Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
If you ask junior who used to train him he'll tell you.. Manu.. People don't go to knuckle up to LEARN how to fight. The people you mentioned already fought, and had tons of previous training from others. They came to knuckle up for money, i know this for fact. If you ask them, they will tell you. Unless they're being dishonest.
This is not what you were arguing. You were arguing about the level of instruction, and with many pro fighters who made it to the UFC/WEC, the level of instruction has definitely been on par with many places. Many fighters in this state train with one another. I've trained with Jeff Bedard, who brought Sean Sherk down with him, and Paul Creighton, who brought Matt Serra in. That's what fighters do, it's not uncommon. It's not like the people I mentioned owe their entire BJJ and MT games to Alliance. Alliance is a top notch place, but what you're suggesting is simply not true.