up, don't get discouraged! Conditioning/cardio is ROUGH. It makes you really admire mma on tv when these guys gotta go for five 5 minute rounds. After your first "roll" session, you'll see what I mean.

    Oh, and a bit of advice. Wash your gui! You don't want to be that guy in class that nobody wants to fight because his gui smells like ball sack. Yes, is gonna fade... but who cares. Keep it clean.
    if you buy a high quality gi.. you should only need to wash it about once a week, if that, as long as you hang it to dry out.

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    Personally I'm a dirty fighter...thus why I like my Kali instructor. I sometimes use illegal moves when training BJJ because it's things I was taught in Kali. Ooops! lol
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    Muay Thai.. Manu.. period.. He's world champion for a reason.. and one of the only people ever to beat the thai's in lumpinee stadium.. However, if money is tight, and you dont plan on competing, then yes, again, knuckle up is for you.

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    lol I hear the same rap from most of the alliance guys.
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    JUst let me set this straight, im not dissing the gym. They just don't put out top class fighters. They have some good fighters who train/teach there, however, none of them world class status. Every instructor at the Alliance gym IS WORLD class, and PROVEN to produce champion after champion. On a side note, soul, after rolls death jacare did train with helio.

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    I think you both should fight it out. This would please me.
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    I'm content not ever wanting to compete. I've wanted to train since I was a young lad, but was too broke growing up to do so. After getting out of the military I decided to join in 2006. I have a few injuries from the army that although I probably could compete I would rather be able to walk for the rest of my life.
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